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Red135 · 03-31-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NFIDDY5

Even with Meth injection, 400 WHEEL horsepower is pretty unreal. But with twin turbos, gains will / should be phenomenal.

Not exactly. People with upgraded turbos are almost hitting 500 whp.

wildcat767676 · 03-31-2011, 05:59 PM

Do you lose any low end torque/throttle response from upgraded turbos?

NFIDDY5 · 03-31-2011, 07:12 PM

Depends on the size of the turbo I believe. The bigger the snail, the more lag...the smaller the Turbo, the less top end.

NFIDDY5 · 03-31-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Red135

Not exactly. People with upgraded turbos are almost hitting 500 whp.

I was talking about stock turbos. I am sure with upgraded turbos and intercoolers, 400whp is not hard to achieve.

Red135 · 03-31-2011, 07:16 PM

Here's a dyno:

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11642

Only 450 on pump gas, though.

Red135 · 03-31-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NFIDDY5

I was talking about stock turbos. I am sure with upgraded turbos and intercoolers, 400whp is not hard to achieve.

I was, also. Stock turbos can do 400.

NFIDDY5 · 03-31-2011, 07:32 PM

Wow. That's amazing. Are you still on the stock turbos? Nevermind. I saw the date on the linked thread. Where do you go for dyno-tuning?

Red135 · 03-31-2011, 07:39 PM

I, unfortunately, am not referring to myself. I don't even have a 1-series, currently. I am just talking about full bolt-ons, meth and race gas in general will get you close to 400.

What was the baseline dyno before the DP's?

NFIDDY5 · 03-31-2011, 07:44 PM

Everytime I see the power of the N54 twin turbos after a tune I feel like I got ripped off buying an N55 powered car. N55 = only half the fun! DAMMIT!

Red135 · 03-31-2011, 08:09 PM

So far it seems that the N55 is faster "out of the box", but the N54 has much more potential. We have to give the tuners so time to figure out the N55.

NFIDDY5 · 03-31-2011, 08:35 PM

Yeah. That's cool with me anyway. That gives me time to work on the suspension and exterior/interior cosmetics. But realistically, the twin Turbo will always yield more power than the single turbo.

wildcat767676 · 04-01-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red135

I, unfortunately, am not referring to myself. I don't even have a 1-series, currently. I am just talking about full bolt-ons, meth and race gas in general will get you close to 400.

What was the baseline dyno before the DP's?

These numbers are probably off since it was done on my daily driving MAP 5 but:

272 HP
287 TQ

MUSTANG DYNO(always lower than other dynos)

80 degrees

Only 91 octane in AZ.

THIS WAS BEFORE DP'S! I WILL RE DYNO AFTER COMPUTER ADJUSTS TO THE DP'S AND ALSO DO RUNS ON MAP 1 AS DIRECTED BY BURGER.

GringoStar · 04-01-2011, 11:52 AM

I'll come down and dyno mine to give you another jb'd 135 to compare against. Free this afternoon?

wildcat767676 · 04-01-2011, 11:58 AM

PM me!

NFIDDY5 · 04-04-2011, 03:21 PM

This is the one thing I dislike about piggyback systems. A flashed ECU would not have this issue arise. Damn you CANBUS!

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NFIDDY5 I bleed Scarlet and Gray!! 23 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buckeye Nut House iTrader: (0)	Depends on the size of the turbo I believe. The bigger the snail, the more lag...the smaller the Turbo, the less top end.
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Red135 La Flama Blanca 27 Rep 1,545 Posts Drives: 1-series Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abq, NM iTrader: (1)	Here's a dyno: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11642 Only 450 on pump gas, though.
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NFIDDY5 I bleed Scarlet and Gray!! 23 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buckeye Nut House iTrader: (0)	Wow. That's amazing. Are you still on the stock turbos? Nevermind. I saw the date on the linked thread. Where do you go for dyno-tuning? Last edited by NFIDDY5; 03-31-2011 at 07:40 PM..
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Red135 La Flama Blanca 27 Rep 1,545 Posts Drives: 1-series Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abq, NM iTrader: (1)	I, unfortunately, am not referring to myself. I don't even have a 1-series, currently. I am just talking about full bolt-ons, meth and race gas in general will get you close to 400. What was the baseline dyno before the DP's?
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NFIDDY5 I bleed Scarlet and Gray!! 23 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buckeye Nut House iTrader: (0)	Everytime I see the power of the N54 twin turbos after a tune I feel like I got ripped off buying an N55 powered car. N55 = only half the fun! DAMMIT!
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Red135 La Flama Blanca 27 Rep 1,545 Posts Drives: 1-series Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abq, NM iTrader: (1)	So far it seems that the N55 is faster "out of the box", but the N54 has much more potential. We have to give the tuners so time to figure out the N55.
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NFIDDY5 I bleed Scarlet and Gray!! 23 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buckeye Nut House iTrader: (0)	Yeah. That's cool with me anyway. That gives me time to work on the suspension and exterior/interior cosmetics. But realistically, the twin Turbo will always yield more power than the single turbo.
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GringoStar Private First Class 5 Rep 138 Posts Drives: F30 - 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0)	I'll come down and dyno mine to give you another jb'd 135 to compare against. Free this afternoon? __________________ Sold: 330i, 330ci, 2003 m3 vert Sold: 09 Alpine white/Coral Red 135i 321 hp 340 to to the wheels Now: 12 alpine white/coral red 335i Power tbd
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NFIDDY5 I bleed Scarlet and Gray!! 23 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buckeye Nut House iTrader: (0)	This is the one thing I dislike about piggyback systems. A flashed ECU would not have this issue arise. Damn you CANBUS!
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