Titanium brake shims

AndyW · 04-22-2017, 01:07 AM

Is hardbrakes going out of business? Their site has "Sales temporarily suspended during our reorganization." on their website. Is there another source? Thx.

AndyW · 05-01-2017, 12:03 AM

So, 213 views, no responses. I'll take that as a "No idea" and and "No" as the answers from the collective...

titium · 05-01-2017, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

So, 213 views, no responses. I'll take that as a "No idea" and and "No" as the answers from the collective...

haha i was patiently waiting an answer to the same question

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tracer bullet · 05-01-2017, 08:08 AM

I know it's old fashioned, but maybe call them and ask?

Suprgnat · 05-01-2017, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

So, 213 views, no responses. I'll take that as a "No idea" and and "No" as the answers from the collective...

FWIW, their web site is working fine today.

AndyW · 05-02-2017, 01:22 AM

You guys crack me up...

And yes, it looks like the site is back up...

titium · 05-02-2017, 02:02 AM

I'm going to thread jack lol

new question ventilated or non ventilated?

AndyW · 05-02-2017, 02:08 AM

I went ventilated.

titium · 05-02-2017, 02:11 AM

hmm wonder how much difference it makes.

AndyW · 05-02-2017, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by titium

hmm wonder how much difference it makes.

Apparently about $50...

nanotech · 05-20-2017, 08:06 PM

Shims for 135i calipers are still not available "during their reorganization".

AndyW · 05-21-2017, 10:29 AM

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Shims for 135i calipers are still not available "during their reorganization".

Well..they were available for a bit, because they are in my "waiting to install" drawer...

AndyW · 07-16-2017, 04:29 PM

So, dumb question: do these replace the stock shim or go in addition to the stock shims?

bNks334 · 07-16-2017, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

So, dumb question: do these replace the stock shim or go in addition to the stock shims?

Depends... they make more than one thickness. I have the thinnest ones and I had no problem adding them on top of the stock backing plate with PFC-08 pads. Keeping the stock shim will prevent the pad from clunking around in the caliper when you first tap the brakes. Obviously, if they pad is too thick you'll need to remove the Ti shims or the stock backing plate...

AndyW · 07-16-2017, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bNks334

Depends... they make more than one thickness. I have the thinnest ones and I had no problem adding them on top of the stock backing plate with PFC-08 pads. Keeping the stock shim will prevent the pad from clunking around in the caliper when you first tap the brakes. Obviously, if they pad is too thick you'll need to remove the Ti shims or the stock backing plate...

Thx! Once I got it off and looked, it was clear they could fit behind the stock pad...plus the stock shim looks welded on. Got the passenger side done...man, having never done this before, it was a PITA...I got the two piece titanium hard-brakes shims so I have two slippery pieces of metal, plus the brake pad, trying to fit them all on the pins plus push correctly onto the spring...all while holding the caliper on my knee...I gotta figure out a better way on the drivers side. Also need to find torque specs...

AndyW · 07-16-2017, 10:15 PM

Success! Both sides done. Second side was easier without taking the pins all the way out.
Feels the same driving, no noises. Next HPDE is next month. Didn't see brake issues last time but will take some on contact temps then, right after each session to see where I'm at. For reference, the torque specs I found were 81 ft-lbs for the caliper bolts.

titium · 07-16-2017, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

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Originally Posted by bNks334

Depends... they make more than one thickness. I have the thinnest ones and I had no problem adding them on top of the stock backing plate with PFC-08 pads. Keeping the stock shim will prevent the pad from clunking around in the caliper when you first tap the brakes. Obviously, if they pad is too thick you'll need to remove the Ti shims or the stock backing plate...

Thx! Once I got it off and looked, it was clear they could fit behind the stock pad...plus the stock shim looks welded on. Got the passenger side done...man, having never done this before, it was a PITA...I got the two piece titanium hard-brakes shims so I have two slippery pieces of metal, plus the brake pad, trying to fit them all on the pins plus push correctly onto the spring...all while holding the caliper on my knee...I gotta figure out a better way on the drivers side. Also need to find torque specs...

assume you went for the 1mm shim rather then the 0.5mm?

AndyW · 07-16-2017, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by titium

assume you went for the 1mm shim rather then the 0.5mm?

Yes, these: https://hardbrakes.com/index.php?mai...roducts_id=136

04-22-2017, 01:07 AM	#1
AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 668 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	Titanium brake shims Is hardbrakes going out of business? Their site has "Sales temporarily suspended during our reorganization." on their website. Is there another source? Thx. __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 668 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	So, 213 views, no responses. I'll take that as a "No idea" and and "No" as the answers from the collective... __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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05-01-2017, 08:08 AM	#4
tracer bullet Brigadier General 2409 Rep 3,543 Posts Drives: '11 135i , '15 X3 35i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN iTrader: (1)	I know it's old fashioned, but maybe call them and ask?
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05-02-2017, 01:22 AM	#6
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05-02-2017, 02:02 AM	#7
titium Major 327 Rep 960 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	I'm going to thread jack lol new question ventilated or non ventilated?
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AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 668 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	I went ventilated. __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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titium Major 327 Rep 960 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	hmm wonder how much difference it makes.
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05-20-2017, 08:06 PM	#11
nanotech Enlisted Member 11 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 08 135i SGM M-Sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitchener, ON iTrader: (0)	Shims for 135i calipers are still not available "during their reorganization".
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07-16-2017, 04:29 PM	#13
AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 668 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	So, dumb question: do these replace the stock shim or go in addition to the stock shims? __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 668 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	Success! Both sides done. Second side was easier without taking the pins all the way out. Feels the same driving, no noises. Next HPDE is next month. Didn't see brake issues last time but will take some on contact temps then, right after each session to see where I'm at. For reference, the torque specs I found were 81 ft-lbs for the caliper bolts. __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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