Autozeitung: 1M vs RS3

Just_me · 05-13-2011, 05:26 AM

Audi RS3

test weight - 1622kg

0-100km/h - 4,2s
0-160km/h - 10,2s
0-200km/h - 16,8s

100-0km/h cold/warm - 34,4m/33,9m

slalom 18m - 66,8 km/h

laptime - 1:40,3 s

BMW 1M

test weight - 1522kg

0-100km/h - 4,5s
0-160km/h - 9,8s
0-200km/h - 16,3s

100-0km/h cold/warm - 35,2m/33,7m

slalom 18m - 68,1 km/h

laptime - 1:39,4 s

http://www.**************.com/intern...vs-bmw-1m.html

Thnaks to emve for the result.

superchargedman · 05-13-2011, 05:56 AM

Great! Can anyone translate? Tx.

conneem-TT · 05-13-2011, 07:01 AM

Translation of the points scheme

MrRoboto · 05-13-2011, 07:08 AM

1M wins where it counts!

Boxercup · 05-13-2011, 07:18 AM

The RS3 is more things to more people, I get it.

However, I never wanted or considered an RS3 but now I know it can carry a greater payload.......

.... I still don't want one!

conneem-TT · 05-13-2011, 07:30 AM

clived · 05-13-2011, 08:38 AM

Do BMWs have a much worse warranty than Audi? 8 points lost there! :-)

Agree with the above though - I can live with less front (5 points) and rear space (14 points) and a lower "variablity" score (what does that actualy mean in relation to "Body". Do the RS3s rear seats turn round to make a picnic area or something - whatever, another 15 points gone!).

Damn, I've been suckered into playing the points, not the emotion game

conneem-TT · 05-13-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clived

Do BMWs have a much worse warranty than Audi? 8 points lost there! :-)

Agree with the above though - I can live with less front (5 points) and rear space (14 points) and a lower "variablity" score (what does that actualy mean in relation to "Body". Do the RS3s rear seats turn round to make a picnic area or something - whatever, another 15 points gone!).

Damn, I've been suckered into playing the points, not the emotion game

Variability relates to colour, optics pack and wheel choice I'd guess

1Mer · 05-13-2011, 09:22 AM

To give a better score for Steering, I guess they must have really liked the FWD biased AWD and the Electric Power Steering.

WTF?

evolution80 · 05-13-2011, 09:43 AM

conclusion is:

the rs3 is the better allround daily driver whereas the 1M is an "uncompromising, razor-sharp - track tool"

so what would i prefer?

1Mer · 05-13-2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution80

conclusion is:

the rs3 is the better allround daily driver whereas the 1M is an "uncompromising, razor-sharp - track tool"

so what would i prefer?

For some people, the best allround daily driver is a Lincoln Town Car

conneem-TT · 05-13-2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Mer

To give a better score for Steering, I guess they must have really liked the FWD biased AWD and the Electric Power Steering.

WTF?

Auto Motor und Sport came to the same conclusion and awarded the RS3 more points for steering in their comparison test as they found the 1M's steering "unnecessarily heavy & somewhat insensitive"

clived · 05-13-2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conneem-TT

Variability relates to colour, optics pack and wheel choice I'd guess

Ahhh... yes - fair points then

M3Power79 · 05-13-2011, 01:22 PM

a car with that weight and "only" 340 HP deserves more than 40/100 for traction when it does 4,5 sec. to 100 km/h. Or am i becoming retarded?

blacknbean · 05-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3Power79

a car with that weight and "only" 340 HP deserves more than 40/100 for traction when it does 4,5 sec. to 100 km/h. Or am i becoming retarded?

i saw this too. makes no sense. of course the awd will have more traction. i dont know why they even have this category when the comparing awd vs rwd. in terms of driving dynamics i would prefer the rwd with 'less' traction

1Mer · 05-13-2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conneem-TT

Auto Motor und Sport came to the same conclusion and awarded the RS3 more points for steering in their comparison test as they found the 1M's steering "unnecessarily heavy & somewhat insensitive"

That's two reviews now - is the 1M steering really "unnecessarily heavy & somewhat insensitive" ?

Anybody who's actually driven one want to comment?

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Just_me Captain 195 Rep 657 Posts Drives: RWD Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Autozeitung: 1M vs RS3 Audi RS3 test weight - 1622kg 0-100km/h - 4,2s 0-160km/h - 10,2s 0-200km/h - 16,8s 100-0km/h cold/warm - 34,4m/33,9m slalom 18m - 66,8 km/h laptime - 1:40,3 s BMW 1M test weight - 1522kg 0-100km/h - 4,5s 0-160km/h - 9,8s 0-200km/h - 16,3s 100-0km/h cold/warm - 35,2m/33,7m slalom 18m - 68,1 km/h laptime - 1:39,4 s http://www.**************.com/intern...vs-bmw-1m.html Thnaks to emve for the result.
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clived Captain 39 Rep 812 Posts Drives: Evolved 1M Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Do BMWs have a much worse warranty than Audi? 8 points lost there! :-) Agree with the above though - I can live with less front (5 points) and rear space (14 points) and a lower "variablity" score (what does that actualy mean in relation to "Body". Do the RS3s rear seats turn round to make a picnic area or something - whatever, another 15 points gone!). Damn, I've been suckered into playing the points, not the emotion game __________________ 2019+ BSM M2C 2011-2012: VO 1M Coupe, many toys, Evolve Stage 3. 2008-2011: 135i M Sport Le Mans Blue / Lemon / HGSL. Evolve OBD remap - 390bhp. Also in the family: X3 M40d / Audi S4 (V8)
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