1m dyno stock

[zayzay]

does anyone have the dyno numbers on a stock 1m? i should have dynoed mine stock before i modded it. i only have the modified numbers on the dyno.

[zayzay]

i did do a search and i cannot find any stock dyno numbers

[ozinaldo]

What Ian said. Plus, it won't mean a lot to you anyway because none of those posted results will be equal to what your car would do on the dyno that really matters, the one that you have modded results. So, my advice you better give it a rest and just accept to live with an estimate.

Of course, unless you wanna tear down everything you put on the car including the tune and realize a stock run on that same dyno and re-install

Seriously, these seem to be your only options. I would go with the estimate.

[Zuzu]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

What Ian said. Plus, it won't mean a lot to you anyway because none of those posted results will be equal to what your car would do on the dyno that really matters, the one that you have modded results. So, my advice you better give it a rest and just accept to live with an estimate.

Of course, unless you wanna tear down everything you put on the car including the tune and realize a stock run on that same dyno and re-install

Seriously, these seem to be your only options. I would go with the estimate.

+1

Also, we put 3 bone stock 1M's on the dyno, one after the other, and had 3 different results... They varied up to 15kws ATW's.

[zayzay]

do you remember what the estimates are of the dyno numbers? i would like to get an idea of how much horspower and torque i gained with all my mods?

[ozinaldo]

The following link has a thread where first posts contain the GIAC's test car stock and modded results on their Mustang dyno, all results are at the wheel:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559002

It is among my favorite posted results since I almost replicated same results when I was 100% stock on another Mustang dyno. I tend to trust results of some reputable companies more than individuals posting in forums; among them GIAC, Evolve and Supersprint. All slightly different results due to difference among dynos and conditions but I have no doubt that they were performed honestly and in a professional manner. You can find all those in their respective company web sites too just by choosing their specific product for the 1M. Maybe among them you can find one which will be more comparable to your own dyno.

[zayzay]

thanks, i will check each tuners website for dyno charts

[zayzay]

i checked a couple of tuners website like evolve, giac, ess and cobb. i see that a stock 1m ranges from 292 to 295 whp. does anyone on this sight have a higher dyno reading of a stock 1m?

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by zayzay

i checked a couple of tuners website like evolve, giac, ess and cobb. i see that a stock 1m ranges from 292 to 295 whp. does anyone on this sight have a higher dyno reading of a stock 1m?

A "talented" dyno operator can get you almost whatever results you want.

What are you looking for

Neil

[zayzay]

i never dynoed my car stock only modded, so i just wanted to get an idea of what a stock 1m produces on the dyno

[zayzay]

that will be a major headache and cost to remove my mods, put the car back to stock, dyno the car, and then put the mods back

[zayzay]

i googled where a stock 1m dynoed at 331 whp and 362 torque. could this correct? if so bmw underated the car horsepower and torque.

[CarJunkie]

Originally Posted by zayzay

i googled where a stock 1m dynoed at 331 whp and 362 torque. could this correct? if so bmw underated the car horsepower and torque.

That's been widely postulated. There are reports of stock 1M's putting up similar HP numbers as stock E92 M3's same dyno same day. We may be getting closer to 380-390 HP at the crank under ideal conditions. T

There was a thread on this not too long ago, but I am too lazy to search for an answer to someone else's question.

[zayzay]

do you know what that crank hp that you mentioned translates to whp?

[CarJunkie]

You can take off 15% for drivetrain loss. The numbers in the thread were all whp, and were only about 10-15 hp less than the M3, which is rated 400 HP.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by CarJunkie

That's been widely postulated. There are reports of stock 1M's putting up similar HP numbers as stock E92 M3's same dyno same day. We may be getting closer to 380-390 HP at the crank under ideal conditions.
There was a thread on this not too long ago, but I am too lazy to search for an answer to someone else's question.

Here you go: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894101

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by CarJunkie

You can take off 15% for drivetrain loss. The numbers in the thread were all whp, and were only about 10-15 hp less than the M3, which is rated 400 HP.

414 hp (SAE) or 420 ps for the E9X M3 I believe.

Since I am here again! My car was 29 whp away from a 2012 E92 M3, both of us bone stock (well at least me), on the same dyno, same operator, very similar conditions. I believe a "average/normal" 1M makes around 30 whp (40 to 50 crank hp) less than a "normal" M3, as long as conditions are similar and altitude is not too much of an advantage for the 1M.

If a normal M3 ideally can make 420 ps (414 bhp) per BMW and I don't think that there is any underrating or whatsoever there, not even 0.1 hp for the S65 of M3, than a 1M ideally should make a minimum 370 ps (365 hp), if not even more.

I like to stay safe really and prefer to think that it is likely a 360+ hp car from factory. German Sport Auto dynoed a M135i at 340 ps (same as 1M "advertised" power) as a part of their Supertest while BMW says 320 ps for the super hatch. On the other hand, Evolve dynoed both and their results show advertised 20 ps difference is absolutely there, same for the torque, which means that if Sport Auto would also dyno a 1M at the same day that they dynoed the M135i they would very likely find that 1M makes 360 ps. Simple logic.

Torque: My stock wtq was equal to GIAC's at 347 something lb.ft on a Mustang dyno which should be good for 400 lb.ft flat (542 nm) "crank" torque vs the advertised figure of 369lb.ft/500nm.

360 hp and 400 lb.ft "crank" seems more than believable and plausible numbers for me.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

414 hp (SAE) or 420 ps for the E9X M3 I believe.
[...] If a normal M3 ideally can make 420 ps (414 bhp) per BMW and I don't think that there is any underrating or whatsoever there, not even 0.1 hp for the S65 of M3, than a 1M ideally should make a minimum 370 ps (365 hp), if not even more.

Actually, what are the real figures of the E9X M3 ? If BMW quoted 420ps, you can be sure that the real ps value is (marginally) higher.

See also the May 2011 1M dyno test performed by Inside Line:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...46&postcount=5

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Actually, what are the real figures of the E9X M3 ? If BMW quoted 420ps, you can be sure that the real ps value is (marginally) higher.

See also the May 2011 1M dyno test performed by Inside Line:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...46&postcount=5

Actually I think that E9X M3's "real" power pretty much matches the advertised power. If there is anything that is slim. I never heard of a stock M3 making significantly more than 420 ps. It should be noted that S65 engine is naturally more prone to loss of power with altitude anywhere over sea level, the higher the worse.

[zayzay]

the dyno in which the 1m stock came out at 331 whp and 362 wtr was on a dynojet dyno which reads higher than a mustang dyno. i did not realize it reads that much higher if you are claiming 294 to the wheels. my car was dynoed on a dynocom dyno which they state to be very acurate and reads lower than the dynojet.