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      05-31-2016, 02:59 PM   #1
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Toe out for street driving?

Just got an alignment but since my front tie rods were seized I wasn't able to get the adjustment I wanted

Originally I wanted 0.1 toe in total (0.05 each side)
Now I have 0.2 toe out total (0.1 each side)

Will this have major wear on my tires? I would have to get new tie rods before getting another alignment

Trying to justify it if it's worth it since an alignment is $100, tie rods $150
If the wear isn't too much I'd leave it for now since a pair of new front PSS is about $500
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Up here in Canada, if the car has been driven at all in the winter, the adjusters will be seized. This is 100% normal. Quick heat with the torches will free them up easy. No need for replacement. Guess where you had the alignment done does not work on many BMWs?

Toe out will add extra wear to the inside of the tires.

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Up here in Canada, if the car has been driven at all in the winter, the adjusters will be seized. This is 100% normal. Quick heat with the torches will free them up easy. No need for replacement. Guess where you had the alignment done does not work on many BMWs?

Toe out will add extra wear to the inside of the tires.
I'm in Canada, we torched the shit out of it and it didn't budge lol
Just seeing if 0.2 toe out will affect it a lot or not because I was originally going to do 0.1 toe for stability

Handles amazing right now but don't want to switch tires all the time
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      05-31-2016, 11:14 PM   #4
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toe out = good for autocross, bad for stability.
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I run a total of 2mm toe out at the front on my car. Feels brilliant. Really nice turn in. Makes the front end of the car feel darty as if it had a quicker steering rack than it actually does. That said, tuj is right about stability. The car will want to tram line so be wary of that. I personally love the feel as the car feels on edge but others probably don't want that.

Mind you, I don't do much street driving on this car at all unless it's driving to a motorsports event. That said, I didn't notice any uneven tyre wear on the inside edge when I changed my tyres last.

If it's the same amount of toe out vs toe in, I can't see how the toe out will cause more tyre wear than the toe in. Either way they're both scrubbing at the same small angle. Maybe this changes with steering angle but someone might know more about that than me.
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I run a total of 2mm toe out at the front on my car. Feels brilliant. Really nice turn in. Makes the front end of the car feel darty as if it had a quicker steering rack than it actually does. That said, tuj is right about stability. The car will want to tram line so be wary of that. I personally love the feel as the car feels on edge but others probably don't want that.

Mind you, I don't do much street driving on this car at all unless it's driving to a motorsports event. That said, I didn't notice any uneven tyre wear on the inside edge when I changed my tyres last.

If it's the same amount of toe out vs toe in, I can't see how the toe out will cause more tyre wear than the toe in. Either way they're both scrubbing at the same small angle. Maybe this changes with steering angle but someone might know more about that than me.
Yea the car feels amazing when turning now but I don't really notice the loss of stability much. I've just been hearing that toe out wears the inside of the tire and that with the -2+ camber I have will wear it even faster
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Planning to get a pair of inner/outer bilstein tie rods. Anyone know how these are compared to the oem Lemfoerder?
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