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      08-11-2018, 01:16 PM   #1
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So my e90 was in a wreck and looking to buy a 135i. So my grandmother has a 2011 135i and the headlights have the LCI "eyebrow" on it. But there's a dealer that has a 2011 135 and the headlights do not have it. What's up with the 2011? Also 2011 is all n55 if I'm correct?
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The 2011 135i did not have the LCI headlights with the eyebrows. The LCI facelift came in 2012. If your grandmother's 135i has the eyebrows, either they were added or it's not a 2011.

And yes, the 2011 has the N55. N55 came in MY 2011-2013. N54 was 2008-2010.
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My 2011 with mfg date of Sept. 2010 (so an early 2011 production) has n55 & DCT but does not have the LCI eyebrows. They are the auto leveling bi xenon adaptive lights so maybe bmw has some leftovers to use up(?) The headlights came later in either mid 2011 or 2012 MY.

2011 is the facelift year tho.
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The 2011 135i did not have the LCI headlights with the eyebrow. The LCI facelift came in 2012. If your grandmother's 135i has the eyebrows, either they were added or it's not a 2011.

And yes, the 2011 has the N55. N55 came in MY 2011-2013. N54 was 2008-2010.
My 2011 is the face lifted LCI in every respect except the headlights. I'm wondering if they were a late 2011 change. Or his Grammy may have a 2012.
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My 2011 is the face lifted LCI in every respect except the headlights.
Here is the announcement for official LCI (facelift) for Model Year 2012.

MY 2011 135i got the N55 engine and the DCT.

The larger rear view mirrors came in MY 2010.
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The 2011 135i did not have the LCI headlights with the eyebrows. The LCI facelift came in 2012. If your grandmother's 135i has the eyebrows, either they were added or it's not a 2011.

And yes, the 2011 has the N55. N55 came in MY 2011-2013. N54 was 2008-2010.
Ok thanks for confirming the engine . I'm in Canada if that makes a difference. But it's strange because many dealers here selling 2011's will have LCI headlights but no LCI taillights. And then some 2011's don't have either. Finding it really confusing
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Ok thanks for confirming the engine . I'm in Canada if that makes a difference. But it's strange because many dealers here selling 2011's will have LCI headlights but no LCI taillights. And then some 2011's don't have either. Finding it really confusing
Yes, that does sound confusing. Maybe it's different in Canada. There are several Canadian members here and maybe they can chime in and give us an explanation about some cars having LCI headlights but not the LCI taillights.

BTW, the pic below is the LCI taillights, not to be confused with the blackline taillights, which look the same only darker.
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My 2011 is the face lifted LCI in every respect except the headlights.
Here is the announcement for official LCI (facelift) for Model Year 2012.

MY 2011 135i got the N55 engine and the DCT.

The larger rear view mirrors came in MY 2010.
Yep. Everything but the LCI headlights & tail lights.
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it's so weird how the 2011 1M got the LCI lights and eyebrows but the 135i didn't??
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Yep. Everything but the pre LCI headlights & tail lights.
Your post is confusing because you say "everything but the pre LCI headlights & tail lights," yet you have a 2011 with the pre-LCI headlights and taillights. lol

Again, the official Model Year for the LCI (facelift) was 2012.
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Yep. Everything but the pre LCI headlights & tail lights.
Your post is confusing because you say "everything but the pre LCI headlights & tail lights," yet you have a 2011 with the pre-LCI headlights and taillights. lol

Again, the official Model Year for the LCI (facelift) was 2012.
Actually BMW is confusing. They brought out the n55, big dumbo mirrors, DCT all in 2011. Then they add some lights and call it a Life Cycle Impulse. Seems the upgrade happened in 2011 not 2012.
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Actually BMW is confusing. They brought out the n55, big dumbo mirrors, DCT all in 2011. Then they add some lights and call it a Life Cycle Impulse. Seems the upgrade happened in 2011 not 2012.
The larger mirrors came in 2010, so they just added/changed things kind of randomly.
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Actually BMW is confusing. They brought out the n55, big dumbo mirrors, DCT all in 2011. Then they add some lights and call it a Life Cycle Impulse. Seems the upgrade happened in 2011 not 2012.
The larger mirrors came in 2010, so they just added/changed things kind of randomly.
Yes but I'm sure you agree that the motor n55 and non progressive front springs are a bigger upgrade than light clusters.
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Yes but I'm sure you agree that the motor n55 and non progressive front springs are a bigger upgrade that light clusters.
I had a 2008 135i with the N54 and honestly, didn't notice a difference in power. The stock N55 sounded a little better imo. All I know is the N54 is better for tuning and high hp, and the N55 is supposed to be more reliable.

In 2011 BMW changed the rear springs on the 135i from progressive to linear springs. The rest of the suspension went unchanged.
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Yes but I'm sure you agree that the motor n55 and non progressive front springs are a bigger upgrade that light clusters.
I had a 2008 135i with the N54 and honestly, didn't notice a difference in power. The stock N55 sounded a little better imo. All I know is the N54 is better for tuning, and the N55 is supposed to be more reliable.

In 2011 BMW changed the rear springs on the 135i from progressive to linear springs. The rest of the suspension went unchanged.
Yes. I meant changed not upgraded the motor. Agree on all accounts.
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Found an interesting thread that talks about a 2011 suspension change for the 135i with a couple of links in it.

Thought the muff diver joke was kinda funny.
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The 2011 135i did not have the LCI headlights with the eyebrows. The LCI facelift came in 2012. If your grandmother's 135i has the eyebrows, either they were added or it's not a 2011.

And yes, the 2011 has the N55. N55 came in MY 2011-2013. N54 was 2008-2010.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread; I was searching for something else and happened across it.

My car (UK) has a production date of May 2011 and has the LCI headlights (with lighty-uppy eyebrows) and LCI LED rears too. The car is completely standard and it's extremely unlikely that they're retrofitted.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread; I was searching for something else and happened across it.

My car (UK) has a production date of May 2011 and has the LCI headlights (with lighty-uppy eyebrows) and LCI LED rears too. The car is completely standard and it's extremely unlikely that they're retrofitted.
My 2nd 1er had a production date of April 27, 2010, but was a Model Year 2011 car. So even though yours has a production date in 2011, maybe it's a Model Year 2012, which would make it a Model Year 2012 LCI (facelift) car, and that would explain the headlights and taillights.

If that's not it I dunno...

Maybe it's different in the UK.

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My Euro 2011-03 LCI have the lci headlights and lci taillights. I think we got them one year earlier
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Maybe it's different in the UK. :
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My Euro 2011-03 LCI have the lci headlights and lci taillights. I think we got them one year earlier
This makes more sense tbh.
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I have a 2011 135i, build date Sept 10.

It had neither the LCI front or rear clusters.

I swapped in LCI rears, I don't care for the look of the eyebrowed LCI fronts.
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