Another JB+ Question

IkeaBoy · 10-07-2009, 10:01 PM

I'm just wondering what are the specifics of the adaptation period. I installed my JB+ today and I know it takes time to adapt. Being the pragmatist that I am, I want to know what occurs during the adaptation period. Can anyone enlighten me?

AlBel1214 · 10-07-2009, 10:15 PM

I noticed it most in the higher end... like from pulls from 60MPH+

bbadillo · 10-07-2009, 10:18 PM

Didnt notice a thing til 2 days, about 40 miles later, and it suddenly became a monster

IkeaBoy · 10-07-2009, 10:23 PM

I'm looking for some technical detail. What occurs during this time? Does the ECU need time to be fooled by the JB+? Does the JB+ need to sample multiple driving situations in order to fully adapt? It just seems odd to me.

IkeaBoy · 10-07-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlBel1214

I noticed it most in the higher end... like from pulls from 60MPH+

I felt a little something on my way home from school this evening. Could just be in my head.

BTW, I'll be in Philly this weekend. My fiancee is forcing me to go to the Eastern State Pen haunted house. Any good restaurant recommendations for me?

IkeaBoy · 10-07-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bbadillo

Didnt notice a thing til 2 days, about 40 miles later, and it suddenly became a monster

So it's something you'll definitely know when it kicks in, right?

sr20Driven92 · 10-08-2009, 09:20 AM

If you don't notice it then your doing something wrong... Give it more gas.. that should fix the problem... j/k... now that mine is fully adapted the TC likes to kick in at the slightest touch of the gas... give it a little more gas and it puts your ass back in the seat!!!

bbadillo · 10-08-2009, 02:05 PM

Ohh yea, it was night and day at WOT, but only at WOT. I think its because I have an automatic and itll just shift if i dont drive aggressive though.. but yes, night and day

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-08-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IkeaBoy

I'm just wondering what are the specifics of the adaptation period. I installed my JB+ today and I know it takes time to adapt. Being the pragmatist that I am, I want to know what occurs during the adaptation period. Can anyone enlighten me?

Give it a few days of normal driving, combined with some WOT. It takes a little time for the ECU to adapt.

Mike

HPFREAK · 10-08-2009, 05:10 PM

as mike said give it a few days, but also do the bypass mod I PM'd you.

IkeaBoy · 10-08-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Give it a few days of normal driving, combined with some WOT. It takes a little time for the ECU to adapt.

Mike

I understand this. I'm trying to be patient.

My question is: what happens during this break-in period? Is there millions of calculations going on? Is there a virus being planted in my car like when Zero Cool hacks the Gibson? I'm just curious.

HPFREAK · 10-08-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IkeaBoy

I understand this. I'm trying to be patient.

My question is: what happens during this break-in period? Is there millions of calculations going on? Is there a virus being planted in my car like when Zero Cool hacks the Gibson? I'm just curious.

I think you are like me. I have a harder time feeling the difference because I tend to expect a lot more then the part will give. This happened in my Cobra when I put a smaller blower pulley on it. I thought it did nothing because I was expecting Armageddon, but what I got was the Falkland war....interesting with a short battle something akin to getting into ass kicking contest with a one legged man

No but seriously I know I thought the same thing at first with the JB3. It was a few days until it dawned on me that it was a lot faster. Also if you are doing a lot of city driving like you mentioned to me heat soak will be an issue and suck power away. that is why so many go to a better FMIC. the stock ones just cant handle the extra boost for very long it seems. Mine gets to that point rather fast and then the car feels slow. My Cobra was the same way, and it always frustrated me.

IkeaBoy · 10-08-2009, 09:48 PM

I did some WOT runs tonight and some mixed driving during the day. I'm starting to feel it. I'm also starting to realize that cranking it up to 100% isn't a bad idea.

AlBel1214 · 10-08-2009, 09:52 PM

^^^ Crankkk It Up!

HPFREAK · 10-08-2009, 10:33 PM

Just for poops and laughs I went out did a few pulls on map 3 then put it back to stock and wow the diff is huge I forgot how big. If you can put it back to stock I think you will see the difference then.

bbadillo · 10-08-2009, 11:40 PM

Brad, whats the bypass mod? I think Sunday I am going to work under the hood for a quick hour and put my JB+ to 75%

HPFREAK · 10-08-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bbadillo

Brad, whats the bypass mod? I think Sunday I am going to work under the hood for a quick hour and put my JB+ to 75%

it is just re routing the vacuum lines to the solenoid on the passenger side here is the instructions for it...look on page 12-13 http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...iceBox335i.pdf
This should help

bbadillo · 10-09-2009, 12:40 AM

your link didnt work

HPFREAK · 10-09-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bbadillo

your link didnt work

fixed

bbadillo · 10-09-2009, 01:03 AM

haha maybe its my macbook, still doesnt , says something about not being the owner

HPFREAK · 10-09-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bbadillo

haha maybe its my macbook, still doesnt , says something about not being the owner

weird...go to my site and click on support then click on the download instructions for the stage 1 and 2 below the JB+ one. then go to page 12. Maybe macs internet interface has some sort of security issue with it.

IkeaBoy · 10-10-2009, 08:49 AM

JB+ just kicked in this morning. Beautiful! My Hankooks are roasting right now.

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IkeaBoy Private First Class 13 Rep 195 Posts Drives: '09 135i JB+ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey iTrader: (1)	I'm looking for some technical detail. What occurs during this time? Does the ECU need time to be fooled by the JB+? Does the JB+ need to sample multiple driving situations in order to fully adapt? It just seems odd to me.
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bbadillo Private First Class 14 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 09 Black 135i, JB+ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco,Ca iTrader: (1)	Ohh yea, it was night and day at WOT, but only at WOT. I think its because I have an automatic and itll just shift if i dont drive aggressive though.. but yes, night and day
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HPFREAK Lieutenant Colonel 63 Rep 1,884 Posts Drives: C6 ZO6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (8)	as mike said give it a few days, but also do the bypass mod I PM'd you. __________________ My Youtube Channel
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IkeaBoy Private First Class 13 Rep 195 Posts Drives: '09 135i JB+ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey iTrader: (1)	I did some WOT runs tonight and some mixed driving during the day. I'm starting to feel it. I'm also starting to realize that cranking it up to 100% isn't a bad idea.
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10-08-2009, 09:52 PM	#14
AlBel1214 Major 52 Rep 1,118 Posts Drives: past 135i, now c6, future M3?? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philly iTrader: (0)	^^^ Crankkk It Up! __________________ -----LS3 C6----- *z51 suspension,* *NPP dual mode exhaust(wild2mild),20% tint,* zr1 replica wheels, gloss black fender stripes** R.I.P SGM 135i w/ some mods
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HPFREAK Lieutenant Colonel 63 Rep 1,884 Posts Drives: C6 ZO6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (8)	Just for poops and laughs I went out did a few pulls on map 3 then put it back to stock and wow the diff is huge I forgot how big. If you can put it back to stock I think you will see the difference then. __________________ My Youtube Channel
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bbadillo Private First Class 14 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 09 Black 135i, JB+ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco,Ca iTrader: (1)	Brad, whats the bypass mod? I think Sunday I am going to work under the hood for a quick hour and put my JB+ to 75%
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10-10-2009, 08:49 AM	#22
IkeaBoy Private First Class 13 Rep 195 Posts Drives: '09 135i JB+ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey iTrader: (1)	JB+ just kicked in this morning. Beautiful! My Hankooks are roasting right now.
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