Official 1 Series M Coupe Basic Specs - 335hp / 332 lb-ft tq / 0-100kmh 4.9 sec

ssabripo · 12-09-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by manuelf

Yep: EU weight means:

- 68 kg for the driver
- 7kg for luggage
- 90% fuel

since me thinks that E87 tank has approx. 55 L capacity that would mean 50 kg
So in sum this translates to a dry weight of
1570 - 68 - 7 - 50 = 1445 kg ^= 3183 lbs

keep dreaming!

jmunro · 12-09-2010, 03:57 PM

So its not a direct transplante engine from the 135, its a transplant from the 335is?

NihonX · 12-09-2010, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manuelf

Yep: EU weight means:

- 68 kg for the driver
- 7kg for luggage
- 90% fuel

since me thinks that E87 tank has approx. 55 L capacity that would mean 50 kg
So in sum this translates to a dry weight of
1570 - 68 - 7 - 50 = 1445 kg ^= 3183 lbs

That's what I calculated it to be around.
My estimates came a little closer to 3120 but it's still hit or miss.

manuelf · 12-09-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ssabripo

keep dreaming!

So what is wrong with my calculation?
The spec for EU weight is correct!
So what is wrong with my simple calculation?
Or do you question the statement from Scott saying 1M has 1570kg EU weight?

marcel b · 12-09-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manuelf

Yep: EU weight means:

- 68 kg for the driver
- 7kg for luggage
- 90% fuel

since me thinks that E87 tank has approx. 55 L capacity that would mean 50 kg
So in sum this translates to a dry weight of
1570 - 68 - 7 - 50 = 1445 kg ^= 3183 lbs

not completely correct. 1l of petrol weighs 0.74kg so 90% of 55l multiplied with 0.74 = 36.6kg

1570 - 68 - 7 - 36.6 = 1458.4kg = 3215lbs

cuban335i · 12-09-2010, 04:02 PM

lmao 35 more hp over the 135? that's just sad..

PyratOne · 12-09-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mvaccaro

Maybe they will make a GTS version with the 451hp engine from here http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457707

idea was kicked around on the boards over the last weeks, but seems "no". Not on this 1M anyway.

I was dreaming of that myself - although it would likely garner a $60K+ pricetag

marcel b · 12-09-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ssabripo

keep dreaming!

the formula for the EU weight is correct. weight of the car + 90% of fuel + 65kg driver (don't ask me who made that up

) + 7kg for luggage.

manuelf · 12-09-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marcel b

not completely correct. 1l of petrol weighs 0.74kg so 90% of 55l multiplied with 0.74 = 36.6kg

1570 - 68 - 7 - 36.6 = 1458.4kg = 3215lbs

Touche!

thanks for correction

dbtheo · 12-09-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban335i

lmao 35 more hp over the 135? that's just sad..

have you ever driven a z4 35is vs a standard 35i? Don't knock it until you do....

Mprofiler · 12-09-2010, 04:08 PM

The important weight should really be just the car weight and a full tank of gas. Comes out to be 1499.1kg, which is about 3305 lbs. So about 70 lbs lighter than a 135i based on what bmwusa states for the 135i. Not much of a weight reduction in my opinion.

Pete_vB · 12-09-2010, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manuelf

Yep: EU weight means:

- 68 kg for the driver
- 7kg for luggage
- 90% fuel

since me thinks that E87 tank has approx. 55 L capacity that would mean 50 kg
So in sum this translates to a dry weight of
1570 - 68 - 7 - 50 = 1445 kg ^= 3183 lbs

This looks right, but for US curb weight you want a full tank. So 1570 - 68 -7 = 1495 kg = 3289 lbs

The 135i 1530kg quoted is empty weight. This 1570kg is EU curb weight, so it's actually lighter than the 135i not heavier...

Sugarphreak · 12-09-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban335i

lmao 35 more hp over the 135? that's just sad..

No you are wrong... the 2011 135i has 306hp... so the 1M has now only 29hp more.... oh BMW, what have you done!

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Originally Posted by Mprofiler

The important weight should really be just the car weight and a full tank of gas. Comes out to be 1499.1kg, which is about 3305 lbs. So about 70 lbs lighter than a 135i based on what bmwusa states for the 135i. Not much of a weight reduction in my opinion.

This sounds about right

marcel b · 12-09-2010, 04:13 PM

too bad it is heavier then the 135i. I checked the spare parts catalog and the M3 parts (LSD, drive shafts weigh quite a bit more then the 135i parts.
LSD e.g. is 15kg heavier then the standard 135i dif. The driveshafts are 1.5kg heavier. With that of course you get some stuff then can handle some punishments.

HBspeed · 12-09-2010, 04:13 PM

Weight per BMW is configured the same for all BMW's. No matter how you slice it, this is the direct weight comparison between M models.

BMW lists:

E46 M3 at 1,549 kg. = 3,415 lbs.

E92 M3 at 1,680 kg. = 3,704 lbs.

E82 1M at 1,570 kg. = 3,461 lbs.

jmunro · 12-09-2010, 04:14 PM

so the only money they spent on development is a few cheesy new body panels and brows as well as a ridiculous marketing campaign. I bet bmw spent more money on marketing than on devloping unique parts for the car. I'm a little disappointed, though id still like to drive one. This car is definitely M pure, maybe more of a half breed.

marcel b · 12-09-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_vB

This looks right, but for US curb weight you want a full tank. So 1570 - 68 -7 = 1495 kg = 3289 lbs

The 135i 1530kg quoted is empty weight. This 1570kg is EU curb weight, so it's actually lighter than the 135i not heavier...

the EU weight of the 135i is 1560kg, so in the end it is 10kg heavier. Of course this is without sunroof and any other option!

positiveions · 12-09-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HBspeed

1570 kilos = 3,461lbs

3454 Lbs.

7 lbs less than your estimate. Makes a big difference.

But, I am sorta of excited.

Mprofiler · 12-09-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eatrach73

3454 Lbs.

7 lbs less than your estimate. Makes a big difference.

But, I am sorta of excited.

If you round to 2.2 then you get 3454. However, if you extend the decimal places then you will get 3461.

330CIZHP · 12-09-2010, 04:26 PM

WTF?? 250 lbs between DIN and test weights???

Look at the official DIN M3 weight: 3704 lbs (1680 KG)

M3's tested curb weight in all tests (C&D, MT, R&D, Edmunds): 3600 - 3650 lbs (1630 KG)

The difference between DIN and regular laden curb weight will be no more than 50 KG (100 lbs), if even that.

If 1-M DIN weight is 1570 KG, that means it will have a test curb weight of 1530 KG at the very least, which is close to 3400 lbs.

Considering it is a glorified x35 N54 motor with the same transmission and same 7000 rpm rev limit, it is a rip off big time in my book.

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Originally Posted by igom3

Do you guys read? Includes DRIVER, GAS AND LUGGAGE! That is at least 200-250lbs

Robert · 12-09-2010, 04:26 PM

I think I rather have a slight used M3. The scream and the V8 are simply intoxicating.

jmunro · 12-09-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert

I think I rather have a M3

+6.022x10^23

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marcel b Lieutenant Colonel 132 Rep 1,898 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	too bad it is heavier then the 135i. I checked the spare parts catalog and the M3 parts (LSD, drive shafts weigh quite a bit more then the 135i parts. LSD e.g. is 15kg heavier then the standard 135i dif. The driveshafts are 1.5kg heavier. With that of course you get some stuff then can handle some punishments.
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