e8x electric waterpump failure poll...

Mr. Toad · 06-08-2013, 08:39 AM

I'm wondering what the data would look like if sorted by vehicle mileage rather than year. The incidence of pump failure could be more related to length of actual use than any specific model year, e.g., are model year 20XX vehicles more prone to failure, or vehicles with more than XX,XXX miles on them?

Dackelone · 06-08-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bozola

Any way to see the 128 vs 135 data?

BTW.... 08 128 66666 miles and still going strong.

Noop. I would need to close this thread and start a new (poll)thread.

96ti · 06-08-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Water pump failure rates so far as reported by us 1Addicts

2008 = 36%
2009 = 12%
2010 = 5%
2011 = 10%
2012 = 0%
2013 = 0%

Siemens was purchased by Continental in mid-2007. My 2008 had a Siemens WP from the factory. The pump I replaced it with was a Conti WP. I wonder when Conti branded pumps started getting out fitted on our cars or if that has anything to do with it at all...

Dackelone · 06-19-2013, 02:31 PM

IF anyone has not voted... PLEASE DO SO!

I can not believe the 2008's have close to a 50% failure rate.

martymil · 06-21-2013, 04:59 PM

mine failed at 60500 km

Also stereo idrive head unit blew up at 61000km luckly for extended warranty.

adevangel84 · 07-09-2013, 03:49 PM

Mine is also on the way out. 66k on a 2008 135i. Fan is maxed out and getting codes 2e82 and 2e81. Got an appointment at the dealer on Thursday. Thank god for CPO lol

Rockstar1487 · 07-21-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

IF anyone has not voted... PLEASE DO SO!

I can not believe the 2008's have close to a 50% failure rate.

Since my first post on here my mileage has increased. I am still rolling strong on the OEM pump at roughly 53k.

I have a theory for the pump failure. Dack we might need another poll added to this thread. I think that we should add something about upgraded fmic's. See who has one and if their pump has failed. There might be a connection between the two seeing as how the fmic helps keep the turbos cooler. So it could potentially lessen the strain on the water pump. My idea could be wrong but it might be the extra variable that we are missing to determine the cause of failure.

Dackelone · 07-26-2013, 07:08 PM

Greenkirby21 · 07-26-2013, 07:59 PM

2009 (car was build in Sept 2008 though I believe). With 35k miles.

No problems...
just hope it doesn't break down before I get my M235i x_x

NOrrTH · 08-01-2013, 05:08 PM

2009 135i M sport

51,000 kms and water pump failed.

No warning, just a yellow temp light then 15 seconds later it turned to red, 95% loss of power and barely enough time to drive to the side of the road. Aftermarket warranty paid for a new pump.

Billup · 08-02-2013, 11:25 AM

2008 128i Premium N52
62,xxx miles & original WP
Just took it on a trip from NC to FL & then directly to MI and back to NC no problems!

*knock on wood*

Ihave1 · 08-02-2013, 12:16 PM

Jan 2008 build N54 135i, pump failed at 55,000 miles.
Cost to replace pump, thermostat, and coolant was $715 from BMW dealership (needed parts the same day). I replaced the parts myself. Not too difficult and you get a free shower out of it!

Dackelone · 08-03-2013, 12:14 PM

I think just by looking at the data/numbers... BMW must have changed the waterpump supplier bc the failure rate was so high for 2008's and '09's... while for later model years its so much lower.

Would be nice to somehow confirm my theory.

JHZR2 · 08-03-2013, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I think just by looking at the data/numbers... BMW must have changed the waterpump supplier bc the failure rate was so high for 2008's and '09's... while for later model years its so much lower.

Would be nice to somehow confirm my theory.

Older cars = more time at temperature.

Would be nice if there is a new and more reliable supplier, and your theory were correct.

Would be good if someone pulling an old broken one could fully document and photograph it vs the new one.

accel · 08-03-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JHZR2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I think just by looking at the data/numbers... BMW must have changed the waterpump supplier bc the failure rate was so high for 2008's and '09's... while for later model years its so much lower.

Would be nice to somehow confirm my theory.

Older cars = more time at temperature.

Would be nice if there is a new and more reliable supplier, and your theory were correct.

Would be good if someone pulling an old broken one could fully document and photograph it vs the new one.

For x28s there's three part numbers for water pumps. Means, they changed it several times. I wonder if the last one actually fixes the issue.

Suprgnat · 08-03-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Would be nice to somehow confirm my theory.

Hypothesis ;-)

dazza_ · 08-25-2013, 11:02 PM

Hey all,

Pretty sure my water pump has just died

Did anyone experience the noise in this video? Mine does exactly the same thing along with the fans on full power and all the other signs pointing to a water pump.

adevangel84 · 08-25-2013, 11:06 PM

Yup its dead. That was the sound mine was making when I did the priming process. Took it to the dealer and they changed it under CPO.

djpeetur · 08-26-2013, 02:22 PM

finally failed at 95k thousand miles.

BrokenVert · 08-26-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djpeetur

finally failed at 95k thousand miles.

95 thousand thousand miles! How did you drive that much so quickly!?

Stupenal · 09-11-2013, 12:12 PM

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pj.rodriguez · 09-11-2013, 01:51 PM

I got my 128i (March 2008 build) used. How do I know if the waterpump has been replaced? Is there something visual I could see or is it a "dealer only knows" thing?

Thanks, and if it is original, No problems yet with 125000 km.

View Poll Results: I own a...
2008 model and the waterpump failed.	175	13.98%
2008 model and the waterpump is ok.	194	15.50%
2009 model and the waterpump failed.	65	5.19%
2009 model and the waterpump is ok.	195	15.58%
2010 model and the waterpump failed.	18	1.44%
2010 model and the waterpump is ok.	87	6.95%
2011 model and the waterpump failed.	73	5.83%
2011 model and the waterpump is ok.	172	13.74%
2012 model and the waterpump failed.	52	4.15%
2012 model and the waterpump is ok.	103	8.23%
2013 model and the waterpump failed.	23	1.84%
2013 model and the waterpump is ok.	95	7.59%
Voters: 1252. You may not vote on this poll

06-08-2013, 08:39 AM	#111
Mr. Toad Second Lieutenant 46 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2011 328i Coupe Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I'm wondering what the data would look like if sorted by vehicle mileage rather than year. The incidence of pump failure could be more related to length of actual use than any specific model year, e.g., are model year 20XX vehicles more prone to failure, or vehicles with more than XX,XXX miles on them? __________________ 2011 328i Coupe \| Alpine White \| Oyster/Black Dakota Leather \| M Sport Package \| Premium Package \| iDrive \| Harman Kardon Surround \| Steptronic
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06-19-2013, 02:31 PM	#114
Dackelone European Editor 10526 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	IF anyone has not voted... PLEASE DO SO! I can not believe the 2008's have close to a 50% failure rate. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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06-21-2013, 04:59 PM	#115
martymil Banned 389 Rep 2,186 Posts Drives: Garage is to big to list. Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney iTrader: (8)	mine failed at 60500 km Also stereo idrive head unit blew up at 61000km luckly for extended warranty.
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07-09-2013, 03:49 PM	#116
adevangel84 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2006 E46 M3 (RIP) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Orleans iTrader: (2)	Mine is also on the way out. 66k on a 2008 135i. Fan is maxed out and getting codes 2e82 and 2e81. Got an appointment at the dealer on Thursday. Thank god for CPO lol __________________ 2008 135i Mods: MHD/AFe/ER/Synapse/VRSF/Berk/Cobb
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07-26-2013, 07:08 PM	#118
Dackelone European Editor 10526 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	__________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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07-26-2013, 07:59 PM	#119
Greenkirby21 Vrooom :) 313 Rep 2,602 Posts Drives: C7 Stringray Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dream Land iTrader: (1)	2009 (car was build in Sept 2008 though I believe). With 35k miles. No problems... just hope it doesn't break down before I get my M235i x_x __________________ 2014 C7 Corvette Stringray - Laguna Blue - NPP Exhaust - Competition Seats
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08-01-2013, 05:08 PM	#120
NOrrTH New Member 2 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Nanaimo, BC iTrader: (0)	2009 135i M sport 51,000 kms and water pump failed. No warning, just a yellow temp light then 15 seconds later it turned to red, 95% loss of power and barely enough time to drive to the side of the road. Aftermarket warranty paid for a new pump.
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08-02-2013, 11:25 AM	#121
Billup Banned 472 Rep 928 Posts Drives: Your mum crazy. Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Baconopolos Island iTrader: (0)	2008 128i Premium N52 62,xxx miles & original WP Just took it on a trip from NC to FL & then directly to MI and back to NC no problems! knock on wood
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08-02-2013, 12:16 PM	#122
Ihave1 Private First Class 42 Rep 159 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC, USA iTrader: (1)	Jan 2008 build N54 135i, pump failed at 55,000 miles. Cost to replace pump, thermostat, and coolant was $715 from BMW dealership (needed parts the same day). I replaced the parts myself. Not too difficult and you get a free shower out of it!
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08-03-2013, 12:14 PM	#123
Dackelone European Editor 10526 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	I think just by looking at the data/numbers... BMW must have changed the waterpump supplier bc the failure rate was so high for 2008's and '09's... while for later model years its so much lower. Would be nice to somehow confirm my theory. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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08-25-2013, 11:02 PM	#127
dazza_ Enlisted Member 5 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2008 LeMans Blue 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	Hey all, Pretty sure my water pump has just died Did anyone experience the noise in this video? Mine does exactly the same thing along with the fans on full power and all the other signs pointing to a water pump.
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08-25-2013, 11:06 PM	#128
adevangel84 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2006 E46 M3 (RIP) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Orleans iTrader: (2)	Yup its dead. That was the sound mine was making when I did the priming process. Took it to the dealer and they changed it under CPO. __________________ 2008 135i Mods: MHD/AFe/ER/Synapse/VRSF/Berk/Cobb
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08-26-2013, 02:22 PM	#129
djpeetur Captain 170 Rep 955 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Plano TX iTrader: (23)	finally failed at 95k thousand miles.
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09-11-2013, 12:12 PM	#131
Stupenal First Lieutenant 43 Rep 347 Posts Drives: Mmm Join Date: May 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (10)	. Last edited by Stupenal; 07-10-2014 at 12:35 AM..
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09-11-2013, 01:51 PM	#132
pj.rodriguez Lieutenant Colonel 84 Rep 1,623 Posts Drives: Alpine White 128i Cabrio Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (9) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i E88 [9.00]	I got my 128i (March 2008 build) used. How do I know if the waterpump has been replaced? Is there something visual I could see or is it a "dealer only knows" thing? Thanks, and if it is original, No problems yet with 125000 km.
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