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02-29-2020, 01:05 PM | #13817 | |
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PLEASE rethink this, if you enjoy walking. The better and much safer option is to adjust your seat back, lock the seatbelt and move the seat forward. That will hold you in place and it won't crush your spine like your current setup. |
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02-29-2020, 01:13 PM | #13818 | |
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I just caught that the cruise indicator is working. Did you have to code for it or did it just work? Also, I think I'd seen that the M3 cluster has the shift light intensity thing (green, yellow, red); does that work? |
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02-29-2020, 01:58 PM | #13821 | ||
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HANS is for neck, not compression of the spine. It's still going to cripple you. The problem is the angle of the belt along with there being no crush support in the seat. The shoulder belt is for holding you back, not down. The lap belt is for holding you down, not back. It's done this way because there is no chance of compressing your spine. But even paraplegic's get IG likes so do as you wish. Quote:
Now that is talking about 5/6/7 point with a cage, but the shoulder strap angle is the takeaway here. It's also pretty much a motorsport standard. Last edited by iminhell1; 02-29-2020 at 02:11 PM.. |
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02-29-2020, 02:37 PM | #13822 | |
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Whats the best day to day combo? Recaros and a 3 point?
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02-29-2020, 03:03 PM | #13823 | |
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I meant to just give my opinion of it, and not to argue about it or anything like that. We all do our own research and go for what we think is “safest.” I agree about what the excerpt you posted said, nothing beats a harness bar, roll cage and non-movable race seat with a 5/6/7 point. But for enthusiasts who cannot afford to strip their car and install these, these 4 points might just be a little bit more efficient for its intended use. As long as the OEM seat back is tested, the harness makes use of the car’s safety devices such as airbags and seat tensioners. Just my own two cents. Last edited by $iriu$black; 02-29-2020 at 04:49 PM.. |
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02-29-2020, 04:20 PM | #13824 |
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Interesting harness topic ... essentially paraphrased/plagiarized a conversation from another forum in the next paragraph, but it jives with my thought process. I'll be using QuickFits in my autocross car (cageless and with stock seats for now) - this is my choice (not a recommendation) after prolonged consideration.
'Schroth has claimed that in their experience those fitted with harnesses fared better than those fitted without (3 point seatbelt), cage or no cage. Through tests and research they stated that most injuries during track crashes are caused by the person going out through the drivers window, hitting ones head on the roof once the car has turned on its roof (not crushing, but falling out of the seat with 3 point belts), and impacts from the side - pushing the person out of the 3 point belt (which are designed primarily for front impacts and are pretty useless for side impacts). A proper harness in these situations is much safer.' 'Proper' may very likely mean with shoulder belts anchored at the appropriate angle, but my general interpretation is harness >3 point. I'll also readily acknowledge that modern vehicles with properly worn 3 point belts and a full compliment of airbags do an amazing job of protecting their occupants....it astounds me at work in the fire department at least a couple times a month.
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I have to think that a properly mathed out & installed 4 or 5 point harness configuration will be safer than a street stock OE 3 point configuration.
Properly mathed out & installed being the key here. Both shoulders, and not crushing the spine. Installing a harness, Schroth or whomever, incorrectly, and relying on it as a life saving device is stoopidity incarnate. For grins & giggles I've attached the Schroth E82 install guide.
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Got an update and ETA for the steering wheel. Should be done this week and shipped from the Ukraine. Now I just have to figure out who I'm going to have do the gauge hood and what I'm going to do with the dash itself. I got quotes on full alcantara and leather. Waiting in NRW to shoot me an estimate for full carbon
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02-29-2020, 07:40 PM | #13829 | |
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I read that what makes the Quick-Fit line of harnesses safe is that they have "stretch" section that allows them to hold the occupant in place without being so rigid that they compress your spine. I think it's simply a stretch of belt folded over and sewn together. I did a fair bit of research before getting my Pro version (has provisions for an anti-sub strap), and deemed it safe enough for my tastes. If I ever go to slicks, the car will get a proper cage, harness, and seats to match, but that's a long ways off right now. I still need to be able to daily it
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02-29-2020, 08:13 PM | #13830 | |
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Pretty sure my next outting I'll get talked to about not having a cage. So I'll have to do that, and a fire suit. But these are things I want anyways. |
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03-01-2020, 09:33 PM | #13831 | |
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The belts are DOT approved for a particular usage (in this case an E82, which is the car I'm driving). These are not my everyday belts; and in all honesty, I'm less concerned about accidents at the track than I am driving on public roads. |
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03-02-2020, 09:25 AM | #13832 | |
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I'd daily them if my skin was thick enough to take the pointing. I've never much liked retractable seat belts and much prefer the feeling of being "strapped in".
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03-02-2020, 03:04 PM | #13834 | ||
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As far as the leather option, I was quoted $1400 for full leather wrapped dash by a guy that came highly recommended on from some friend. Goes by Sweidit on Instagram |
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My dash is F'ed. Definitely want to do the dash and all the door cards. Especially if it represents significant weight savings. I'd do it all when and if my evaporator needs replacing.
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03-02-2020, 06:27 PM | #13837 | |
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Be grateful you don't have to deal with the '08 cup holder. Easily the worst engineering idea to come out of Germany
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