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      02-19-2016, 07:38 PM   #23
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For the 128, apparently none of the braking-related parameters are the same.
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I guess if I were you guys, I'd be asking for the traces from a 1M for comparison.

I'm just learning to code, very slowly due to software incompatibility. But the other night I was able to get into my DSC module. Using NCS Dummy it looked like there where various degrees of control, as well as off.
What I'd be most curious about is how the 1M differs from the standard 1's?
We know the M doesn't have the nannies turned off. So it should also be with out saying that 'tuning' the nannies might give the best/fastest results.
I imagine the slip-angle settings (understeer/oversteer) are much less intrusive.
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Any news on some of the E82 128 Params?
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I can't find any code related to several of the items OP mentions he found in the MK60 module for his X1. Maybe the 128i actually doesn't have a lot of these electronic nannies? I'll be waiting to hear back if anyone finds them in another module or something, but here is what I was able to find/change:

EDIT: "Brake Standby (e84_EVB)" is called "Ready Alert Brake (C0F_BB_RAB)" on an E82... no screenshots of this




Electronic Differential
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_DIFF_LOCK
	wert_02



Brake Fading Compensation (FBS)
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_FBS
        wert_01

Coded Off?:
C0F_FBS
	wert_00



Engine Power Reduction to Prevent Brake Disc Overheating (FLR)
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_FLR
          wert_01

Coded Off?:
C0F_FLR
	  wert_00
	  wert_02



Here is the STOCK .TRC file for my 2013 128i (N51):

Code:
SZL
	wert_02
C0X_C8
	wert_02
C0F_AFH_HSA
	wert_01
C0F_AFS
	wert_00
C0F_ASC_AMR_STB
	wert_03
C0F_ASC_BMR_STB
	wert_02
C0F_ASL
	wert_00
C0F_BAUART
	wert_02
C0F_BB_RAB
	wert_01
C0F_BBV
	wert_00
C0F_BBV_KORR_HA
	wert_01
	wert_04
C0F_BBV_KORR_VA
	wert_04
C0F_BERGAB_GERASTET
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_BERGAB_KENNEN
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_BERGABANSATZ
	wert_00
C0F_BTM
	wert_00
C0F_CBC
	wert_00
C0F_CF_ESM_HB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CF_ESM_LB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CR_ESM_HB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CR_ESM_LB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_DBC_MIN_AUSLOESEDRUCK
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_AAT
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_ATT_SCHUB_AUS
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_ATT_SCHUB_EIN
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_DTC
	wert_00
C0F_DELTA_PSI_BETA_LIMIT
	wert_01
C0F_DF_DIR
	wert_02
C0F_DIFF_LOCK
	wert_02
C0F_DRUCKMODELL_HA
	wert_02
C0F_DRUCKMODELL_VA
	wert_02
C0F_ECBA_DCC
	wert_00
C0F_FBS
	wert_01
C0F_FLR
	wert_01
C0F_GETRIEBE
	wert_01
C0F_GMB
	wert_00
C0F_GMK_ECBA_HA
	wert_01
C0F_GMK_ECBA_VA
	wert_03
C0F_GMR_MAX_LIMIT_SCHRAEG
	wert_00
C0F_GMR_MIN_LIMIT_SCHRAEG
	wert_00
C0F_HSA
	wert_06
C0F_HSA_AFH_AFU
	wert_00
C0F_IPM_MAX_P_RES
	wert_00
C0F_KUEHLSCHACHT
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LCL
	wert_00
C0F_LENKWINKELKENNLINIE
	wert_03
C0F_LF_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LR_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LUEFTER
	wert_00
C0F_LWK_X2
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_X3
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_X4
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y1
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y2
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y3
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y4
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_M_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_MIN_DRUCKAUFBAU_GRAD
	wert_00
C0F_MOTOR
	wert_06
C0F_MOTOR_LEISTUNG_MAX
	wert_00
	wert_18
C0F_MOTOR_SCHLEPP_P
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_PRE_MSR
	wert_00
C0F_PRE_USC
	wert_00
C0F_RPA
	wert_01
C0F_RPA_SCHWELLE
	wert_00
	wert_02
C0F_SC_X_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SC_Y_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SCHUBABSCHALTUNG
	wert_00
C0F_SDR_CTC
	wert_00
C0F_SETZ_V_MAX
	wert_00
C0F_SPURWEITE
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SST
	wert_00
C0F_TB_BDD
	wert_01
C0F_THETA_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_0
	wert_03
C0F_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
	wert_03
C0F_UNTERSTEUERN_MUE_0
	wert_00
C0F_UNTERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
	wert_00
C0F_UNTERSTEUERSCHWELLE
	wert_00
	wert_02
C0F_V_EINHEIT
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_NEG_FEIN
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_NEG_GROB
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_POS_FEIN
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_POS_GROB
	wert_00

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Guys, I am sorry I kind of fell off the face of the earth. My car was totaled and I was pretty upset by the whole situation. It has been nearly 45 days and I am still fighting insurance and do not even know if it has "officially" been classified as totaled yet (it clearly is). That being said, while the situation has stifled my ability to work on this, I should be meeting with a friend with a 128i in early april to take a look at his coding files and try to figure some stuff out.

I have a deposit down on a M2 and I will certainly delve into the coding there, but not sure how much will be applicable to the e series cars.
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      03-12-2016, 09:38 PM   #28
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On a side note, I can't seem to actually write the code to my car. I get as far as exporting from NCSDummy to the .MAN file. I then go back to NCSExpert and change the job from "CODIERDATEN_LESEN to SG_CODIEREN and click "EXECUTE JOB." The idiot lights all go beserk and NCSExpert indicates the job completed. However, I can't seem to verify anything actually changed. I can see the coding changes were exported to the .MAN file by NCSDummy (File date and time changed and "wert" values reflect my changes). After executing the job with NCSExpert there don't seem to be any changes though. When I re-read the module, producing a new .TRC file, the values are still stock...

Am I doing something wrong here?

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I can't find any code related to several of the items OP mentions he found in his DSC module for his X1. Maybe the 128i actually doesn't have a lot of these electronic nannies? I'll be waiting to hear back if anyone finds them in another module or something, but here is what I was able to find/change:




Electronic Differential
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_DIFF_LOCK
	wert_02



Brake Fading Compensation (FBS)
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_FBS
        wert_01

Coded Off?:
C0F_FBS
	wert_00



Engine Power Reduction to Prevent Brake Disc Overheating (FLR)
Code:
STOCK:
C0F_FLR
          wert_01

Coded Off?:
C0F_FLR
	  wert_00
	  wert_02



Here is the STOCK .TRC file for my 2013 128i (N51):

Code:
SZL
	wert_02
C0X_C8
	wert_02
C0F_AFH_HSA
	wert_01
C0F_AFS
	wert_00
C0F_ASC_AMR_STB
	wert_03
C0F_ASC_BMR_STB
	wert_02
C0F_ASL
	wert_00
C0F_BAUART
	wert_02
C0F_BB_RAB
	wert_01
C0F_BBV
	wert_00
C0F_BBV_KORR_HA
	wert_01
	wert_04
C0F_BBV_KORR_VA
	wert_04
C0F_BERGAB_GERASTET
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_BERGAB_KENNEN
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_BERGABANSATZ
	wert_00
C0F_BTM
	wert_00
C0F_CBC
	wert_00
C0F_CF_ESM_HB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CF_ESM_LB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CR_ESM_HB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_CR_ESM_LB
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_DBC_MIN_AUSLOESEDRUCK
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_AAT
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_ATT_SCHUB_AUS
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_C_ATT_SCHUB_EIN
	wert_00
C0F_DCC_DTC
	wert_00
C0F_DELTA_PSI_BETA_LIMIT
	wert_01
C0F_DF_DIR
	wert_02
C0F_DIFF_LOCK
	wert_02
C0F_DRUCKMODELL_HA
	wert_02
C0F_DRUCKMODELL_VA
	wert_02
C0F_ECBA_DCC
	wert_00
C0F_FBS
	wert_01
C0F_FLR
	wert_01
C0F_GETRIEBE
	wert_01
C0F_GMB
	wert_00
C0F_GMK_ECBA_HA
	wert_01
C0F_GMK_ECBA_VA
	wert_03
C0F_GMR_MAX_LIMIT_SCHRAEG
	wert_00
C0F_GMR_MIN_LIMIT_SCHRAEG
	wert_00
C0F_HSA
	wert_06
C0F_HSA_AFH_AFU
	wert_00
C0F_IPM_MAX_P_RES
	wert_00
C0F_KUEHLSCHACHT
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LCL
	wert_00
C0F_LENKWINKELKENNLINIE
	wert_03
C0F_LF_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LR_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LUEFTER
	wert_00
C0F_LWK_X2
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_X3
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_X4
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y1
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y2
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y3
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_LWK_Y4
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_M_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_MIN_DRUCKAUFBAU_GRAD
	wert_00
C0F_MOTOR
	wert_06
C0F_MOTOR_LEISTUNG_MAX
	wert_00
	wert_18
C0F_MOTOR_SCHLEPP_P
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_PRE_MSR
	wert_00
C0F_PRE_USC
	wert_00
C0F_RPA
	wert_01
C0F_RPA_SCHWELLE
	wert_00
	wert_02
C0F_SC_X_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SC_Y_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SCHUBABSCHALTUNG
	wert_00
C0F_SDR_CTC
	wert_00
C0F_SETZ_V_MAX
	wert_00
C0F_SPURWEITE
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_SST
	wert_00
C0F_TB_BDD
	wert_01
C0F_THETA_ESM
	wert_00
	wert_01
C0F_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_0
	wert_03
C0F_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
	wert_03
C0F_UNTERSTEUERN_MUE_0
	wert_00
C0F_UNTERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
	wert_00
C0F_UNTERSTEUERSCHWELLE
	wert_00
	wert_02
C0F_V_EINHEIT
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_NEG_FEIN
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_NEG_GROB
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_POS_FEIN
	wert_00
C0F_VERZOEG_POS_GROB
	wert_00

Honestly, you managed to find what I consider the most important three. I will be looking at a friend's 128i in a couple of weeks, but if you can disable these it is a good sign.
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Honestly, you managed to find what I consider the most important three. I will be looking at a friend's 128i in a couple of weeks, but if you can disable these it is a good sign.
Sorry to hear about the car. I'll be playing with ncs expert some more today to try to figure out why my new settings aren't sticking.
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On a side note, I can't seem to actually write the code to my car. I get as far as exporting from NCSDummy to the .MAN file. I then go back to NCSExpert and change the job from "CODIERDATEN_LESEN to SG_CODIEREN and click "EXECUTE JOB." The idiot lights all go beserk and NCSExpert indicates the job completed. However, I can't seem to verify anything actually changed. I can see the coding changes were exported to the .MAN file by NCSDummy (File date and time changed and "wert" values reflect my changes). After executing the job with NCSExpert there don't seem to be any changes though. When I re-read the module, producing a new .TRC file, the values are still stock...

Am I doing something wrong here?
What profile are you using in ncsexpert?

Paradox: sorry to hear about your car.
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What profile are you using in ncsexpert?

Paradox: sorry to hear about your car.
Expert mode. About to go try again now...
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Expert mode. About to go try again now...
your issue may be that expert mode usually doesn't have fsw psw manipulate enabled, unless you manually enabled it. the only time i use that profile is when i need to flash a blank.man to reset a module, and i usually don't do that anymore because there is a better way to reset a module.

if you go to b m w coding dot com there is a tutorial on how to create your own profile. The steps in that tutorial will walk you through setting up a profile that has fsw psw manipulate enabled.
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your issue may be that expert mode usually doesn't have fsw psw manipulate enabled, unless you manually enabled it. the only time i use that profile is when i need to flash a blank.man to reset a module, and i usually don't do that anymore because there is a better way to reset a module.

if you go to b m w coding dot com there is a tutorial on how to create your own profile. The steps in that tutorial will walk you through setting up a profile that has fsw psw manipulate enabled.
Weird no guide ever mentions setting up a profile. I see that revtor's profile was renamed to "ncs dummy profile" and that came pre-loaded so I'll try using that.

UPDATE:

Using that profile did the trick. Brake fade and brake overheating is now turned off (I hope). Thanks for your help!

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Can anyone shed any light on the following (compared my TRC to an 09 335i):

C0F_LENKWINKELKENNLINIE (STEERING ANGLE CHARACTERISTIC CURVE)
13 base 128i = wert_03
09 335i = wert_00 & wert_01

C0F_SCHUBABSCHALTUNG (DECELERATION FUEL CUT-OFF [WERT_00: DISABLED, WERT_01: ENABLED]
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_01

-Is it possible to simply activate this? It cuts fuel to save gas when coasting downhill...

C0F_DBC_MIN_AUSLOESEDRUCK (DYNAMIC BRAKE CONTROL (DBC) MINIMIUM RELEASE PRESSURE)
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_00
Data: E4

-There is no other setting for this but the data value is populated so is it active? Seems like if "data" is "0" then whatever settings you're looking at is not active. Since there is data in wert_00 in this case it probably IS doing something?

C0F_CBC (CORNERING BRAKE CONTROL (CBC))
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_00
Data: 0

-Again, there is no other setting for this and the data value is "0" so does that mean no CBC for either model?

If anyone has an m-sport TRC I can look at please paste it! At this point all I can conclude is that 128i/335i models don't have half the crap to code that the x1 has in the MK60 module.

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Can anyone shed any light on the following (compared my TRC to an 09 335i):

C0F_LENKWINKELKENNLINIE (STEERING ANGLE CHARACTERISTIC CURVE)
13 base 128i = wert_03
09 335i = wert_00 & wert_01

C0F_SCHUBABSCHALTUNG (DECELERATION FUEL CUT-OFF [WERT_00: DISABLED, WERT_01: ENABLED]
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_01

-Is it possible to simply activate this? It cuts fuel to save gas when coasting downhill...

C0F_DBC_MIN_AUSLOESEDRUCK (DYNAMIC BRAKE CONTROL (DBC) MINIMIUM RELEASE PRESSURE)
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_00
Data: E4

-There is no other setting for this but the data value is populated so is it active? Seems like if "data" is "0" then whatever settings you're looking at is not active. Since there is data in wert_00 in this case it probably IS doing something?

C0F_CBC (CORNERING BRAKE CONTROL (CBC))
13 base 128i = wert_00
09 335i = wert_00
Data: 0

-Again, there is no other setting for this and the data value is "0" so does that mean no CBC for either model?

If anyone has an m-sport TRC I can look at please paste it! At this point all I can conclude is that 128i/335i models don't have half the crap to code the x1 has in the DSC module. Other than what I posted above, I didn't see any other lines of code that I thought might be useful to edit.
The 335xi definitely does as I have coded all of the identical stuff off.

I have not messed around with a 28i in person yet (just seen a few trc files emailed to me), and there is a different DSC module in RWD vs. xdrive cars as well which has some differences.

I think it also depends on what year your car is, I have seen different parameters in different years.
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I really want to find a way to disable the brake pre-tensioning on the 128. Everything else is just a bonus, but that is *obnoxious* for motorsport applications.
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Guys, I am sorry I kind of fell off the face of the earth. My car was totaled and I was pretty upset by the whole situation. It has been nearly 45 days and I am still fighting insurance and do not even know if it has "officially" been classified as totaled yet (it clearly is). That being said, while the situation has stifled my ability to work on this, I should be meeting with a friend with a 128i in early april to take a look at his coding files and try to figure some stuff out.

I have a deposit down on a M2 and I will certainly delve into the coding there, but not sure how much will be applicable to the e series cars.
Wow, bummer about your car! I hope you get everything worked out satisfactorily with you insurance company.

Please do post any updates you come up with after getting your hands on a 128i - I know there are several of us looking for a workaround for some of the more intrusive software settings.
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So, looking at this image it seems that also 125i and 128i have E-Diff already active... Has anyone tried to code the DSC with wert_01?

I'm not planning to install an LSD this year so I want to be sure that at least I have the one already available from BMW
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So, looking at this image it seems that also 125i and 128i have E-Diff already active... Has anyone tried to code the DSC with wert_01?

I'm not planning to install an LSD this year so I want to be sure that at least I have the one already available from BMW
I've done it. I'm still testing the results. I need more information from more experienced members to figure out if it is truly off or not.

So what I'm seeing/feeling is that:

1) There is still braking intervention with DTC & DSC still on/with DSC on only. I guess this is expected since I'm not actually coding off traction/stability control.

2) While testing in snow with DTC & DSC off, I still felt something holding back the rear tires. There were occasions where I had trouble getting the car rotated unless I really upset the balance of the car.

I have an autocross event coming up. I'll try to update with more thoughts later.
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I've done it. I'm still testing the results. I need more information from more experienced members to figure out if it is truly off or not.

So what I'm seeing/feeling is that:

1) There is still braking intervention with DTC & DSC still on/with DSC on only. I guess this is expected since I'm not actually coding off traction/stability control.

2) While testing in snow with DTC & DSC off, I still felt something holding back the rear tires. There were occasions where I had trouble getting the car rotated unless I really upset the balance of the car.

I have an autocross event coming up. I'll try to update with more thoughts later.
You guys are both misunderstanding that setting. Coding the e-differential off does not effect the other systems like dsc/asc/cbc. I am not sure if turning off dsc (holding traction button for 3 seconds) turns off asc or cbc. If it doesn't, that may be why you're still not able to slide without intervention. If this is the case then you'll have to research the asc lines of code as I don't think anyone has messed with those yet.

I am pretty sure it has been confirmed in this thread, and elsewhere, that setting the e-diff from wert_02 to wert_00 & wert_01 (together) will disable it. I didn't do it myself because I don't have a mechanical lsd. The picture I posted is of the e-diff active on the 128i (wert_02).
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You guys are both misunderstanding that setting. Coding the e-differential off does not effect the other systems like dsc/asc/cbc. I am not sure if turning off dsc (holding traction button for 3 seconds) turns off asc or cbc. If it doesn't, that may be why you're still not able to slide without intervention. If this is the case then you'll have to research the asc lines of code as I don't think anyone has messed with those yet.

I am pretty sure it has been confirmed in this thread, and elsewhere, that setting the e-diff from wert_02 to wert_00 & wert_01 (together) will disable it. I didn't do it myself because I don't have a mechanical lsd. The picture I posted is of the e-diff active on the 128i (wert_02).
My question was slightly different, BMW has always said e-diff is available only on 123d and 135i but looking at how my DSC is coded I would say also 125i has e-diff.
So I was thinking if coding off the e-diff on a 128i really works or it doesn't change anything cause e-diff is anyway not available!
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You guys are both misunderstanding that setting. Coding the e-differential off does not effect the other systems like dsc/asc/cbc.
So my question is how should I go about verifying that the e-diff is actually off? I have a mechanical diff and C0F_DIFF_LOCK set to wert_00 & wert_01. If I feel braking intervention with DTC/DSC off (holding the traction control button for 10 seconds), then I would assume that the e-diff is still kicking in.
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So my question is how should I go about verifying that the e-diff is actually off? I have a mechanical diff and C0F_DIFF_LOCK set to wert_00 & wert_01. If I feel braking intervention with DTC/DSC off (holding the traction control button for 10 seconds), then I would assume that the e-diff is still kicking in.
Can't answer as to what you're feeling, but you can uncheck all boxes for the e-diff and see if that changes anything. Further reading suggests that turning a long press of the traction button (TIMYOYO) turns off asc and cbc so that theory is shot.

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