GAUGING INTEREST FOR: lip

bp05 · 06-01-2016, 10:34 AM

Anyone interested in a lip?

It will be made out of FRP.

I currently have one on my car (pictured).

I am in the process of acquiring the mold. If that falls through, I will be making a mold out of mine.

Wanting to give access to anyone here first, before posting it up on eBay and Amazon.

First batches will be FRP. I can start experimenting later with CF overlay, full CF, then if justifiable PU lips.

Update 06/01/2016:
Good news! The mold looks good and I will be purchasing it.

I'd like to really know who's interested in the lip!

The replica lip shown on my car is a two layer FRP spec. I will be following the same specs for this first run.

I will be sanding the lips and putting on a simple black primer.

This will be made to order.

After I buy the mold, I will start buying the supplies needed (fiber mat, fiber cloth, resin, PVA, wax, etc..).

Lets get a group buy going! I'll look at the rules for group buys for this forum and update here again! Please PM or post a comment if you're more than very interested.

Pricing not available yet. Guesstimating range is $200 + shipping as the highest.

135ivert · 06-01-2016, 11:26 AM

What is FRP?

Marc08EX · 06-01-2016, 11:40 AM

How does it mount to the front bumper? Do you have to drill new holes or does it go far back enough to use existing bolts?

bp05 · 06-01-2016, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135ivert

What is FRP?

Fiberglass reinforced plastic. I may just use a 3-layer system of fiber fabric-fiber mat-fiber fabric.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc08EX

How does it mount to the front bumper? Do you have to drill new holes or does it go far back enough to use existing bolts?

There will already be pre-marked indents where you could drill whatever sized hole you'd like.

Elsabor67 · 06-01-2016, 02:33 PM

How much are you looking to charge for them??

bp05 · 06-01-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elsabor67

How much are you looking to charge for them??

Can't really say yet.

Estimate right now is at $200 + Shipping.

bp05 · 06-01-2016, 05:43 PM

Updated above!

ilikebmxbikes · 06-01-2016, 06:32 PM

You are advertising you are creating counterfeit Slek Lips. Unauthorized copies are copyright infringement and illegal.

here you go
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-infringement.html

ilikebmxbikes · 06-01-2016, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp05

Can't really say yet.

The original SLeK is $1200!

I plan to make these affordable enough.

It all depends on materials and demand...

Estimate right now is at $200 + Shipping.

so you are undercutting someones pricing by making your rip offs in a cheaper material and negating the design R&D?

Downeaster1 · 06-02-2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

so you are undercutting someones pricing by making your rip offs in a cheaper material and negating the design R&D?

This. It's an obvious copy.

ShocknAwe · 06-02-2016, 09:16 AM

If he wanted to he could easily modify the mold a bit to produce a different product. Though admittedly I'm not sure how much would be necessary to circumvent the design copyright.

RedRanger · 06-02-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

If he wanted to he could easily modify the mold a bit to produce a different product. Though admittedly I'm not sure how much would be necessary to circumvent the design copyright.

One cm shorter/longer in one location would be considered a different product and would hold up in court as it would not be breaking copyright or patent laws.

gap · 06-05-2016, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

You are advertising you are creating counterfeit Slek Lips. Unauthorized copies are copyright infringement and illegal.

here you go
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-infringement.html

I thought copyright meant we have a right to copy

ShocknAwe · 06-06-2016, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRanger

One cm shorter/longer in one location would be considered a different product and would hold up in court as it would not be breaking copyright or patent laws.

I'd double check this op, but if true, you're basically in the clear. Have fun.

Suprgnat · 06-06-2016, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRanger

One cm shorter/longer in one location would be considered a different product and would hold up in court as it would not be breaking copyright or patent laws.

Likely be considered a "derivative work".

Downeaster1 · 06-09-2016, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suprgnat

Likely be considered a "derivative work".

This.
Source: Been there, done that.

bp05 · 06-20-2016, 07:16 AM

Well then this is definitely derivative.

Thinking about 2 layer FRP, 1 CF overlay.

Widowmaker · 06-22-2016, 12:17 PM

Any update on this? Def interested in a CF overlay one

928 1er · 06-22-2016, 11:17 PM

^

. Also wondering about the CF overlay.

rob24ert · 06-22-2016, 11:24 PM

I'd be also interested in cf overlay. Please pm me

ronster · 07-06-2016, 10:21 PM

How about making one for 1M?

kyubiii · 07-07-2016, 01:18 AM

Id be interested. Lmk when you have some available.

06-01-2016, 10:34 AM	#1
bp05 Private First Class 14 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 09 135i Vert Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA iTrader: (1)	GAUGING INTEREST FOR: lip Anyone interested in a lip? It will be made out of FRP. I currently have one on my car (pictured). I am in the process of acquiring the mold. If that falls through, I will be making a mold out of mine. Wanting to give access to anyone here first, before posting it up on eBay and Amazon. First batches will be FRP. I can start experimenting later with CF overlay, full CF, then if justifiable PU lips. Update 06/01/2016: Good news! The mold looks good and I will be purchasing it. I'd like to really know who's interested in the lip! The replica lip shown on my car is a two layer FRP spec. I will be following the same specs for this first run. I will be sanding the lips and putting on a simple black primer. This will be made to order. After I buy the mold, I will start buying the supplies needed (fiber mat, fiber cloth, resin, PVA, wax, etc..). Lets get a group buy going! I'll look at the rules for group buys for this forum and update here again! Please PM or post a comment if you're more than very interested. Pricing not available yet. Guesstimating range is $200 + shipping as the highest. Attached Images Last edited by bp05; 06-01-2016 at 09:35 PM.. Reason: Differentiate title.
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06-01-2016, 11:26 AM	#2
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06-01-2016, 02:33 PM	#5
Elsabor67 aiming for 450..... 302 Rep 2,910 Posts Drives: Totaled :-( Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana iTrader: (28) Garage List 2009 135i [10.00]	How much are you looking to charge for them?? __________________ Quote from Ezeedee regarding car mods: "you're only done when you sell the car "
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06-01-2016, 05:43 PM	#7
bp05 Private First Class 14 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 09 135i Vert Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA iTrader: (1)	Updated above!
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06-01-2016, 06:32 PM	#8
ilikebmxbikes Banned 1518 Rep 4,744 Posts Drives: S65 1M Clone & E92 M3 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (42) Garage List '08/13 1M Clone 4.0L [10.00] '11 e92 M3 4.6L [10.00]	You are advertising you are creating counterfeit Slek Lips. Unauthorized copies are copyright infringement and illegal. here you go http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-infringement.html
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ShocknAwe 1Addict 3230 Rep 7,889 Posts Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charleston iTrader: (22)	If he wanted to he could easily modify the mold a bit to produce a different product. Though admittedly I'm not sure how much would be necessary to circumvent the design copyright. __________________ 2010 135i 6MT Jet Black N54/3 FE82 Mutt \| BUILD THREAD \| GARAGE SALE
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06-20-2016, 07:16 AM	#17
bp05 Private First Class 14 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 09 135i Vert Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA iTrader: (1)	Well then this is definitely derivative. Thinking about 2 layer FRP, 1 CF overlay.
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06-22-2016, 12:17 PM	#18
Widowmaker Private First Class 24 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 12' 135i Alpine White n55 DCT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO iTrader: (8)	Any update on this? Def interested in a CF overlay one
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06-22-2016, 11:17 PM	#19
928 1er New Member 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2016 White Tundra "Brodozer" Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Prescott, AZ iTrader: (1)	^. Also wondering about the CF overlay. __________________ '08 Alpine White E88, 12mm Spacers, MHD OTS V.5 Stage 1, BMS DCI, BMS "Chinese" CP, Stubby antenna, P3 Gauge, and Ebay CF Spoiler
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06-22-2016, 11:24 PM	#20
rob24ert First Lieutenant 83 Rep 394 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	I'd be also interested in cf overlay. Please pm me
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07-06-2016, 10:21 PM	#21
ronster Lieutenant 16 Rep 421 Posts Drives: 2011 1M VO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	How about making one for 1M? __________________ 2011 1M VO stripper 2009 AW 135i M-sp (sold) 2002 SG MINI Cooper (sold)
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07-07-2016, 01:18 AM	#22
kyubiii Private First Class 31 Rep 130 Posts Drives: m2c Join Date: May 2014 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Id be interested. Lmk when you have some available.
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