BMW M1 to be unleashed by M division! (OFFICIAL confirmation from M boss)

[Yes2m3cs]

Mental note to self: start saving because I will want one for sure

Call it whatever ya want..

[BForbes]

Originally Posted by xG35guy

Mental note to self: start saving because I will want one for sure

Call it whatever ya want..

You are not alone friend.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have driven the TTRS and whilst I agree with you the car is exceptionally quick it falls in to the poor dynamics category of most performance cars today. Straight-line speed is not what a performance car should be all about that is why BMW and BMW M are different in every respect.

To make a good M car you have to have a great platform to begin with.
In the case of the E92 M3 the car is based on the segment leading 3er Coupe , Just as the M1 will be based on the excellent small Coupe of the 1er.
Both are excellent drivers cars offering the right balance of Performance and dynamics.
If your base model does not live up to it's intentions, how can the performance model build upon this?

More Speed and being exceptionally quick is one aspect of performance cars but I prefer cars which offer more , much more than just going in one direction. That is what seperates BMW from the competition.

+1

Another thing: I prefere a real M1 than a modded 135i that is maybe faster. Unless it is far a track car, I am not a fan of after market parts exept wheel spacers, Brembo brakes, KW suspenssion, Akrapovic exhaust, Noelle Motors ecu and LED bulbs. An an M Car has more than just this.
About the name I like it, it makes sense, but make the next M1 Coupe an M2 based on the 2 Series Coupe, and the next M3 Coupé an M4 based on the 4 Series Coupé. Then there will be a M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, maybe M7 and M8 if there will be a new 8 Series.

[investor27]

Isn't anybody worried about the HPFP? Shouldn't BMW resolve that issue before making the M1? In my opinion, if everyone would just start calling it the M1, BMW will end up officially calling it the M1. I can't wait to get my hands on it, but the HPFP issue hasn't been solved. I'm still keeping my fingers cross on my 2009 535i xdrive after 5,000 miles on it daily, and I don't like to have to worry everytime I get in my car for a long trip.

[BMW86]

I really don't think BMW thinks its an issue because they would have addressed it by now. I think they're just happy to keep replacing as many as they need to within the warranty for now.

[mapezzul]

Originally Posted by Levi

Brembo brakes, KW suspenssion, Akrapovic exhaust,

Sounds like you are listing BMW and ///M oem suppliers

[ESC OFF]

Originally Posted by Levi

..............I am not a fan of after market parts exept wheel spacers, Brembo brakes, KW suspenssion, Akrapovic exhaust, Noelle Motors ecu and LED bulbs. ...............

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have driven the TTRS and whilst I agree with you the car is exceptionally quick it falls in to the poor dynamics category of most performance cars today. Straight-line speed is not what a performance car should be all about that is why BMW and BMW M are different in every respect.

To make a good M car you have to have a great platform to begin with.
In the case of the E92 M3 the car is based on the segment leading 3er Coupe , Just as the M1 will be based on the excellent small Coupe of the 1er.
Both are excellent drivers cars offering the right balance of Performance and dynamics.
If your base model does not live up to it's intentions, how can the performance model build upon this?

More Speed and being exceptionally quick is one aspect of performance cars but I prefer cars which offer more , much more than just going in one direction. That is what seperates BMW from the competition.

+1!!

That's what M car is all about.

Originally Posted by xG35guy

Mental note to self: start saving because I will want one for sure

Call it whatever ya want..

+1!!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by investor27

Isn't anybody worried about the HPFP? Shouldn't BMW resolve that issue before making the M1? In my opinion, if everyone would just start calling it the M1, BMW will end up officially calling it the M1. I can't wait to get my hands on it, but the HPFP issue hasn't been solved. I'm still keeping my fingers cross on my 2009 535i xdrive after 5,000 miles on it daily, and I don't like to have to worry everytime I get in my car for a long trip.

I would assume that the ///M1 would get a different engine, not a modded up N54. That is just a guess.....as a result, there is no reason to think that the HPFP will be a problem......

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have driven the TTRS and whilst I agree with you the car is exceptionally quick it falls in to the poor dynamics category of most performance cars today. Straight-line speed is not what a performance car should be all about that is why BMW and BMW M are different in every respect.

To make a good M car you have to have a great platform to begin with.
In the case of the E92 M3 the car is based on the segment leading 3er Coupe , Just as the M1 will be based on the excellent small Coupe of the 1er.
Both are excellent drivers cars offering the right balance of Performance and dynamics.
If your base model does not live up to it's intentions, how can the performance model build upon this?

More Speed and being exceptionally quick is one aspect of performance cars but I prefer cars which offer more , much more than just going in one direction. That is what seperates BMW from the competition.

Always good information to hear from you Scott.....

I will really, really want this car--it is going to be awesome. I also don't give 2 shits what they call it--I like the idea of an ///M1.....

My problem is that I was one of the early '08 135 guys....so the timing for this car might be a little late for me, since the 135 gets turned in May of '11....maybe I should get a beater till the ///M1 comes out.

[Minimization]

Amen Scott. Looking forward to high-output turbo/DI four and/or five cylinders as well.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

We are not going after the R8. BMW do not follow the competition.

The Product expansion for our compact models and Project-i Programme is the current focus within BMW.

We can make more profit from a range of models developed from an initial platform than we can by producing one platform for one car.
We have just went through a very tough economic climate where we found that customers were downsizing to smaller , more efficient vehicles.
With the highest growth to be made in the coming decade is within the compact segment and BMW will offer a portfolio of premium compact models. Cars that will fit within the BMW image by offering compact Sporty models with excellent driving dynamics that would shame cars costing two or three times as much. Again BMW have just shown up their key competitors who are now scrambling to offer solutions for their compact platforms.

The E82 M1 is the grand finale but it is also the beginning of a new chapter.
And a new era in compact performance BMW's.

The name M1 was put to a focus group in December and in voting , M1 had the highest amount of votes from a marketing point of view it resonates more and offers continuity with the rest of the M portfolio.
Regarding the M1 supercar , There will be no production car of the M1 homage , That concept was strictly as it was termed a Homage. the M1 supercar is a product of the seventies and it has a rich history both as a concept and in motorSport. It is time to leave the car to History so it will never be forgotten and open a new chapter for the 1 series.

[Minimization]

Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

plz dont call it a M1...

Please do call it the M1!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Minimization

Please do call it the M1!

I agree--never saw what the big deal was....out with the old, in with the new.

[gemini330zhp]

I will not believe the hype until the real car is actually made and the real specs are out!!!! I have a feeling this car is going to be a monster!!!

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by investor27

Isn't anybody worried about the HPFP? Shouldn't BMW resolve that issue before making the M1? In my opinion, if everyone would just start calling it the M1, BMW will end up officially calling it the M1. I can't wait to get my hands on it, but the HPFP issue hasn't been solved. I'm still keeping my fingers cross on my 2009 535i xdrive after 5,000 miles on it daily, and I don't like to have to worry everytime I get in my car for a long trip.

Why is everybody so afraid?

Ive gone on several 1000 mile + road trips in my 135i and I have never had an HPFP failure. Just drive your damned car and dont let a bunch of people that you have never actually met grip you in a state of fear.

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Always good information to hear from you Scott.....

I will really, really want this car--it is going to be awesome. I also don't give 2 shits what they call it--I like the idea of an ///M1.....

My problem is that I was one of the early '08 135 guys....so the timing for this car might be a little late for me, since the 135 gets turned in May of '11....maybe I should get a beater till the ///M1 comes out.

I'm with you, albeit, alittle later. I got mine in Oct. '08. I think there is a way to "extend" the payments almost like renting. I could be wrong. Either way, I will definitely take this over a CPO M3 which was my goal.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Haywood

I'm with you, albeit, alittle later. I got mine in Oct. '08. I think there is a way to "extend" the payments almost like renting. I could be wrong. Either way, I will definitely take this over a CPO M3 which was my goal.

I too was toying with the idea of an E9X M3....but with this news, if it indeed makes it over to the US......

I have heard of the "extending" that you mentioned--I had thought that they would limit it to 3 months or something like that, for extra time you could keep the car and your original contract....not sure if that is indeed true, but someone told me that once.....

My original thought was that driving a beater would allow me to save the monthly payment $$$ that I would be spending on the 135 or equiv....which would allow me to stomach the initial cost of the ///M1 a little better....

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

We are not going after the R8. BMW do not follow the competition.

The Product expansion for our compact models and Project-i Programme is the current focus within BMW.

We can make more profit from a range of models developed from an initial platform than we can by producing one platform for one car.
We have just went through a very tough economic climate where we found that customers were downsizing to smaller , more efficient vehicles.
With the highest growth to be made in the coming decade is within the compact segment and BMW will offer a portfolio of premium compact models. Cars that will fit within the BMW image by offering compact Sporty models with excellent driving dynamics that would shame cars costing two or three times as much. Again BMW have just shown up their key competitors who are now scrambling to offer solutions for their compact platforms.

The E82 M1 is the grand finale but it is also the beginning of a new chapter.
And a new era in compact performance BMW's.

The name M1 was put to a focus group in December and in voting , M1 had the highest amount of votes from a marketing point of view it resonates more and offers continuity with the rest of the M portfolio.
Regarding the M1 supercar , There will be no production car of the M1 homage , That concept was strictly as it was termed a Homage. the M1 supercar is a product of the seventies and it has a rich history both as a concept and in motorSport. It is time to leave the car to History so it will never be forgotten and open a new chapter for the 1 series.

Thanks for all the information you've provided as of late Scott26. I do have a couple of questions. Is the 1 series "Super Sport" we've heard about the upcoming M1, or is it a model to fit between the 135 and M1 like a 135iS or 135tii? Also, is there anymore information on the Z2?

[Muffnbluff]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have driven the TTRS and whilst I agree with you the car is exceptionally quick it falls in to the poor dynamics category of most performance cars today. Straight-line speed is not what a performance car should be all about that is why BMW and BMW M are different in every respect.

To make a good M car you have to have a great platform to begin with.
In the case of the E92 M3 the car is based on the segment leading 3er Coupe , Just as the M1 will be based on the excellent small Coupe of the 1er.
Both are excellent drivers cars offering the right balance of Performance and dynamics.
If your base model does not live up to it's intentions, how can the performance model build upon this?

More Speed and being exceptionally quick is one aspect of performance cars but I prefer cars which offer more , much more than just going in one direction. That is what seperates BMW from the competition.

The TT-S beat a 135i in a comparison test and according to the article: "Test results don't lie; the TTS corners harder than the 135i. In fact, it devours twisties almost too easily."

I find it hard to believe the TT-RS doesn't handle just as well as the TT-S which was able to beat the 135i despite having a smaller, less powerful engine.

[Jaguar66]

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[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by RobMason

I agree, lets call it the 507. That is really old, time to bring it back. Come to think of it, why stick with old BMW, why not call it the GT40, or even GTO. I like the sound of it, the new BMW GTO. I want one.

The new Z4 has enough design cues from the 507 to be considered its sucessor. Why not call it that

And to the rest of that, youre just getting silly.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by RobMason

I like the sound of it, the new BMW GTO. I want one.

If the wheels fit.....wear 'em!