Gruppe M intake

Menace · 06-30-2008, 10:59 PM

Did a search with no results, does anyone know if this intake http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BMI1&Product_C ode=GM-BE87-CAI&Category_Code=cai
can be used with a 135?

FibreOptix · 06-30-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Menace

Did a search with no results, does anyone know if this intake http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BMI1&Product_C ode=GM-BE87-CAI&Category_Code=cai
can be used with a 135?

No, i't cannot. I rescently spoke with GRUPPEM and they have a N54 135i version being developed as we speak. i have one on my 335i. Incredible intake with the BEST quality carbon fibre you will ever see, but VERY VERY expensive. I paid $2150, but i have it shipped EMS too...

FibreOptix · 06-30-2008, 11:18 PM

pics of 335i w/N54. intake will be very simular to this but smaller...

Menace · 06-30-2008, 11:22 PM

Cant wait til its done. It certainly looks amazing! It also makes me wonder how much gains this will produce considering its price. Have you dynoed?

FibreOptix · 06-30-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Menace

Cant wait til its done. It certainly looks amazing! It also makes me wonder how much gains this will produce considering its price. Have you dynoed?

No i havent, but from what i've read, it isnt much. It's almost an exact replica of the stock unit. It sounds mean when you get on the trottle because of the way the air gets sucked in and the design.

It's a real nice piece, but it your on A BUDGET with your 1, don't buy it, it's not "the best bang for the buck>'

northpole · 07-01-2008, 10:52 PM

complete waste of money.

blackbubblebum · 07-01-2008, 11:03 PM

Well its cf....

FibreOptix · 07-01-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 135M

complete waste of money.

And thats your opinion...

aus · 07-02-2008, 01:10 AM

Gruppe M is ALL bling. A simple BMS or Vishnu intake will do fine and cost a lot less.

FibreOptix · 07-02-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

Gruppe M is ALL bling. A simple BMS or Vishnu intake will do fine and cost a lot less.

And suck in a lot of HOTTT air

Menace · 07-02-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FibreOptix

And suck in a lot of HOTTT air

That being said I'm guessing it'll be a CAI for the 135...If so, since it seems more of an airbox design will it still be vulnerable to hydro locking? How's the experience with yours?

BMW135iCA · 07-02-2008, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FibreOptix

And suck in a lot of HOTTT air

I don't think people like shiv and that guy terry would design a dual intake system if that is all it did.

Chris

itsthechuck · 07-02-2008, 06:13 AM

Wow thats a nice looking intake!

ichiban · 07-02-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FibreOptix

And suck in a lot of HOTTT air

.... the air passes through the cold side of the turbo anyways, so it'll get heated up regardless. Your IC does the cooling. Duh,.

crzy4135i · 07-02-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 135M

complete waste of money.

Not if you're buying it for looks. It looks a hell of a lot better than stock plastic setup.

crzy4135i · 07-02-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Menace

That being said I'm guessing it'll be a CAI for the 135...If so, since it seems more of an airbox design will it still be vulnerable to hydro locking? How's the experience with yours?

It appears to draw air from the same location in front of the radiator as the stock setup. The only way to hydrolock is if you're in water up to the bmw hood emblem.:biggrin:

aus · 07-02-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ichiban

.... the air passes through the cold side of the turbo anyways, so it'll get heated up regardless. Your IC does the cooling. Duh,.

That's whay I'm say'in. So the incoming air is 20 degrees hotter than a true CAI. It still gets compressed and runs up against a turbo that's hundreds of degrees hotter. It's a different story for a NA car.

JohnnyTT · 07-02-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crzy4135i

It appears to draw air from the same location in front of the radiator as the stock setup. The only way to hydrolock is if you're in water up to the bmw hood emblem.:biggrin:

You might have to be careful when washing it... not to directly shoot water into the front vents... it might spray up into the intake.

Seems like it would be hard to do.... but still possible.

spdrcr · 07-02-2008, 04:08 PM

Just found these pics from the Gruppe M website:

This looks like the only solution for those of us looking for a cold air intake without having an exposed pod filter. Don't get be wrong, I'm all for sound but it has to be the right type of sound. All the vids of these exposed pod filter setups make the car sound like a cheap jap turbo car - I've already been there and done that...

It'll be interesting to see what Riss Racing come up with - hopefully they put something together that will give some good gains without the ricer sounds.

Kris · 07-02-2008, 04:57 PM

I'm sure anyone handy with CF could make what Gruppe M for half the cost... $2000 is outrageous for something that provides no gains!

Brandon26pdx · 07-07-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 135M

complete waste of money.

...which pretty much describes all of the aftermarket intakes for the N54. This one at least appears to be designed well, pricetag aside.

HPADDICT · 07-07-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

I'm sure anyone handy with CF could make what Gruppe M for half the cost... $2000 is outrageous for something that provides no gains!

QFT!

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Menace Hello my name is Wency 3 Rep 71 Posts Drives: E82-E46-S13 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	Gruppe M intake Did a search with no results, does anyone know if this intake http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BMI1&Product_C ode=GM-BE87-CAI&Category_Code=cai can be used with a 135? __________________
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Menace Hello my name is Wency 3 Rep 71 Posts Drives: E82-E46-S13 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	Cant wait til its done. It certainly looks amazing! It also makes me wonder how much gains this will produce considering its price. Have you dynoed? __________________
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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Gruppe M is ALL bling. A simple BMS or Vishnu intake will do fine and cost a lot less.
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spdrcr First Lieutenant 13 Rep 356 Posts Drives: Lotus Elise Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Just found these pics from the Gruppe M website: This looks like the only solution for those of us looking for a cold air intake without having an exposed pod filter. Don't get be wrong, I'm all for sound but it has to be the right type of sound. All the vids of these exposed pod filter setups make the car sound like a cheap jap turbo car - I've already been there and done that... It'll be interesting to see what Riss Racing come up with - hopefully they put something together that will give some good gains without the ricer sounds.
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Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	I'm sure anyone handy with CF could make what Gruppe M for half the cost... $2000 is outrageous for something that provides no gains!
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