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      04-14-2018, 09:13 PM   #1
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Cohen is So Screwed

Yesterday in Downtown Manhattan Federal Court, Michael Cohen's attorneys attempted to get a restraining order to prevent the FBI from reviewing the materials they collected from Cohen's home, office, hotel, and safety deposit box. (an action ordered by a Trump appointee from January who donated $5,400 to Trump's campaign)

It didn't go well.

The prosecution said:
“The searches are the result of a months-long investigation into Cohen, and seek evidence of crimes, many of which have nothing to do with his work as an attorney, but rather relate to Cohen’s own business dealings”
Said differently, there's no attorney-client privilege between Trump and Cohen because Cohen wasn't practicing law.

Also, note the words "many" and "crimes". "Many crimes". Trump's personal attorney, whose only work seems to be for Trump (and who's said as much), is being accused of "many crimes" and his seized property isn't protected under privilege.

Anyway, Cohen's attorneys said they couldn't answer the judge's questions about the number of documents seized nor who Cohen's clients were because they didn't have access to him.

The judge therefore ordered that on Monday Cohen must show up in court and prove he was an attorney with clients or it's open season on his shit. (Hint: it's likely all Trump shit.)

Anyhoo, while all this was happening downtown in federal court, Cohen was chillin uptown at the Lowes Regency (seriously - this picture was taken while all that was happening and his attorneys were claiming they didn't have access to him)

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Thank you-funny.
Lets hope we can start to get rid of these thugs that are taking over our country.
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Trump lawyer Michael Cohen under criminal investigation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43761555
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On a tangent, that sport coat is awful....
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And his other "client" is Sean Hannity. You couldn't write this stuff.
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      04-17-2018, 10:26 AM   #6
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NY Southern district is often regarded as the Best USA office in the country. I have experience working with them on a large scale Heroin distribution ring NJ/NY and I certainly agree with that sentiment. I do believe having obtained a search warrant from a federal magistrate they not only have PC to obtain the warrant but more likely an indictment also. If I were Cohen I would start getting my personal affairs in order for a long vacation.
On the flip side I do not have any reason to think or believe this will be any different from the other previous indictments of the supporting cast, simply stated unrelated to any criminal behavior from the star of the show.
Truth of the matter is only time will tell. Can not for the life of me understand why so many people are rooting for our President to fail, undermining our countries credibility and effectiveness at home and abroad. The mantra is that no we are not doing it Trump is doing it BLA BLA BLA. NO you are doing it with all the innuendo and accusations no one has been able to come up with definitive proof of anything other than he won the election.
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NY Southern district is often regarded as the Best USA office in the country. I have experience working with them on a large scale Heroin distribution ring NJ/NY and I certainly agree with that sentiment. I do believe having obtained a search warrant from a federal magistrate they not only have PC to obtain the warrant but more likely an indictment also. If I were Cohen I would start getting my personal affairs in order for a long vacation.
On the flip side I do not have any reason to think or believe this will be any different from the other previous indictments of the supporting cast, simply stated unrelated to any criminal behavior from the star of the show.
Truth of the matter is only time will tell. Can not for the life of me understand why so many people are rooting for our President to fail, undermining our countries credibility and effectiveness at home and abroad. The mantra is that no we are not doing it Trump is doing it BLA BLA BLA. NO you are doing it with all the innuendo and accusations no one has been able to come up with definitive proof of anything other than he won the election.
It's pretty sad isn't it? People's hate for President Trump blinds them and causes them to not be rational. Nothing serious will come of this but liberals and a few conservatives want the worst to happen. Don't wish bad things on people. Karma is a bitch.
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It's pretty sad isn't it? People's hate for President Trump blinds them and causes them to not think rational. Nothing serious will come of this but liberals and a few conservatives want the worst to happen. Don't wish bad things on people. Karma is a bitch.
Your really bringing karma up....? About a guy who is known to have shady and incredibly unfair business practices, multiple affairs, and god knows what else
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Your really bringing karma up....? About a guy who is known to have shady and incredibly unfair business practices, multiple affairs, and god knows what else
You're*

No one's perfect.
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Mueller is going to flip Cohen like he flipped Manafort. He is going after this like going after a crime lord.
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      04-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #12
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You're*

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Well we know that, just look at how many people bought GranCoupes

But really the POTUS should not be this far from perfect.
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      04-17-2018, 12:46 PM   #13
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Well we know that, just look at how many people bought GranCoupes

But really the POTUS should not be this far from perfect.
I don't mind the M6 Gran Coupe.

Maybe you're right but we didn't exactly have many options when voting for our President. Hillary would be 10x worse. I still want our current President to be successful while in office.
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I don't mind the M6 Gran Coupe.

Maybe you're right but we didn't exactly have many options when voting for our President. Hillary would be 10x worse. I still want our current President to be successful while in office.
I can agree with you 100% on that. I would prefer he straightens out and does the American people good of course. But his double down attitude isnít really conducive to constructive criticism.
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It's pretty sad isn't it? People's hate for President Trump blinds them and causes them to not think rational. Nothing serious will come of this but liberals and a few conservatives want the worst to happen. Don't wish bad things on people. Karma is a bitch.
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You're*

No one's perfect.

Rationally, if we're playing that game. A thing is rational, you do something rationally.

I was going to let it slide until I saw you play grammar Nazi, so.....

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Rationally, if we're playing that game. A thing is rational, you do something rationally.

I was going to let it slide until I saw you play grammar Nazi, so.....

Touche. Not be rational*
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It's pretty sad isn't it? People's hate for President Trump blinds them and causes them to not be rational. Nothing serious will come of this but liberals and a few conservatives want the worst to happen. Don't wish bad things on people. Karma is a bitch.
Gee, you don't think this happened with Obama, Bush 2 and Clinton?

Pretty common on both sides unfortunately.

As for Trump, he continues to make enemies out of people that supported him or weren't enemies before. If he could just shut his mouth for a little while and stop pissing everybody off he would do himself a lot of good. But, his ego/narcissism won't let him.

I agree, Karma's a bitch and it is coming back on Trump bigly. He put himself in this spot in his own accord both personally and professionally.
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Gee, you don't think this happened with Obama, Bush 2 and Clinton?

Pretty common on both sides unfortunately.

As for Trump, he continues to make enemies out of people that supported him or weren't enemies before. If he could just shut his mouth for a little while and stop pissing everybody off he would do himself a lot of good. But, his ego/narcissism won't let him.

I agree, Karma's a bitch and it is coming back on Trump bigly. He put himself in this spot in his own accord both personally and professionally.
The first president that I can personally remember was Ike, so I have been around for awhile. I cannot remember any president that had to fight the irrational hate on any level even close to what Trump has - not even close.
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The first president that I can personally remember was Ike, so I have been around for awhile. I cannot remember any president that had to fight the irrational hate on any level even close to what Trump has - not even close.
Well the ones I mentioned might disagree with you. One was impeached and one had a huge number of people that didn't even believe he was relevant based on a conspiracy theory.

When it gets to that maybe Trump and people that feel like you do will have a more proof of this.
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Well the ones I mentioned might disagree with you. One was impeached and one had a huge number of people that didn't even believe he was relevant based on a conspiracy theory.

When it gets to that maybe Trump and people that feel like you do will have a more proof of this.
Clinton's impeachment was not irrational hate and the conspiracy theory was by a few. Neither of those even closely measure up to the irrational hate of the president today, especially through the media.
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The first president that I can personally remember was Ike, so I have been around for awhile. I cannot remember any president that had to fight the irrational hate on any level even close to what Trump has - not even close.
The first memory I have of a president is from the funeral of Kekkonen. That's pretty much why I am so interested in the Russians since they played us so well.

I disagree on the irrational hate. Most politicians work to gain votes but trump seems to gain from pissing off all the groups no politician would usually.

The rnc seems to not care either so we all should actually be worried about the women voters there. Add black, and Hispanic voters, how is rnc or gop still around?

When has trump talked about any policy? Any law pitched by him in a way that doesn't make the keep your doctor line writer blush in shame for not going further?

Centrism will be the real wave that'll sweep over the world. Nobody wins if you're just swinging from a corner.

On a lighter note: L draw you a card. I'll try to find your email so I can send you pics of it.
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Clinton's impeachment was not irrational hate and the conspiracy theory was by a few. Neither of those even closely measure up to the irrational hate of the president today, especially through the media.
From your perception they aren't/wern't.

But, from many others they definitely were. From all sides of the aisle (moderates from each side of course).
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