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Something in the wind.
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05-22-2019, 10:39 PM | #3 |
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enjoy the 1er as it's the last of the likes of 2002, e21, e30, e36 and e46. soon as you can pull into the charging station and a 7min visit gets you 300miles on a controlled grid. one day e82/88 will only be used in rural or designated off road areas much like horseback riding is currently.
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Inevitable, unfortunately. Enjoy your cars, naturally aspirated or turbocharged, while you can. The good news is that BMW is prepared to stick around for another 100 years, for whatever the future of mobility turns out to be.
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05-23-2019, 12:21 AM | #5 |
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I don't think ICE will disappear organically until at least 2050. They're just too entrenched and indispensable in rural/underdeveloped areas. Their downfall will likely be brought about by increased gas taxes and or registration fees. Human-driven cars also won't disappear until insurance prices them out of reach in favor of self-driving cars.
I wouldn't mind driving an electric car in the daily commute as long as motorsport ranches become much more common and inexpensive. As it stands, a track day usually costs around $250 minimum. |
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05-23-2019, 02:53 PM | #7 |
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An EV 1er seems like a great idea to me. Conmcept in 2009 - why isn't it in production, like, 7 years ago? An EV 1er convertible would be a perfect driving machine to me. I don't need to operate an ICE to have a blast driving this car.
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05-23-2019, 03:37 PM | #8 |
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The only reason we use combustion engines at all is because batteries suck. But that won't be the case forever.
Electric has ideal powerband: max torque from a dead stop, doesn't need a clutch or transmission. Accurate and precise torque control is a cinch compared to combustion motors. Power density is also ludicrously high with several hundred hp available from a <100lb motor. If you actually like driving you will freaking love electric. If you love engine noise, get a job in a generating station or something. |
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05-23-2019, 04:20 PM | #10 |
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Everyone who says this is driving wrong. Wow, moving a lever around is so much fun, and so hard to do...I don't get it. You car has a throttle and steering wheel which can make the car dance at the limit. The pleasure in driving rests in those controls, and occasionally the brake. Shifting should be a complete afterthought best avoided.
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05-23-2019, 04:42 PM | #11 |
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I hear about the demise of internal combustion and it makes me think of the mid 50's predictions from the US Geologic Survey that we would run out of oil globally before the end of the 70's (if memory serves). Like that happened.
But, I also know from my first days in the Li ion battery business to my departure from that area 10 years later that the rate of advancement in technology and economics was stupendous and continues to be so. In the late 90's my boss and I differed over his view that lithium technology would never support power tool demand. And where are we today? My belief is that ICE will continue to be a dominant power source for at least the next ten years but do not underestimate science and industry in their ability to meet the consumer's desires once they are clear (whether that be ICE or electric). Last edited by blue135; 05-23-2019 at 04:45 PM.. Reason: add words |
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Sometimes I like driving my Mustang because it's so easy that I can tune out. It's still a manual, but the torque makes driving effortless. I grew tired of this and missed the actual pleasure of driving. That's why I specifically sought out my 128. It's engaging, high-strung, and commands your full attention--always. Some people just like to work for it. Last edited by Thunderguts; 05-23-2019 at 04:54 PM.. |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUVkVB3SUf4 p.s. I also wear a hand-wound mechanical watch, listen to records, prefer fly fishing to spin cast, prefer playing drums over programming a drum machine, etc., so I guess it’s just my personality. Last edited by duder13; 05-23-2019 at 05:52 PM.. |
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05-23-2019, 08:59 PM | #16 | |
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4,000lbs and a 94 mile range, not too impressive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_ActiveE |
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05-23-2019, 09:53 PM | #19 |
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Shifting is just not that hard. A lot of people can shift as competently as Senna and some with that "fast-twitch" can surely do it even faster and just as precisely. But of those people, very very few have the whole package and can drive as well as Senna. That's because driving and controlling a car is literally thousands of times more complicated than shifting.
Senna is famous because he was really damn fast, won races, and knew a lot about going fast that other pros didn't. He actually understood wet surfaces. Unless you or your opponents are incompetent, shifting while racing is something to not fuck up, not a place to make time. |
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05-23-2019, 10:11 PM | #20 | |
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Shifting isn't hard in a vacuum. It's the ballet of controlling the car with three pedals that makes it more fun, because, yes, it's one more thing to fuck up. Catching fish with a fly rod is fun, too, although I'd be much more successful with a grenade. FWIW, even Lewis Hamilton wishes F1 would go back to three pedals, but, of course, he’s apparently not quite the driver you are. Last edited by duder13; 05-23-2019 at 10:27 PM.. |
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05-23-2019, 10:13 PM | #21 | |
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I will always want a three pedal, H pattern manual in my sports cars. It's just more fun to row gears to me. A lot of folks feel that way. Just a preference.
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05-24-2019, 12:31 AM | #22 |
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Meh. Not worth arguing about. People who want to go faster with minimal effort and input will love electric cars. Those who actually enjoy driving will keep our slow, inefficient, and infinitely more engaging ICE automobiles alive as long as it's feasible.
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