Detroit this week...Anyone ??

UR2SLOW1 · 01-13-2008, 07:28 PM

Is there anyone who's getting into the Detroit show this week for industry preview days? I'm going Sat, the first day of the public show and I'm gonna have to break a window if the 135 isn't unlocked. Fingers crossed.

Ryephile · 01-13-2008, 07:32 PM

I'll be there for Industry Preview. I'll post pictures ASAP!

RenJ · 01-15-2008, 02:53 AM

I'll be there on Thursday w/ camera in hand! What day will you be there Ryephile?

stelthy · 01-15-2008, 07:47 AM

I will also be there on Wednesday... Any requests for pictures?

mgoblue135 · 01-15-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stelthy

I will also be there on Wednesday... Any requests for pictures?

Just take lots and lots and lots!!! :biggrin:

Personally, I would like to see pictures of a AW 135, but any will do

UR2SLOW1 · 01-15-2008, 08:44 AM

Please let us know if the 1 series is unlocked as I'm dying to sit in it. Thanks

AndyM · 01-15-2008, 09:14 AM

Please check for the oil cooler.

Ryephile · 01-16-2008, 03:15 PM

I'll be there Thursday all day, so I might not be able to post pictures until Thursday night at earliest.

bimmerfile · 01-16-2008, 05:10 PM

Please take a few pics of the trunk (inside) of the 1er Cabrio with it's top down..
TIA...

investor27 · 01-17-2008, 04:43 AM

Please check fo the oil cooler on both the auto and manual (i.e., take pictures of the front passenger side air intake).

Ryephile · 01-17-2008, 04:30 PM

There was NO oil cooler equipped on the 135i coupe on the floor. Everyone will have to forgive me as my schedule was busy, but I didn't get a chance to check out the convertibles or the 128i. Nevertheless, here are my snapshots of the 135i in Sedona Red.

This one had Black leather with gray poplar wood and all three packages. The sport seats were much nicer and much more supportive than I expected. The adjustable side bolsters ROCK. I was very disappointed with some of the ergonomics of the car, namely the steering wheel covering the top half of the gauges when the seating and wheel are adjusted correctly, the window switches are too far aft to comfortably operate, and there is no useful ingress/egress handle on the door panel. The only door handle is the "hoop" near the front of the door, which lacks leverage to control the very strong detents. This car will be the instigator of many door dings wherever it parks, I will put money on it. The rear seats are tighter than the new MINI Clubman, not joking. Ingress and egress from the rear seats of the 1 is a disaster. Please don't plan on using the rear seats for people in your 1 series coupe. Also regarding the steering wheel covering the gauges, I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam, which is pretty normal. I can only guess BMW is designing these cars for people that are 6'5" with a 40"+ inseam, the only way to see the gauges from my view is to put the steering wheel "way up there" close to eye level it seems, which is annoying.

The car looks tight and compact in the flesh. I only comes into its own once people stop crowding around it and all the doors are shut. The surface treatment is very nicely executed; the exterior style is much better than in pictures.

mikeo · 01-17-2008, 05:10 PM

No oil cooler? Aah damn it, damn it, damn it! There goes another $1000.

Ryephile · 01-17-2008, 05:18 PM

Also of note, the EHPS reservoir has a new bottle, it's now cheaper looking but also will probably not leak like the old design.

mikeo: I would bet you'll be able to raise hell with BMW service and request your engine have the same oil cooler other markets are getting IF your car doesn't come with one. I wouldn't despair the money; after sitting in the sport seats, they alone are worth the price of the sport pack!

mikeo · 01-17-2008, 06:10 PM

Actually, I believe my Service Manager, a very sympathetic guy, will install one under warranty provided BMWNA has a plan for the 135i similar to what they do for 335i owners. Only time will tell.

bob1th · 01-18-2008, 12:43 AM

I was there too... The vert was so beautiful. I am completely sold

BMWeber · 01-18-2008, 08:39 AM

I have a bad feeling were not getting hydraulic steering from those pics.

1st pic euro 135i with hydraulic
2nd pic 130i hatchback with electric
3rd pic US spec 135i

ChrisK · 01-18-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeo

No oil cooler? Aah damn it, damn it, damn it! There goes another $1000.

No kidding! That car was a 135i with the sport pkg. I am hoping the oil cooler is in a different spot.

mikeo · 01-18-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskurn

No kidding! That car was a 135i with the sport pkg. I am hoping the oil cooler is in a different spot.

Right, Chris. The oil coolers are in a different spot alright: back at the assembly line going into all the non-US 135i cars.

Ryephile · 01-18-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWeber

I have a bad feeling were not getting hydraulic steering from those pics.

1st pic euro 135i with hydraulic
2nd pic 130i hatchback with electric
3rd pic US spec 135i

That canister in the driver side front engine bay is definitely a power steering hydraulic fluid resevoir. It even says "CHF 11S fluid only". I opened it up and there was indeed CHF 11S in there, dipstick and all. Why would BMW be using hydraulic fluid in the electric steering? My R56 with electric steering had no such hydraulic fluid of course.

That said, it is interesting how that 2nd pic of the 130i hatch with the same power steering hydraulic resevoir.

dna550 · 01-18-2008, 09:28 PM

Covertible Interior

TunedM2C · 01-18-2008, 09:51 PM

Not to beat a dead horse but you did look for the second cooler behind the passenger side bumper correct?

Maybe because this is a road show ho, the oil cooler didn't make the trip and could still show up on production cars??

Ryephile · 01-18-2008, 10:08 PM

Yes, I looked very closely for the oil cooler in the front bumper. Definitely not there. Like you said, it is an auto show car though.

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Ryephile Not a Newbie 1 Rep 173 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	There was NO oil cooler equipped on the 135i coupe on the floor. Everyone will have to forgive me as my schedule was busy, but I didn't get a chance to check out the convertibles or the 128i. Nevertheless, here are my snapshots of the 135i in Sedona Red. This one had Black leather with gray poplar wood and all three packages. The sport seats were much nicer and much more supportive than I expected. The adjustable side bolsters ROCK. I was very disappointed with some of the ergonomics of the car, namely the steering wheel covering the top half of the gauges when the seating and wheel are adjusted correctly, the window switches are too far aft to comfortably operate, and there is no useful ingress/egress handle on the door panel. The only door handle is the "hoop" near the front of the door, which lacks leverage to control the very strong detents. This car will be the instigator of many door dings wherever it parks, I will put money on it. The rear seats are tighter than the new MINI Clubman, not joking. Ingress and egress from the rear seats of the 1 is a disaster. Please don't plan on using the rear seats for people in your 1 series coupe. Also regarding the steering wheel covering the gauges, I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam, which is pretty normal. I can only guess BMW is designing these cars for people that are 6'5" with a 40"+ inseam, the only way to see the gauges from my view is to put the steering wheel "way up there" close to eye level it seems, which is annoying. The car looks tight and compact in the flesh. I only comes into its own once people stop crowding around it and all the doors are shut. The surface treatment is very nicely executed; the exterior style is much better than in pictures. Attached Images __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ryephile Not a Newbie 1 Rep 173 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	Also of note, the EHPS reservoir has a new bottle, it's now cheaper looking but also will probably not leak like the old design. *mikeo*: I would bet you'll be able to raise hell with BMW service and request your engine have the same oil cooler other markets are getting IF your car doesn't come with one. I wouldn't despair the money; after sitting in the sport seats, they alone are worth the price of the sport pack! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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TunedM2C Brigadier General 829 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: 2016 LBB M2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (2)	Not to beat a dead horse but you did look for the second cooler behind the passenger side bumper correct? Maybe because this is a road show ho, the oil cooler didn't make the trip and could still show up on production cars??
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Ryephile Not a Newbie 1 Rep 173 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	Yes, I looked very closely for the oil cooler in the front bumper. Definitely not there. Like you said, it is an auto show car though. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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