Top Gear uses gruelling car chase to test BMW (1m), Porsche

[e82m_van]

Just gonna leave this here..
Sorry if it's a repost.


Article:
http://driving.ca/bmw/auto-news/ente...t-bmw-porsche/


Video:

[Stohlen]

quite an old episode really.

[eeghie]

Thx for posting as I never saw it (now I can safely say that I never missed seeing it )

That is some hyper entertainment approach (vs real world relevant information). Notwithstanding TG's car review style, around may 2011, JC's first review of the 1M without a single critique, was my final confirmation to get it without a test drive.

[Robin_NL]

Never seen this one so thanks.

I don't think that an offroader in the grass actually is as fast as a 1M on tarmac lol. Or is it a Dakar specced Bowler like thing?

Is Hammond wearing a 16610 or a 116610 LN?
I can't tell, he 's weaving his hands around like he's trying to swim the Pacific...

Cheers
Robin

[flzrider]

Never seen it, thanks for posting.

But watching this video makes me realize how little I like Top Gear's "entertaining" approach to car reviews/journalism. I much prefer seeing Chris Harris talk about the car details as he drives it near the limit. He really makes you feel like you're in the drivers seat.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by flzrider

Never seen it, thanks for posting.

But watching this video makes me realize how little I like Top Gear's "entertaining" approach to car reviews/journalism. I much prefer seeing Chris Harris talk about the car details as he drives it near the limit. He really makes you feel like you're in the drivers seat.

i dislike chris harris' reviews. he takes himself way too seriously......i'd rather drive cars myself to see if i like it rather than to hear a puffed up journalist tell me what to think. Top Gear, on the other hand, is more for entertainment.....mindless entertainment! lol.

[flzrider]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

i dislike chris harris' reviews. he takes himself way too seriously......i'd rather drive cars myself to see if i like it rather than to hear a puffed up journalist tell me what to think. Top Gear, on the other hand, is more for entertainment.....mindless entertainment! lol.

You'd rather drive a car yourself than see or hear journalist do the same?! Shocker!

[Artemis]

Thx for posting. I had not seen it yet.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by flzrider

You'd rather drive a car yourself than see or hear journalist do the same?! Shocker!

I feel like too many people are way too influenced by reviews and what OTHER people say----which is how so many people live their lives. Most people just buy the gospel of others having never experience those things themselves......i find that utterly pointless. Case in point---the peeps who watch 'serious' auto reviewers and then argue as if they ALL have that sort of experience driving those cars. Living vicariously though someone else to the Nth degree....

Entertainment, on the other hand, is a light bit of variety....not to interfere with an experience but to add to it.

[flzrider]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

I feel like too many people are way too influenced by reviews and what OTHER people say----which is how so many people live their lives. Most people just buy the gospel of others having never experience those things themselves......i find that utterly pointless. Case in point---the peeps who watch 'serious' auto reviewers and then argue as if they ALL have that sort of experience driving those cars. Living vicariously though someone else to the Nth degree....

Entertainment, on the other hand, is a light bit of variety....not to interfere with an experience but to add to it.

There were some special circumstances where one doesn't have the opportunity to drive a car before purchase. I'd guess nearly all 1M owners here, myself included, have some experience with that. I bought the car and flew all the way to Germany without ever even seeing a 1M!

[Simsims]

Originally Posted by flzrider

There were some special circumstances where one doesn't have the opportunity to drive a car before purchase. I'd guess nearly all 1M owners here, myself included, have some experience with that. I bought the car and flew all the way to Germany without ever even seeing a 1M!

same here

wasn't sure if i made a good decision even on the flight there.

but as soon as the car's engine turned over i was in for a big grin.

there were people filming/taking pictures from the overpass due to the exhaust notes bouncing off the walls.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

I feel like too many people are way too influenced by reviews and what OTHER people say----which is how so many people live their lives. Most people just buy the gospel of others having never experience those things themselves......i find that utterly pointless. Case in point---the peeps who watch 'serious' auto reviewers and then argue as if they ALL have that sort of experience driving those cars. Living vicariously though someone else to the Nth degree....
Entertainment, on the other hand, is a light bit of variety....not to interfere with an experience but to add to it.

An interesting read:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599859

[godzilla-1]

Got my 1M a few months ago, no test drive required as i knew exactly what it would be like and i wasnt disappointed. Part of that conclusion was from the fact that every review raved about it!!! people that dont really know about cars rely on journalists reviews, for us petrolheads they just back up what we already thought.

[Jay-K]

yeaaaa

[02rsxpilot]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

I feel like too many people are way too influenced by reviews and what OTHER people say----which is how so many people live their lives. Most people just buy the gospel of others having never experience those things themselves......i find that utterly pointless. Case in point---the peeps who watch 'serious' auto reviewers and then argue as if they ALL have that sort of experience driving those cars. Living vicariously though someone else to the Nth degree....

Entertainment, on the other hand, is a light bit of variety....not to interfere with an experience but to add to it.

I have to agree with this. Case in point is how just about everyone on the 1er forum complains about understeer, even people who just drive on the street. The genesis of this idea is almost entirely from Randy Probst's review for Motortrend back in 2009. One half of those folks seem to never have bothered realizing that a professional driver on a race track and them taking a highway on/off-ramp are not even close to the same thing (you would not experience the understeer in the latter because you are not at the limit of traction). The other half use their anecdotal evidence of their track/autox experience as their proof, despite the reality that the most likely culprit of their issues stems from their own driving habits and abilities, not the car's.