HELP: Need pics of you battery...

[TUN3D]

Hey guys, hope you can help me out. I need someone who can take a bunch of pics of their battery. I'm looking for a hi-res overhead shot so I can see how the cables/wires are routed.

I'm doing a conversion and, while there is a DIY, I really want to get as close to OEM as possible. I have all the parts I need, but would like to compare for accuracy.

[muddtt]

http://174.142.61.69/g/1/f3974bf1-71...a3486acff1.jpg

http://174.142.61.69/g/1/fc6f0631-7f...6e0135a449.jpg

http://174.142.61.69/g/1/020c0007-ad...e43efa1653.jpg

[TUN3D]

muddtt > Thanks. I'm looking for 1M batteries though. These are normal 135/128 batteries.

[acediac]

Just happened to have 2 pics of the battery I was taking so I could record the part number.

BTW, anyone know where that black clip in the middle is supposed to go? It's just sitting unplugged on mine.

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by acediac

... anyone know where that black clip in the middle is supposed to go? It's just sitting unplugged on mine.

It's there and disconnected in all NA cars. It would connect to a battery disconnect switch and the other end is located underneath the backseat, from there it connects to another lead that connects to a magnetic pen switch at the windshield. All these items are to enable safe sea transport and besides that remaining wire are removed from the car at PDI

[acediac]

Originally Posted by eeghie

It's there and disconnected in all NA cars. It would connect to a battery disconnect switch and the other end is located underneath the backseat, from there it connects to another lead that connects to a magnetic pen switch at the windshield. All these items are to enable safe sea transport and besides that remaining wire are removed from the car at PDI

Wow Eeghie you are a font of knowledge! Thanks, good to know!

[TUN3D]

acediac > Thanks man. Much appreciated!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by acediac

BTW, anyone know where that black clip in the middle is supposed to go? It's just sitting unplugged on mine.

Originally Posted by eeghie

It's there and disconnected in all NA cars. It would connect to a battery disconnect switch and the other end is located underneath the backseat, from there it connects to another lead that connects to a magnetic pen switch at the windshield. All these items are to enable safe sea transport and besides that remaining wire are removed from the car at PDI

See also: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651897

[eeghie]

My negative terminal (disconnected in this picture, pls ignore the temporary small wires) looks different. Also included the label attached to the negative battery lead. It connects to the chassis on the right side on the trunk floor. Looked at your build thread, kudoos on your attention to OEM details and extensive write-ups.



Product label Battery Negative Cable.pdf

[acediac]

Originally Posted by eeghie

My negative terminal (disconnected in this picture, pls ignore the temporary small wires) looks different. Also included the label attached to the negative battery lead. It connects to the chassis on the right side on the trunk floor. Looked at your build thread, kudoos on your attention to OEM details and extensive write-ups.

Hey Eeghie, was your car subject to the battery terminal recall? Apparently some positive terminals would heat up and corrode/melt. Do you know what changed with the new part design?

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by acediac

Hey Eeghie, was your car subject to the battery terminal recall? Apparently some positive terminals would heat up and corrode/melt. Do you know what changed with the new part design?

@Artemis is a forum gem for maintaining the 1M issues knowledgebase: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=760815
Look under issue #14. This concerns the thick red cable on the bottom of my trunk picture, however the problem is at the other end where it connects to the fusebox above the passenger footwell. The last ~foot/30cm are cut off and an equal length cable with better connection (uses additional screw) to the fusebox is re-attached.

Get this done while the campaign is running. My local dealer states that BMW dealers will honour these kinds of replacements for life, but my experience with Volvo was that the dealer that sold me the car did not check on outstanding rework and I ended up having to pay myself because the rework campaign ended already years ago and the replacement parts had become very difficult to source.

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by eeghie

@Artemis is a forum gem for maintaining the 1M issues knowledgebase: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=760815
Look under issue #14. This concerns the thick red cable on the bottom of my trunk picture, however the problem is at the other end where it connects to the fusebox above the passenger footwell. The last ~foot/30cm are cut off and an equal length cable with better connection (uses additional screw) to the fusebox is re-attached.

Get this done while the campaign is running. My local dealer states that BMW dealers will honour these kinds of replacements for life, but my experience with Volvo was that the dealer that sold me the car did not check on outstanding rework and I ended up having to pay myself because the rework campaign ended already years ago and the replacement parts had become very difficult to source.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that this is currently labeled as a NA - south africa (!?) issue only. I have not looked in whether the cable is different between NA and other 1M regional versions, alternatively it could be a USA/NA-only issue because in the US the thresholds for problem acknowledgement are different (due to quite strict governance of the www.nhtsa.gov). As I recall, except SA, non of the EU or other region cars have had this replacement.

[acediac]

Originally Posted by eeghie

Sorry, I forgot to mention that this is currently labeled as a NA - south africa (!?) issue only. I have not looked in whether the cable is different between NA and other 1M regional versions, alternatively it could be a USA/NA-only issue because in the US the thresholds for problem acknowledgement are different (due to quite strict governance of the www.nhtsa.gov). As I recall, except SA, non of the EU or other region cars have had this replacement.

Artemis is really great for us 1M owners!

I found a similar recall in Australia http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/in...itemId/1045818

The plug-in contact of the battery-positive cable on the front power distributor (fitted behind the glove compartment) may be damaged by vehicle vibrations. Damage to the plug-in contact may impair the power supply to the vehicle.

But they are only recalling cars between 3/1/07 and 2/28/11... that would seem to preclude the 1M. I guess I should give them a call anyway, but I bet the answer is "no".

[eeghie]

wrt battery recall cable: let's give TUN3D his thread back and continue with our findings in the dedicated thread on this topic here

[TUN3D]

eeghie > No problem. I don't mind at all. You're discussion here has been insightful. That said, funny that you guys mentioned the disparity between the negative cables. I've been digging around trying to understand why it's different.

I'm piecing together the parts needed for the 1M trunk conversion. I want to do this properly and don't want to hack/extend any of the cables.

61127845120 > $22.37 (Brown Cable)
61127618679 > $156.70 (Black Cable)

The price difference is significant. Which one is the proper cable though? Note: Issue #14 on the Artemis thread is in reference to the positive cable.

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by TUN3D

eeghie > No problem. I don't mind at all. You're discussion here has been insightful. That said, funny that you guys mentioned the disparity between the negative cables. I've been digging around trying to understand why it's different.

I'm piecing together the parts needed for the 1M trunk conversion. I want to do this properly and don't want to hack/extend any of the cables.

61127845120 > $22.37 (Brown Cable)
61127618679 > $156.70 (Black Cable)

The price difference is significant. Which one is the proper cable though? ...

Only thing I can add is that the brown cable in my picture came stock/OEM in my new US spec 1M (Build '11/Sept). Perhaps the black one is for AUS/other countries?

Attached is a picture of how the other end connects to the chassis underneath the trunk liner.

[Dackelone]

@eeghie

Originally Posted by TUN3D

....I'm piecing together the parts needed for the 1M trunk conversion. I want to do this properly and don't want to hack/extend any of the cables.

61127845120 > $22.37 (Brown Cable)
61127618679 > $156.70 (Black Cable)

The price difference is significant. Which one is the proper cable though? Note: Issue #14 on the Artemis thread is in reference to the positive cable.

Correct answer(looks) like BOTH are correct! No, really.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...61&fg=30&hl=41

RealOEM.com is showing the brown cable is for car with: For vehicles with
Brake Energy Regeneration
or
Navigation system Professional
or
Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN


Otherwise, the black IBS cable is spec'd.

IBS = Negative terminal with Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) grounding.

[TUN3D]

eeghie > You're the man sir!!! Thanks for that pic. If that's the case then no need to splurge on the more expensive cable. Brown it is...

Dackelone > Thanks man! I was wondering when u were gonna show up -- lol. On a different note, I'm having a hard time finding the PPK2 horn relocation brackets/bolts, etc. Would you be willing to help me out? I have images of the parts -- just no numbers.

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In reference to the battery, maybe you guys can help me clear up one more thing. The foam piece where the tool-kit goes...



...I've looked up and down on realoem -- can't find it. Do you guys know the name of this piece or have a part number?

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by TUN3D

...

In reference to the battery, maybe you guys can help me clear up one more thing. The foam piece where the tool-kit goes...

...I've looked up and down on realoem -- can't find it. Do you guys know the name of this piece or have a part number?

Think it's #21 on this page:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...35&hg=51&fg=80

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by TUN3D

Dackelone > Thanks man! I was wondering when u were gonna show up -- lol. On a different note, I'm having a hard time finding the PPK2 horn relocation brackets/bolts, etc. Would you be willing to help me out? I have images of the parts -- just no numbers.

Sorry buddy, I couldn't find the horn bracket part number either. I did find a picture of the bracket



Here is the BMW install pdf...
power_kit_installation_instr.pdf

[eeghie]

Dackels' template post:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

... Correct answer ...

[TUN3D]

eeghie > LMAO! I looked everywhere but that diagram.

Dackelone > That's the pic for the relay. I was referring to the actual horn brackets/mounts.