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      02-08-2019, 01:55 PM   #23
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I'm in San Diego but I could always drive up in a pinch. Don't know much about Ferraris however, the extent of my experience with them is getting a ride in a family friend's 360 Modena about 10 years ago....
Certainly appreciate the offer, man - but UncleWede is test driving it for me as we speak.
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Certainly appreciate the offer, man - but UncleWede is test driving it for me as we speak.
Very nice, glad to hear it.

Also can we take a minute to examine your reputation/post ratio?
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I'm having a hard time convincing myself this wouldn't be best in MY driveway
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I'm having a hard time convincing myself this wouldn't be best in MY driveway
LMAO!

If you buy that car after testing it for me - we are gonna have to come to blows!

Just kidding, of course - I really do appreciate the 'look and drive'. Thanks again!

Love the bike, by the way!
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Does Helena know that you’re trying to buy this car out from under him? I thought he posted a thread about trying to buy this Ferrari
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LOL. FWIW - previous username represented the USS Helena (SSN-725), which was the last submarine I was attached to before moving permanently to NSGA Kunia.
The book I’m reading right now is “Dangerous Ground”, former flyboy becomes submariner... have you heard of it? Also, was watching Seal Team the other night and it was set on a sub... and was a most harrowing plot, you should watch that if you haven’t.
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The book I’m reading right now is “Dangerous Ground”, former flyboy becomes submariner... have you heard of it? Also, was watching Seal Team the other night and it was set on a sub... and was a most harrowing plot, you should watch that if you haven’t.
I've never heard of that book and couldn't find it when I tried to look it up. Got a link?

As for the show - I have a 4yo, so my TV these days is pretty much Shimmer and Shine, Fancy Nancy, and various Disney movies -

I'll have to check it out when I have time, though.
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I've never heard of that book and couldn't find it when I tried to look it up. Got a link?

As for the show - I have a 4yo, so my TV these days is pretty much Shimmer and Shine, Fancy Nancy, and various Disney movies -

I'll have to check it out when I have time, though.
If this link doesn’t work the full title is “Dangerous Ground: A Jerry Mitchell Novel”

I hear ya’ on the TV shows...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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If this link doesn’t work the full title is “Dangerous Ground: A Jerry Mitchell Novel”

I hear ya’ on the TV shows...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oh, cool - I didn't realize it was a Larry Bond book. I enjoy his stuff and have read many of them. I missed this one. Will have to check it out.

This annoyed me in the description:

The USS Memphis, a dilapidated submarine that that should have been mothballed decades ago

The Memphis is SSN-691. My first boat was the Indy, SSN-697, which was launched just 1 year later.

Damn I'm old.

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Oh, cool - I didn't realize it was a Larry Bond book. I enjoy his stuff and have read many of them. I missed this one. Will have to check it out.

This annoyed me in the description:

The USS Memphis, a dilapidated submarine that that should have been mothballed decades ago

The Memphis is SSN-691. My first boat was the Indy, SSN-697, which was launched just 1 year later.

Damn I'm old.

hey as long as nobody calls YOU a dilapidated submarine i think you're doin allright
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Oh, cool - I didn't realize it was a Larry Bond book. I enjoy his stuff and have read many of them. I missed this one. Will have to check it out.

This annoyed me in the description:

The USS Memphis, a dilapidated submarine that that should have been mothballed decades ago

The Memphis is SSN-691. My first boat was the Indy, SSN-697, which was launched just 1 year later.

Damn I'm old.

Lol... well, if it’s any consolation the “dilapidated “ state was part of the story line and plot... I’’m older than you, btw, and I won’t disclose the state of the aircraft of our wing... I’ll just say that mothballs would be a step up.
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It seems 360 Modenas are quite "affordable" nowadays.
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Thanks. It's down to either this one or another in Austin that I had a friend of Sakr look at for me.
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It seems 360 Modenas are quite "affordable" nowadays.
Yep. A nice one sits around 80K or so, add another 15 if you want it gated.

If properly maintained, running costs should be around $1/mi at the max. No real depreciation anymore.
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Yep. A nice one sits around 80K or so, add another 15 if you want it gated.

If properly maintained, running costs should be around $1/mi at the max. No real depreciation anymore.
"gated"? What's that?
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Thanks. It's down to either this one or another in Austin that I had a friend of Sakr look at for me.
I wonder if the F430 and 458 will follow a similar trend. I'm quite young so I wouldn't be thinking of such a purchase for at least a couple decades. I'm curious of the market shift to EVs will make current Ferraris even more valuable on the used market in 20+ yrs.
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Yep. A nice one sits around 80K or so, add another 15 if you want it gated.

If properly maintained, running costs should be around $1/mi at the max. No real depreciation anymore.
"gated"? What's that?
Six speed gated manual vs F1 automated manual.
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"gated"? What's that?
He's talking about the gates of driving pleasure felt through the motion of shifting an Italian manual gearbox.



Edit: Beat me to it, but yes, gated manual. A moment of silence for their demise.
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Six speed gated manual vs F1 automated manual.
Man, that's a serious up-charge for the manual.

You are going to be the talk of Tennessee in your drop top Ferrari! I'm totally jealous!
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I wonder if the F430 and 458 will follow a similar trend. I'm quite young so I wouldn't be thinking of such a purchase for at least a couple decades. I'm curious of the market shift to EVs will make current Ferraris even more valuable on the used market in 20+ yrs.
Well, I'm only 42 - so not too old yet, either. It seems that in general, Ferrari's tend to bottom out at around the 60-80K mark, assuming low miles and nice condition, and then begin to rebound with time. The only exceptions to this are the random 'not a real Ferrari' models that show up. Even these are starting to tick upward (think Mondail).

Right now the two you mentioned have some strong things going for them. The F430 was the last mid-engined Ferrari ever made with a manual, and quite rare at that with only a 10% take rate. The last Ferrari made with a manual, period, was the 599 - 30 were made worldwide with the last one selling recently for $685,000.

The 458 (which I've driven at length and absolutely love but cannot afford) was the last of the Naturally Aspirated V8 mid engines Ferrari - this does, and will likely continue to do so, command a decent premium. This car's value will likely not drop too much further before starting to rise.



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Man, that's a serious up-charge for the manual.

You are going to be the talk of Tennessee in your drop top Ferrari! I'm totally jealous!
Ha - the plan is to hopefully keep this at a low profile to those I work with....

Yeah - the manual's bring serious bucks. I'd rather have one, but the price increase is rather dramatic and they are quite a bit more difficult to sell, since the market is so much smaller.

I only plan on keeping this car for a short while - it's somewhat of an experiment - so I need it sell when I'm ready. I posted a thread about all this in the Ferrari forums you are welcome to read, if bored.
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