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      05-26-2020, 10:47 AM   #1
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EBC blue vs stoptech spec track pads

I need some pads for my 135i and the occasional track day. My main track car is a r53 mini with ducts and significant mods, sometimes the desire to experience torque overwhelms and I take the 135i

considering ebc blue or powerstop track day "spec" pads, anyone have experience with either of them?

I realize everyone has favorite pads, looking for feedback from those who have used either of these two pads
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      05-27-2020, 09:08 AM   #2
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Ebc are garbage, go for Pagid, Stoptech or Hawk.
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I like EBC I've had good results with them on other cars

are stoptech pads the same as powerstop? I think they are the same company but not sure
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I'll throw in my 2 cents on EBC blues.

I used them for 3 seasons with good success. They will survive on track and be suitable for some day to day driving.

There are limitations to these pads and I have since switched to Pagid RS29.

1) Make sure you have good brake cooling, the pads will take some heat, but they wear very fast if they get too hot. I took of my splash shields completely, to good effect.

2)They are sensitive to bedding in properly. Follow EBC's procedure carefully.

3)Even with good management, they wear quickly. At stock horsepower levels and with RE-71R tires, I was getting 3-4 days (16-20 sessions) out of them.

4)They have good bite at moderate temperatures, but when really hot it falls off a bit.

5)Really quite good on the street. Takes a little heat in them to get really good bite, but they do work from cold. An occasional squeak, but not like a full track pad.

6)VERY rotor friendly. The pad is definitely the wear item.

So, if you are the kind of person that really doesn't want to change pads and only wants to go out a couple times, then this pad may be for you. The price point is attractive.

If you have greater than stock power levels and/or are running grippy tires that allow you to brake hard/late (high heat/energy input into the pads)
then these are not suitable.

The RS29 is a far superior pad, but then again, it is a true racing product.
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Ewww EBC, didn't have a good experience with those.

I'll always recommend Porterfield pads: easy on rotors, wear slowly, feel amazing, don't make much noise, etc.

Pagid does really great stuff, too, so I'd say get the Pagid's if you're limited to those two options.
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I run 335 brakes so I'm not sure if they make them in 135 fitment but the PFC-08 is an amazing pad if you want to swap back and forth with street pads and not totally ruin your rotors.
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i ran the "track spec" pads and they worked great, no fade or issues but nccar is not terribly hard on pads
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i ran the "track spec" pads and they worked great, no fade or issues but nccar is not terribly hard on pads
i wonder how these compare to the yellow stuff. how are they on the streetif you tried them? they are dirt cheap.
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i wonder how these compare to the yellow stuff. how are they on the streetif you tried them? they are dirt cheap.
1000 street miles on them and they have destroyed my rotors, kind of like when i run hawk dtc60 on the street

Only ran yellow on my mini, they were fine but do not run rhem below 25% pad they stop working
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how does the bite compare to yellow stuff pads? im on my 4th set and unless i push them really hard they hold up ok.
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These have more torque than my yellows did on my r53 but it's a completely different car and different pad and rotor so you probably want to try them yourself if you drive on the street with these they don't squeak but they really really mess up the rotors I have a brand new rotors with a big lip on them already and they only have a thousand miles
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first im going to try the less aggressive track day PST pad and see how it compares to the yellow stuff im currently running. thanks for the review.
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Like others have said, I would avoid EBC my yellows up front lasted a track weekend and began to crumble - I was driving the car stock with all driving aids prob was the main cause.

Hawks or Carbotechs is what I would run.
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Hawks or Carbotechs is what I would run.
I wont run either of those, hawks dust real bad and carbotechs have failed on me, came off backing plates, I was also unhappy with 10 and 12 compounds, never tried the higher ones I found terrible life and did not like how they acted

st43, 45 and 47 are my favorite compounds
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Hawks or Carbotechs is what I would run.
I wont run either of those, hawks dust real bad and carbotechs have failed on me, came off backing plates, I was also unhappy with 10 and 12 compounds, never tried the higher ones I found terrible life and did not like how they acted

st43, 45 and 47 are my favorite compounds
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Hawks or Carbotechs is what I would run.
I wont run either of those, hawks dust real bad and carbotechs have failed on me, came off backing plates, I was also unhappy with 10 and 12 compounds, never tried the higher ones I found terrible life and did not like how they acted

st43, 45 and 47 are my favorite compounds
Fair enough, agree the dust is super annoying with the hawks though you know you will stop. Carbotechs similar to the hawks just not as solid. Never tried the sts. Anyway Paying $300+ for a set of pads for hpde gets old... I recommend moving to a e30 3 series $200 for a set of hawk pads and stock rotors lol.
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my other track car (r53 mini) has 100 $ pads and 50 $ rotors
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I used the Powerstop track day pads (not spec) for two track days at NCM in KY which has 3 deceleration per lap from ~110mph+. And 10k street miles. No fade during full 30 min sessions while running pilot sport 3+ AS tires. Seem to be easy on rotors too. Been told by others who have driven the car the initial bite is somewhat lacking compared to "real" track pads, seems to be the only downside. But at less than $90 for the front rotors you can't go wrong.

I'm going to 200 tread wear tires and am considering going to the Spec as I'm afraid the non spec will be overwhelmed with the sticker tire. Or maybe the Hawk DTC 60 but more than twice the cost of the Spec pad.
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