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FYI. You cannot isolate how a car handles/drives from 0-60 or 1/4 times. It may not be the priority but it's still very relevant to overall performance/handling of the car. Noone expects to see faster runs than a n54 or n55, just some stats dude |
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When I changed the tires from awful run-flats to Michelin Pilot SuperSports(same tires used on the Ferrari 599 and a pile of other super cars), and swapped the suspension over to the M3 setup with TCK DAs, the car was massively more competent than the engine. As such, power levels had to be raised to match. None of this was done for competition purposes or to have a "better" car than someone else. My personal driving enjoyment was/is the only focus. I participate on the forum to share technical know-how and my approach to car modifications. It's really that simple. ESS will be faster. If it's not, they have a serious problem. Spot on.
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Not sure about 128's but my 328i coupe comes with the same suspension as the 335i base, thus suspension is up to the task. Regardless of the mods, every car has limits and it's wise to test them in the right circumstances. FYI. I don't care if you run or not the 1/4 mile, it would be cool though to see your mods and the results. To each their own |
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Do you have PSS tires? Have you driven a car with PSS tires? You've undoubtedly seen posts where others report tire damage from track use of PSS tires. I do not know what to make of those reports but I intend to use mine in an autocross when my schedule allows and expect them to perform well. Maybe they won't. But when you see them on cars well into six figures, making the sort of comments you made above just seems ignorant. They are really nice tires. Maybe not for track use but most of us rarely get a chance to drive on a track.
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The tires are perfect for hard steet use, which is good as that is exactly what they are subjected to. Yes.
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There's been delay in shipping for my car to Nc from Germany. But once it gets here I'll take her to the track for giggles with the crew and see what she runs. I have sticky tires, and disa too so we should see.
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That said here's an AutoX video in my wife's car with square 235/40/18 PSS, stock sports suspension. I wasn't used to the car still propelling forward after braking due to the automatic transmission, which caused me to overshoot corner entry all day. I guess I'm used to the stronger force of deceleration from the engine braking in my E36. Other than that, the tires were soooooo much better than the stock tire sized Hankook V12s that were on their before. [u2b]http://youtu.be/0ltvtv4wl1Q[/u2b] Meh, here's the link: link |
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The only autocross I've run since buying my bimmer is at the BMW performance center. When we are there, there is at least one instructor from the school there. They give "fun rides" in M cars, M3s, M5s or M6s. Usually there are a couple instructors using M3s and M5s (so they have 4 doors for passengers). What sort of tires do you think they use? They are stock tires so it would be PSS. The instructors drive the course with 3 passengers on-board about as quickly (within 5 seconds) as the fastest cars in the autocross. Their tires wear out quickly but don't loose chunks.
I'm not saying that the incidents reported didn't happen. But I am saying that at least on this track, it is possible to drive very quickly on PSS tires. I won't be as fast but I still plan to try mine.
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