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01-14-2020, 12:08 PM | #1 | |
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M sport 128i 6mt-- 3070 lbs (with full interior), 300hp (NA), handling flaws fixed
This is my brother's car. Model year 2010, ~75,000 miles. Factory options: M sport Xenons no sunroof no idrive manual seats 6MT Mods: SuperSprint Headers with Swain Tech Race Coat SuperSprint muffler DISA Manifold EVOLVE Tune TCK DA Coilovers Ground Control Camber plates Adjustable swaybar end links M3 Subframe bushings M3 Rear lower camber link Euro Intake Euro BMW Performance intake BMW Performance CF Spoiler BMW Performance CF Diffuser BMW Performance v1 Wheel BMW Performance Stripe BBS RGRs with PSS OE wheels with Alpin PA3 F30 Brake Shield BMW Blackline Tails Rear Fogs Enabled Front Fogs Delete CDV Delete BMW Black Kidneys M5 Illuminated Shift Knob Also comes with snow tires on the stock M sport wheels. Both sets of wheels have TPMS sensors. Both sets of tires are pretty new. Battery was replaced in 2019. Car received Mike Miller old school maintenance from new. It passes plug in OBD2 state inspection without any tom foolery-- just like a stock car. The non M e9X and 1 series cars have hugely compromised handling by super squishy bushings, designed to hide the harshness from first gen runflat tires. This car has had all the car ruining bushings replaced with bushings from the M3 (which had no runflates stock), as well as replacing the tires with non runflats (michelins). In addition, all the control arms from the M3 have been added, just as BMW did on the 1M. This car was originally a dealer buy back because it had an "unfixable rattle" in the dash. We fixed the rattle :P A forum member recently test drove it before we listed it for sale. His review: Quote:
-drivers side xenon is not working. Reason unknown, other than that it is not the bulb -the screen on the BMW performance steering wheel is dim to the extent that it is not usable. Supposedly this is caused by a failing control unit, but he never looked into it No pics yet, but I'll get them when I can. $12,000
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Write up I did back in 2013 that seems relevant (why the 128i is awesome):
I originally posted this in this thread, but it seemed off the topic of that thread enough that it seemed reasonable to give it its own. I certainly don't think the 128i is a car for everyone. BMW people, imo, are rapidly being divided into two camps, much like air cooled vs water cooled 911 people. In BMW world, I'd say the dividing line is more turbo/DCT/EPS vs NA/manual/HPS, but these's been many possible dividing lines over the past couple of years and looking forward. Personally, I see it, really, as "fast" vs "involving" Anyway... for those are interested in reading the case for the 128i, two articles that might be interesting to you. The first is from Mike Miller, who is the tech advice guy for Roundel, as well as a writer for Bimmer and Hemming's Sport and Exotic Car. Jalopnic: Quote:
Personally, here's the argument for the 128i from my perspective: -sub 3100 lb curb weight with wheel and non runflat tires alone (230 lbs stock vs stock compared to a 135-- a combination of the all alu/magnesium N52, lack of turbo and support hardware, lighter transmission, and the standard sunroof on the 135i) -closest to 50:50 weight distribution of every e82 -300 HP NA with a factory intake manifold ($300 used, manifold from an X5 3.0, X3 3.0, e9X 330i, or Z4 3.0), headers, and a tune to take advantage of them (doing headers retains the stock secondary cats, so you're not even stinky after). -linear NA power band without any turbo lag -Non M car reliability/running costs -Good handling stock, excellent handling with 1M/M3 subframe bushings -best interior (imo) of the e82/e60/e90-- the buttons are actually still aimed at the driver, think of it! -some of the best seats BMW has put in a car (enough so that they didn't feel any need to change them in the 1M) -Probably the best 6mt BMW has ever put into a car from a shift quality perspective (different trans than the 135i, btw-- didn't need the torque handling capacity without turbos) -can be had without idrive while still having bluetooth/ipod integration -hydraulic power steering with feel -lots of aftermarket support in terms of suspension/brakes thanks to the 135i, and lots of OEM upgrades thanks to... e9Xs, other N52 cars with more power, 1M, etc I completely agree that it's not the best looking car. But... I dont find it mildly uglier than the e9X and about on part with the e60. Styling is certainly it's worst feature. I love the e82 interior, I find the e9X interior... acceptable, and I downright dislike the e60 interior. Other than looks, it very much takes the best aspects of the euro e36 M3, makes the car lighter, and adds modern toys.... which getting better fuel economy and having non M engine rebuild intervals. (said as someone who used to have an S52 e36 M3 and currently has a S50B32 (euro engine) e36 M3) It also avoids ALL of the reliability issues of the N54/N55 cars other than the standard BMW water pump failure. No HPFP issues, no carbon buildup issues (as it's not DI), no turbo failure, brake pistons cracking, etc. It's the final form of the BMW NA I6 evolution, and it shines through as such. It remains, and likely will be for the foreseeable future, the most hp/pound (of engine mass) of any 6 cylinder. The e82 128i, as a whole, is the final form of everything that got me into BMW's originally... and why I have zero interest in any of their current products. BTW, for anyone interested in learning more about the N52/likes to read about thing in depth... I very much enjoyed the BMW training information on the N52: http://lindvigs.com/obioban/spec.pdf edit 2/26/14: From a recent X1 review: Quote:
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01-14-2020, 02:36 PM | #5 |
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All of which begs the question.....why the sale? I literally bought mine a month ago for many of the reasons outlined above, so I'm curious....
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Someone is gonna get a good one here by all appearances - good luck with the sale!
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01-14-2020, 04:10 PM | #9 |
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Great build, great price, and if any of Obioban's builds are any indication and that attention to detail runs in the family, it'll be a great car. FWIW, I sold my 6MT M Sport (no sunroof too!) with ~70k miles about 1.5 years ago and it didn't have any of the chassis shortcomings addressed for a bit more. Great value here.
Wish I had the garage space, 128i in this spec are sublime to drive and quite rare. And as a sidenote: wish I could obtain the F30 brake disc backing plates for my current build. They are no longer built with the wind funnel apparently. GLWS!
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01-14-2020, 04:34 PM | #10 |
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FWIW, Mike Miller is wrong about understeer and anti-roll bars in that article. In a MacPherson strut car, strengthening the front anti-roll bar actually decreases understeer, and you probably don't want to go bigger in the rear without an LSD.
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If your car is set up so that a stiffer front sway increases front grip, I think you should address the underlying issue before fine tuning with sway bars-- raise (and maybe also stiffen) the front of the car.
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01-14-2020, 08:15 PM | #13 | |
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I’m not familiar with smog requirements, but it passes plug in obd2 emissions testing in PA without issue.
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Anyways, sorry to hijack the thread. Cool car!!! Last edited by duder13; 01-15-2020 at 09:43 AM.. |
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As the article you linked points out, "The older the car, the more likely this will be true." I'd also add, the less sporty your car is, the more likely this is to be true-- which is why the examples in the article are 20-30 year old econoboxes, for which camber gain under compression was certainly not a high priority during development. But, what you're pointing out very much is one of the reasons handling gets hugely compromised when people over lower cars.
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It’s never been on track and has been a daily its entire life, so... perfect for that
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Not a chance that it's 300hp. MAYBE 250 at the wheels, at best. E30ROB, a member here, was properly dyno tuned on E85, with an N54 intake manifold and made 252 at the wheels.
Great spec, though, wish one of these was around when I bought my car. Perfect enthusiast spec. Good luck with the sale!
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01-17-2020, 08:25 PM | #22 | |
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I didn’t say, or mean to imply, 300rwhp :P
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