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      06-28-2007, 06:05 PM   #67
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Now that some of BMW Centers saw the 1-Series Coupe this past week in Dallas I am hearing probably $35k for a 135i. By the time you add the desirable options you'll be looking at $40k + .
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      06-28-2007, 06:11 PM   #68
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So now that the much predicted model line up is officially confirmed, should we go back to guessing how much it will cost?

tdc was correct in his information that the 135i will come standard with M sports and 6 piston brakes, so now it seems very likely that his (very optimistic) info on pricing would turn out to be true. That is, under $35K for the 135i with M sports and brembo standard.

C&D also predicts that it will come in at $32~33K, which is in line with what tdc said. Then how much will a 128i cost? C&D predicts $27K, with the gap between the two models being $5~6K. I would believe this IF M sport and brembo was not standard on the 135i, but with those two pricy options as well as the extra 70HP, I find it hard to believe that the gap would be so small.

Think about it, you add up the sports pack to a $27K base 128i, and throw in xenon and logic 7 that will probably come standard in a 135i, and you get a $30K 128i. Which in itself is not so bad, but then there will only be $2~3K gap between that and a 135i, which has massively superior gears from powertrain to suspension to brakes. This is certainly not the case between 328i vs. 335i.

Anything's possible I guess, but if this really turns out to be the case then I just might overspend a little and get the 135i.
This is what I'm starting to think as well. Even if the 128i comes in at around $25k-$27k, you've got a $30k+ car with the M sports package and a few other things. The 135i at around $32k WILL be in my garage.
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      06-28-2007, 06:19 PM   #69
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This is what I'm starting to think as well. Even if the 128i comes in at around $25k-$27k, you've got a $30k+ car with the M sports package and a few other things. The 135i at around $32k WILL be in my garage.
Yep, that's it in a nutshell. The price gap between the two cars in these projections sort of begs the question, "why would you get a 128 with a couple options when the buyer can climb into the 135 for 2-3k more?"

Which makes me wonder if those 135 prices being quoted are anywhere near being correct.

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      06-28-2007, 06:37 PM   #70
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Yep, that's it in a nutshell. The price gap between the two cars in these projections sort of begs the question, "why would you get a 128 with a couple options when the buyer can climb into the 135 for 2-3k more?"

Which makes me wonder if those 135 prices being quoted are anywhere near being correct.
That's why I agree that it will start around 35K, and end up close to 40K with a few options, although things like active steering, navi, and idrive aren't at all on my list of must-haves. I didn't get them on my E92--won't get them on the 1er either.

BTW--what "E" will this be? E88? Thought I saw that somewhere...
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I predicted months ago there would be a 128i and 135i. I now predict the price should be 27k for the 128i, and 34k for the 135i.
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What do you guys think about active steer? Does it add a lot of weight? Is it worth it?
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I know exactly what you mean--I have already heard people saying, in re: to the 1er coupe, "that would be a rockin nice car for my WIFE" and I am like WTF????
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After reading the news today in the automotive blogosphere and catching up on the spec, all I have to say is Whoaaa.

I think I want one. I already have too many cars and plan to buy a few others next year but this is definitely on my list.

I will probably buy this for my wife but I would love to drive this everyday for errands. It is just an excuse for her to sell her car and get a new one.

This car has the potential to attract all sort of people. Old, Young, etc.
I'm not particularly a BMW fan. I like their older pre bangle cars but this sure caught my attention real quick. I am hoping the range topping 135i with nav and xenon are under $35K.

Decisions. Decisions. My car interests for next year is all over the map - Jaguar XF, Cayman S, Elise, new Challenger, and even the Pontiac G8.

But I like the idea of a small run-about performance saloon. Especially like the idea of what people call a lower "faux" BMW. I don't care too much for the 3 series because of size and weight. I'm definitely not buying one for the badge because I could afford cars twice its price. I could care less about what people's perception of the vehicle is. If the 135i is as fun to drive and as fast as I think it is, BMW has a winner.

I will definitely consider this car after driving it.
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      06-28-2007, 08:43 PM   #74
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Base price of a 328i coupe is $35,300 USD

A 328i coupe with just Sport, Premium, and NAV comes in at $42,425 USD. (no metallic paint, either)

Base price of a 335i coupe starts at a paltry $40,800 USD.

A 335i with the same options is $47,325 USD.

So why would anyone in their right mind get the 328i over a base 335i? Because they feel they're getting more stuff even though it's $2,000 more. To get the same stuff in a 335i, they'd be paying over $5k more (which just happens to be the difference in the base pricing - but people tend to gloss over that for some reason)

The same will be apply to the 1-series. Figure base prices of $28-30k for the 128i and $33-35k for the 135i.
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Base price of a 328i coupe is $35,300 USD

A 328i coupe with just Sport, Premium, and NAV comes in at $42,425 USD. (no metallic paint, either)

Base price of a 335i coupe starts at a paltry $40,800 USD.

A 335i with the same options is $47,325 USD.

So why would anyone in their right mind get the 328i over a base 335i? Because they feel they're getting more stuff even though it's $2,000 more. To get the same stuff in a 335i, they'd be paying over $5k more (which just happens to be the difference in the base pricing - but people tend to gloss over that for some reason)

The same will be apply to the 1-series. Figure base prices of $28-30k for the 128i and $33-35k for the 135i.
As you just pointed out, the base price difference between models in 3 series line up is around $5K. So why wouldn't the same price gap seems strange in the 1er?

Because in 3er we are talking $5K between a base 328i and a base 335i, with the 335i having some minor options like xenon and logic 7 standard. With the 1, we are taking $5K between a base 128i and a full on M sports 135i with M suspension and Brembo.

I don't know why this doesn't strike you as unlikely. I am not doubting your number on the 135i. Rather, I'm wondering how low the 128i will have to go to have a sensible pricing structure.
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Figure base prices of $28-30k for the 128i and $33-35k for the 135i.
+1 Maybe more since The M Sport Pkg will be standard on a 135i. I going to say a $5-7K difference between a 128i & the 135i.
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      06-28-2007, 09:30 PM   #77
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It doesn't strike me as strange because that's just how BMW likes to price things out between models in a Series. I don't see why they would turn away from their normal pricing scheme just because the 135i has a few more goodies standard.

The 330Ci had more goodies compared to the 325Ci as well.

- A full dual exhaust system (the 330 had two pipes running the entire length of the system while the 325 joined together into a single pipe towards the muffler)

- Larger brakes and rotors

- More powerful engine

When you compare it to the differences in the 1-series models it's very similar.

135i will have the following standard compared to the 128i:

- M-sport kit

- Larger brakes and rotors

- More powerful engine

Right on line with how BMW has always done things. :biggrin:
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I am predicting 27k for the 128i and 34k for the 135i. Regardless of the pricing, I am going to the dealership on saturday to put my name on the list :thumbup: .
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      07-01-2007, 01:52 PM   #79
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ok here's how I figure it, maybe someone already did this but I'm going with the 27k base for the 128i off the UK prices.

right now the 1 series base (3 door) is 17,815£ and the 3series base is 20,735£ the American 3 series starts at $32,400

17,815 X
20,735 32,400

X= $27,837 for the base model
however at the same ratio the 135 would start at $41,228, which I think is too high, b/c then I would just get the 335i.

I did a little price comparison (am I trying too hard?)

US comparison of (non convertible) main line models
3 series
base low $32,400
base hi $40,800

5 series
base low $44,300
base hi $58,500

6 series
base low $74,700
base hi $74,700

7 series
base low $75,800
base hi $122,600

So my guess is that it should fall inline in the front as
1 series
base low $27,400
base hi $32,800

I'm assuming they want to cover more market area with their lines. They will sell more cars if they cover more market price points, while maintaining the higher price = value to the BMW name.
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      07-01-2007, 04:35 PM   #80
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You're quoting 328 SEDAN pricing which is $3000 LESS than the COUPE.

Apples to oranges.

328i COUPE pricing starts at $35,300

A 335i coupe is 40,800 and a 528i starts at 44,300. That's nearly a $4,000 difference between the highest model of a lower series to the lowest model of a higher series.

Knowing that BMW likes to keep in line with how they've done things in the past, it's pretty safe to say there is going to be a noticeable difference in base pricing between a 135i and a 328i coupe. My guess is a $3000 difference putting the base price of a 135i at $32k.
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Knowing that BMW likes to keep in line with how they've done things in the past, it's pretty safe to say there is going to be a noticeable difference in base pricing between a 135i and a 328i coupe. My guess is a $3000 difference putting the base price of a 135i at $32k.
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I dunno.... I can't shake the feeling that something seems fishy here.... They sure are throwing a lot of options into the 135i as standard.... Almost like it's a baby ///M. Seems like a perfect excuse to justify a high asking price. I'm hoping for $35k or under, just like everyone else, and I hope BMW comes through, but does anyone else get that feeling?
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I dunno.... I can't shake the feeling that something seems fishy here.... They sure are throwing a lot of options into the 135i as standard.... Almost like it's a baby ///M. Seems like a perfect excuse to justify a high asking price. I'm hoping for $35k or under, just like everyone else, and I hope BMW comes through, but does anyone else get that feeling?
I have some doubts too. BMW is not exactly known as bargain auto manufacturer and the 135i at 35K seems like a bargain. I'm certainly hoping for 35K or less, though. We'll just have to wait and see if BMW can come through. Unfortunately no one enjoys waiting.
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I dunno.... I can't shake the feeling that something seems fishy here.... They sure are throwing a lot of options into the 135i as standard.... Almost like it's a baby ///M. Seems like a perfect excuse to justify a high asking price. I'm hoping for $35k or under, just like everyone else, and I hope BMW comes through, but does anyone else get that feeling?
agree. i think it's the price we pay for the weak dollar relative to the euro and the fact that smaller cars are less profitable than larger ones because they don't cost that much less to produce. loading it up is how they're restoring profitability to it.
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It's going to be a delicate balance of pricing. The 135 will need to be cheaper than an e92 but doesn't need to be cheaper than a 328i.

Keep in mind a 328i sedan can range from 32k-50+k with options.

As odd a sit may seem the 135i and 2009 Camaro are my number 1&2 choices for my next car.
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As odd a sit may seem the 135i and 2009 Camaro are my number 1&2 choices for my next car.
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I'm leaning heavily towards a 135i, but also keeping in the back of my mind the Challenger and maybe a secondhand Elise....
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