BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-20-2015, 03:57 AM   #23
lainmike0710
Private First Class
19
Rep
132
Posts

Drives: '10 e82 128i
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (-2)

I am wondering with it being Shell if anyone feels it would be a better choice than the Mobil 1 0w40 LL01?? Any thoughts...anyone....Dackel??? We all know Shell is better than Castrol so I'm just curious.
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2015, 04:12 AM   #24
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
9055
Rep
22,883
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
I am wondering with it being Shell if anyone feels it would be a better choice than the Mobil 1 0w40 LL01?? Any thoughts...anyone....Dackel??? We all know Shell is better than Castrol so I'm just curious.
I have not tried Shell. But I had used the American Mobil-1 0w40 LL1 european oil in my 135i for teh first three oil changes. I then started to read some good reports on German Castrol 0w40. So I tried some(since I do live in Germany, the Mobil-1 oil I bought in base). I was blown away on how much quieter the engine ran on cold start. Must less metallic noises. Plus my oil temp was almost two needle widths lower(cooler). So I was sold.

I am sticking with German Castrol.

Btw... I also change my oil every 5K kms.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2015, 04:13 AM   #25
lainmike0710
Private First Class
19
Rep
132
Posts

Drives: '10 e82 128i
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (-2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone View Post
I have not tried Shell. But I had used the American Mobil-1 0w40 LL1 european oil in my 135i for teh first three oil changes. I then started to read some good reports on German Castrol 0w40. So I tried some(since I do live in Germany, the Mobil-1 oil I bought in base). I was blown away on how much quieter the engine ran on cold start. Must less metallic noises. Plus my oil temp was almost two needle widths lower(cooler). So I was sold.

I am sticking with German Castrol.

Btw... I also change my oil every 5K kms.
But, like you said, in the US, German Castrol may not be the best choice due to the LL04 rating and the high sulfur in fuels here so I'm just trying to figure out what to go with over here.
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2015, 04:16 AM   #26
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
9055
Rep
22,883
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
But, like you said, in the US, German Castrol may not be the best choice due to the LL04 rating and the high sulfur in fuels here so I'm just trying to figure out what to go with over here.
I think as long as you go with a short OCI - whether the oil has a LL1 or LL4 ratingis a moot point. But thats just my opinion. That kind of stuff is better for Bob the oil guy's Blog to ask of.
__________________
Appreciate 3
      03-20-2015, 05:59 AM   #27
david in germany
Lieutenant Colonel
547
Rep
1,525
Posts

Drives: 118i
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Mannheim Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone View Post
I think as long as you go with a short OCI - whether the oil has a LL1 or LL4 ratingis a moot point. But thats just my opinion. That kind of stuff is better for Bob the oil guy's Blog to ask of.
Absolutly correct.
__________________
2009 118i Monaco Blue "Maximillion"
2009 335i Saphire Black M Sport "Leopold" Cobb tune, Mishimoto FMIC, Cobb charge pipe, Forge diverter valves, Cyba scoops and M Individual Audio retrofit.
2011 328i Titan Silver M Sport "Franzel" <--Wife's car
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2015, 12:27 PM   #28
Iron Man
Major
Iron Man's Avatar
United_States
178
Rep
1,026
Posts

Drives: N/A
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
But, like you said, in the US, German Castrol may not be the best choice due to the LL04 rating and the high sulfur in fuels here so I'm just trying to figure out what to go with over here.
"German" Castrol, that being the 0W-40 weight oil now is LL-01 approved, not LL-04. Belgian Castrol, now 0W-30, is also LL-01 rated, not LL-04 rated. (US versions in both cases)

Not sure where you're seeing that either of these oils are LL-04 rated. Or are you talking about the versions of these oils bought/sold in Germany?
Appreciate 0
      03-23-2015, 03:48 AM   #29
lainmike0710
Private First Class
19
Rep
132
Posts

Drives: '10 e82 128i
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (-2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Man
Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
But, like you said, in the US, German Castrol may not be the best choice due to the LL04 rating and the high sulfur in fuels here so I'm just trying to figure out what to go with over here.
"German" Castrol, that being the 0W-40 weight oil now is LL-01 approved, not LL-04. Belgian Castrol, now 0W-30, is also LL-01 rated, not LL-04 rated. (US versions in both cases)

Not sure where you're seeing that either of these oils are LL-04 rated. Or are you talking about the versions of these oils bought/sold in Germany?
I was referring to the German Castrol Dackel is using and many purchase over the Internet. As you will probably see, I asked the question that you kind of just answered on my other oil change interval thread. I made this statement/question before I noticed that Castrol now has this ll01 option at Walmart and any other auto parts store. I am almost positive the last time I saw that Castrol Euro Formula oil, it was NOT ll01...that is a newer situation I think....AND what do you think would be a better choice then, the German 0w40 or Belgian 0w30?
__________________
//'10 128i Deep Sea Blue Metallic//Sport Package//M-Sport Suspension//Genuine BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Strut Brace//Blackline LCI Tail Lights//Adaptive Xenon Headlights w/EAS Angel Eye Upgrade//K&N Performance Air Filter//BMW Assist//Genuine BMW Gloss Black Kidney Grilles//
Appreciate 0
      03-23-2015, 04:27 AM   #30
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
9055
Rep
22,883
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
I was referring to the German Castrol Dackel is using and many purchase over the Internet. As you will probably see, I asked the question that you kind of just answered on my other oil change interval thread. I made this statement/question before I noticed that Castrol now has this ll01 option at Walmart and any other auto parts store. I am almost positive the last time I saw that Castrol Euro Formula oil, it was NOT ll01...that is a newer situation I think....AND what do you think would be a better choice then, the German 0w40 or Belgian 0w30?
It was about a year and half ago that Castrol changed their oil ratings.

I use to use Castrol RS Edge 0w40, it was LL4 rated. Then Castrol stopped making that oil. Its been replaced by Castrol Edge FST(Fluid Strength Technology) 0w40 which is LL1 rated.

I always change my oil every 6K kms, so I think the LL rating is kind of a moot point. I use the 0w40 grade bc it covers a wider temperature range. So that is what I would recommend you to use.

Dackel
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-23-2015, 08:44 AM   #31
Iron Man
Major
Iron Man's Avatar
United_States
178
Rep
1,026
Posts

Drives: N/A
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lainmike0710 View Post
I was referring to the German Castrol Dackel is using and many purchase over the Internet. As you will probably see, I asked the question that you kind of just answered on my other oil change interval thread. I made this statement/question before I noticed that Castrol now has this ll01 option at Walmart and any other auto parts store. I am almost positive the last time I saw that Castrol Euro Formula oil, it was NOT ll01...that is a newer situation I think....AND what do you think would be a better choice then, the German 0w40 or Belgian 0w30?
I would go with the 0W-40 grade. Though the 0W-30 has always been a "heavy" 30 weight.
Appreciate 0
      10-24-2017, 04:02 AM   #32
Texan Engineer
Private First Class
13
Rep
125
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i + ///M Sport Pkg
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: If you can't tell from my handle...

iTrader: (0)

Thought I might make a 2017 update, since I was at the store looking for oil for my BMW and MB, and this thread came up in my research.

German Castrol (GC) appears to be known simply as Castrol EDGE now (same name as the normal US version). BUT it is still the same European formula. Made in Germany, LL-01 approved (also meets MB 229.5, for those who are curious). I found a 1 qt bottle for $8 at my local Wally World, in 0W-40, which appears to be the more common grade these days on our side of the pond?

Also, Mobil-1 0W-40 European Formula has lost its LL-01 rating as of a couple years ago, although it still retains the MB/Audi/Porsche approvals.

For the curious, go read up on BITOG. There are pages and pages of stuff there.



TLDR: GC is now known as Castrol EDGE but look for the "Made in Germany" and "LL-01 " approval. M1 0W-40 is NOT LL-01 approved, but probably still the same stuff maybe.
Appreciate 2
      10-25-2017, 12:02 PM   #33
ayao
Thread killer
441
Rep
1,717
Posts

Drives: 1M
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan Engineer View Post
Thought I might make a 2017 update, since I was at the store looking for oil for my BMW and MB, and this thread came up in my research.

German Castrol (GC) appears to be known simply as Castrol EDGE now (same name as the normal US version). BUT it is still the same European formula. Made in Germany, LL-01 approved (also meets MB 229.5, for those who are curious). I found a 1 qt bottle for $8 at my local Wally World, in 0W-40, which appears to be the more common grade these days on our side of the pond?

Also, Mobil-1 0W-40 European Formula has lost its LL-01 rating as of a couple years ago, although it still retains the MB/Audi/Porsche approvals.

For the curious, go read up on BITOG. There are pages and pages of stuff there.



TLDR: GC is now known as Castrol EDGE but look for the "Made in Germany" and "LL-01 " approval. M1 0W-40 is NOT LL-01 approved, but probably still the same stuff maybe.
Locally, Walmart sells 5 quart jugs of LL-01 Castrol Edge 0W-40 for $27, sometimes as low as $23 on sale.
Appreciate 1
Dackelone9054.50

      10-25-2017, 05:22 PM   #34
tracer bullet
Lieutenant Colonel
tracer bullet's Avatar
United_States
704
Rep
1,890
Posts

Drives: '11 135i , '15 X3 35i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Saint Paul, MN

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan Engineer View Post
German Castrol (GC) appears to be known simply as Castrol EDGE now (same name as the normal US version). BUT it is still the same European formula. Made in Germany, LL-01 approved (also meets MB 229.5, for those who are curious). I found a 1 qt bottle for $8 at my local Wally World, in 0W-40, which appears to be the more common grade these days on our side of the pond?

Also, Mobil-1 0W-40 European Formula has lost its LL-01 rating as of a couple years ago, although it still retains the MB/Audi/Porsche approvals.
Thanks! I was just getting ready to look into this for my next change.
Appreciate 0
      10-25-2017, 11:03 PM   #35
Texan Engineer
Private First Class
13
Rep
125
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i + ///M Sport Pkg
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: If you can't tell from my handle...

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayao View Post
Locally, Walmart sells 5 quart jugs of LL-01 Castrol Edge 0W-40 for $27, sometimes as low as $23 on sale.
Lucky, I've never seen 5 qt GC in my neck of the woods. The Mobil-1 Euro formula here goes for $26 normally, $22 on sale. Maybe it's a regional thing.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2017, 12:52 PM   #36
ayao
Thread killer
441
Rep
1,717
Posts

Drives: 1M
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CA

iTrader: (2)

Not trying to get into semantics because the nuances of BITOG are largely lost on my dinosaur brain but for historical purposes "GC"/German Castrol is the LL-01 0W-30 stuff that was made in Germany. It has had a unicorn-tears rabid cult-like tribologist following and even has its own FAQ on BITOG:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...&Number=718643

Then at some point some people noticed the print on the 0W-30 bottles changed from "Made in Germany" --> "Made in Belgium" which prompted all sorts of conspiracy theories and virgin oil analyses. Around this same time the 0W-40 stuff comes out with LL-01 approval and "Made in Germany" on the bottle.

I used to pick up the old GC @ the local Pepboys but I don't even see it on their website anymore. Looks like advanceauto still has it.

I haven't actually run the "new" GC 0W-40 yet but I suspect it will be same as all the other LL-01 oils: i.e. completely fine based on routine UOAs (including M1 0W-40 LL-01, Motul x-cess 5W-40, BMW 5W-30, GC 0W-30.) And the fact that it's available for cheap in quantity at Wallyworld is a bonus (although I suspect other people have picked up on this because the shelf is always empty.) You can also get it for the equivalent price on Amazon (currently $26 - I've seen as low as $20.)
Appreciate 1
Dackelone9054.50

      10-27-2017, 02:58 PM   #37
ShocknAwe
Major General
ShocknAwe's Avatar
United_States
1868
Rep
6,601
Posts

Drives: E82 N54
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston

iTrader: (16)

Currently using the made in Germany ll01 0w40 stuff. Engine seems to like it.
__________________
2010 135i M-Sport 6MT Jet Black
N54 | BUILD THREAD
Appreciate 1
Dackelone9054.50

      11-25-2017, 02:35 AM   #38
bmw1racer
bimmerphile, technogeek
bmw1racer's Avatar
United_States
707
Rep
3,523
Posts

Drives: 2012 128i E82 6MT Sport
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Castrol EDGE 0W-40 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 5 quart jug on sale on Amazon for $19.98: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JGQLZSU...=10ACCEBNHIOE9
__________________
Appreciate 2
Dackelone9054.50
ayao441.00

      09-15-2019, 09:20 PM   #39
Moosieth
New Member
0
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: 2008 BMW 128i
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: New Mexico

iTrader: (0)

Might seem dumb, but whats the oil capacity of the 128i? I'm new to fixing cars and i cant find it in the owners manual.
Appreciate 0
      09-16-2019, 03:29 AM   #40
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
9055
Rep
22,883
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moosieth View Post
Might seem dumb, but whats the oil capacity of the 128i? I'm new to fixing cars and i cant find it in the owners manual.
6.5 quarts or 6.9 liters when changing the oil filter.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      09-16-2019, 06:12 AM   #41
MightyMouseTech
Major General
MightyMouseTech's Avatar
3471
Rep
5,452
Posts

Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ottawa, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moosieth View Post
Might seem dumb, but whats the oil capacity of the 128i? I'm new to fixing cars and i cant find it in the owners manual.
6.5 quarts or 6.9 liters when changing the oil filter.
You mean 6.9 quarts, or 6.5 L.

Appreciate 1
Dackelone9054.50

      09-16-2019, 02:31 PM   #42
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
9055
Rep
22,883
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech View Post
You mean 6.9 quarts, or 6.5 L.

Ohh yes, you are right. Thanks for correcting me. I always seem to mix up my liters and quarts!

Dack
__________________
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:43 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST