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      05-28-2019, 07:55 AM   #89
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Thanks! You're correct about HOAs...which I think serve a purpose but have become a blight on home ownership in recent years because of nearly unchecked power.

We are moving first into blighted areas to improve the quality of affordable home available to those in the area. One of the partners has offered a tract of land of about usable four acres to do a community of about 60-70 homes. We are preparing a study for the area. Because of the proximity to LSU we can actually charge a bit more for these and we are considering a Frank Lloyd Wright design schema. Mr. Wright was a real pioneer in affordable, sustainable housing and his urban designs are quite interesting!

Thanks for your interest!
Love the FLW designed homes I have seen. As for HOA's, this is our second HOA neighborhood and I do like living in master planned communities with the parks, pools, and architectural controls (if done right) because I don't want Cousin Eddie parking his RV in the driveway and emptying the shitter in the storm sewer outside of his pink and purple house! LOL.
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Love the FLW designed homes I have seen. As for HOA's, this is our second HOA neighborhood and I do like living in master planned communities with the parks, pools, and architectural controls (if done right) because I don't want Cousin Eddie parking his RV in the driveway and emptying the shitter in the storm sewer outside of his pink and purple house! LOL.
Lol!

That's always a danger especially in unincorporated areas. My last 2 homes had strong but non oppressive HOAs. The one in Texas was weak and ineffectual and the current one is mediocre. It all depends on the interest of the neighbors and whether or not there is a person seeking their chance to become the next local Hitler. (Godwin's Law achieved.)
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Lol!

That's always a danger especially in unincorporated areas. My last 2 homes had strong but non oppressive HOAs. The one in Texas was weak and ineffectual and the current one is mediocre. It all depends on the interest of the neighbors and whether or not there is a person seeking their chance to become the next local Hitler. (Godwin's Law achieved.)
Anyway, trying not go get off track here. Love what you are doing with these containers and wish you all the success with them. Sounds like you have a good group of intelligent and hard working people on the project so much of the battle is already won.
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I’m glad to see you moving forward with this idea - I know I had some negative comments early in the thread but I better understand what you’re doing now and it makes great sense for the target market, etc.

Years ago I looked into alternatives to stick built homes, and was particularly interested in factory built wall panels (could be wood frame or foam core, or whatever). What I learned about home building was that the foundations are never quite right not level, square, etc, so stick building in the field allows the framers to compensate and deliver a square and plumb home. Solving the foundation issue was (then, I haven’t followed up in years) key to being able to economize on the rest of the construction process. Your approach, using square and true steel containers, bypasses this concern entirely.
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Iím glad to see you moving forward with this idea - I know I had some negative comments early in the thread but I better understand what youíre doing now and it makes great sense for the target market, etc.

Years ago I looked into alternatives to stick built homes, and was particularly interested in factory built wall panels (could be wood frame or foam core, or whatever). What I learned about home building was that the foundations are never quite right not level, square, etc, so stick building in the field allows the framers to compensate and deliver a square and plumb home. Solving the foundation issue was (then, I havenít followed up in years) key to being able to economize on the rest of the construction process. Your approach, using square and true steel containers, bypasses this concern entirely.
No worries!

You are 100% correct on the wall panels. There is a place for them but that is in the Land of Flat, Square, and True. In other words, not the real world, imho.

In addition to the square and true nature of the container, there can be additional tuning to piers or more naturally on a concrete slab.

Thanks for your input!!

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I'm going to put a shipping container in my back yard and furnish it to avoid triggering an assessment on property taxes. When it comes time to sell I'll just take the container with me to my new digs.
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Quick update.

Working with this firm which has over 10 years of design experience on the project. We are finalizing the FLW concept and will use that, the 2x4 Container Home on this site, and another custom plan. I apologize about not pasting actual designs but I'm having major challenges posting images.

https://www.zigloostudio.com/plans-for-sale.html
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Quick update.

Working with this firm which has over 10 years of design experience on the project. We are finalizing the FLW concept and will use that, the 2x4 Container Home on this site, and another custom plan. I apologize about not pasting actual designs but I'm having major challenges posting images.

https://www.zigloostudio.com/plans-for-sale.html
That's interesting - so these guys just model layouts on Revit and sell them so you can DIY it out of containers?

And also - I'm assuming you're looking into energy and all that. I can send you our specs or something if you want to look into what we're using for the net zero housing project? A lot of the energy calculations we do are based on the location of the site and the projected demographic but I'm sure it'll still be useful for you.

Their business model is interesting; we do our designs in house and then send it to Skender so they can manufacture the modules and ship it to us. Our design isn't using containers but much of the structure is almost 1:1 to containers.
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Super cool... one of the screen shots seems to show the house built by Patrick Bradley, in Ireland and featured on the U.K. Show " grand designs" ... ?? the full length video is fascinating and his design is gorgeous.....

I remember he had to do a ton of engineering to replace the structure he removed for windows and doors and also to allow him to stack them with a cantilever design... will your designs include that level of structural engineering? I searched, for the YouTube of that episode; the full episode was available online but now I can only find short overviews .... but if you can find it, it is worth watching...

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That's interesting - so these guys just model layouts on Revit and sell them so you can DIY it out of containers?

And also - I'm assuming you're looking into energy and all that. I can send you our specs or something if you want to look into what we're using for the net zero housing project? A lot of the energy calculations we do are based on the location of the site and the projected demographic but I'm sure it'll still be useful for you.

Their business model is interesting; we do our designs in house and then send it to Skender so they can manufacture the modules and ship it to us. Our design isn't using containers but much of the structure is almost 1:1 to containers.
Yes. Working on that as well as sustainability. I'd love to see your specs for net zero. Skender is a cool manufacturer..how long have you worked with them?
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Yes. Working on that as well as sustainability. I'd love to see your specs for net zero. Skender is a cool manufacturer..how long have you worked with them?
PM me your email, I'll send the documents - we've been working with Skender for 2 years now, but I've only been involved in the project since fall 2018. The idea of getting them to build it came after I met their chief design officer at an event for modular construction, before that they were more of advisors/consultants to the design. Now that they've started building modules for their own projects they said they'd be more than willing to help us out

For the sustainability thing, it's been a while since I last looked at a LEED scorecard but I do remember a lot of points come from site selection (don't chop trees), water treatment (can tie in with net-zero) and material selection. Sadly none of these are cheap options but unless you're absolutely dead set on getting platinum certified you should be fine. Then again the scorecard I worked on for another project was for commercial buildings, I'm not 100% sure on the differences for residential buildings.
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PM me your email, I'll send the documents - we've been working with Skender for 2 years now, but I've only been involved in the project since fall 2018. The idea of getting them to build it came after I met their chief design officer at an event for modular construction, before that they were more of advisors/consultants to the design. Now that they've started building modules for their own projects they said they'd be more than willing to help us out

For the sustainability thing, it's been a while since I last looked at a LEED scorecard but I do remember a lot of points come from site selection (don't chop trees), water treatment (can tie in with net-zero) and material selection. Sadly none of these are cheap options but unless you're absolutely dead set on getting platinum certified you should be fine. Then again the scorecard I worked on for another project was for commercial buildings, I'm not 100% sure on the differences for residential buildings.
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Love them all - this is really impressive. I can see utilizing something like this for a vacation home on the beach or in the mountains. Looks to be a more cost effective build for something like that, especially in places where total space isn't quite as necessary.
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Thanks...this means a lot to me coming from you!

You're 100% correct because the flexibility and variable footprint necessary gives maximum choice in plan development. My chief consultant has about 10 years of working with this type of construction which has really flattened the learning curve. We've scaled back to an 8-10 homesite secondary site test and we are working with planning and zoning on the beta test site.

Everything is falling into space quite nicely!!

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Thanks...this means a lot to me coming from you!

You're 100% correct because the flexibility and variable footprint necessary gives maximum choice in plan development. My chief consultant has about 10 years of working with this type of construction which has really flattened the learning curve. We've scaled back to an 8-10 homesite secondary site test and we are working with planning and zoning on the beta test site.

Everything is falling into space quite nicely!!

Thanks-mk

Lovely - and please keep us all posted. Would love to see the final outcome of something like this. Not many times where a project can be both beneficial to higher income earners (i.e. vacation homes) and also provide an altruistic benefit as well (via low income housing options in inner cities as well as rural areas). Nice to see such a project nearing fruition.

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I'm was speaking with my friends about a project to earn a little money, stimulate the brain, and fill the time. We are a pretty eclectic group, a couple of engineers, senior university administrator (very well connected), pharma executive (me), and architect and a construction project manager/contractor.

After looking at a few different projects we decided to give a hard look and decided to look at housing. Specifically container based housing. We have already looked at basic designs for entry level housing with sustainable characteristics of solar (where possible), water reclamation and rooftop gardens.The total square footages will be from from 1,100 to 1,600 square feet. From our research it could take as short as 3 weeks to complete the smaller sized homes and about 4 or 5 weeks for the larger structures.

We are starting the benchmark project on a piece of property my family has in an older section of town that is being gentrified. I'm super stoked about starting this with my friends and a family member and maybe we can do a little good for entry level home buyers, as well.

Here are a few pictures with the first one being similar to the initial design we will assemble. I welcome any input if anyone has any experience in this type of assembly/construction.
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If you need any additional input from someone in the General Contracting/Construction side let me know.

Really curious how the process goes with these in terms of plan check and permitting (along with approval of the engineering). I know some cities have already had some built so there might be some precedent for that, but generally I imagine getting AHJ approval would be a bit of a pain the first go around.

I could probably do some research to see how others have dealt with approvals in the past, but bringing it up here seems more relevant.
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