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There is no way you can sell me on this car warranting pricing within 3k of 335 coupe, much less costing more....as a previous poster replied, what separates this car from 335 is the value.....a 35k base price would make this car incomparable..... Unfortunately, if they choose to price this car close to 335, I assume most will opt for 335......I also assume that 135 will sell at MSRP, but you should be able to get a 335 coupe at a discount, narrowing the price gap where is the sense in all this? |
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Don't forget that the 1 cabrio has to fit in there somewhere. Granted the 135 cabrio will probably start in the high 30k(39k) maybe even 41k. Honestly I think we should stop talking prices cause everybody is going to go crazy with this. I can't wait til the road tests come out and give us an idea of what we're dealing with. |
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I cringe a little when you write "entry level", since the appointments and performance are anything but. However, I agree with you in principal that all prior evidence from press et al indicated that base pricing should be least expensive BMW
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I really think people like this are going to be royally pissed off if the 135i isn't outragously over priced! |
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I wish I could get paid by BMW! I just don't understand why people think that the 1 should be so much less expensive than the 3 just because the number 1 is less than the number 3. I've read the points that have been made, and just don't buy into them.
If you offer me a fully loaded 335i or a fully loaded 135i, I'm gonna chose the 135i any day of the week! Why? Simple: better design, better performance, better MPG. |
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Doubtful. They will probably be pleasantly surprised, whereas those wishing for a price in the low 30s will probably have an aneurism if it's priced in the mid 30s.
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I as well would prefer a 135 to a 335, regardless of price. The concept of the 135 (and hopefully its execution) is exciting which is why we continue to be seduced back to it regardless of concerns about what the mother company plans for its price. When I consider "value", a car's emotional appeal is a major component. In my own mind, I can rationalize the cost of this car by thinking of it as an M1 for 2/3 the price of an M3. - Cody Joaquin
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EDIT: I was thinking today as I was driving home, If I was in court I could talk up a ROCK SOLID case as to why BMW could price this car at 37k and get away with it. Those of us on here that say we'll find something else thats fine. That decision is not so easy for me. I am infatuated with this car. I dont want a 335i. I want a 135i.
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[quote=Wookie;24915]I'm amazed that this is being called a "entry-level" car - before the 1 came along, did you call the 3er an entry level car?
[quote] Well yes, the 3er IS commonly referred to as an entry level luxury sedan... |
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I'm not disagreeing that technically it's the entry level BMW - but they is like saying the F430 is the entry level Ferrari - just b/c it's the lowest priced model. |
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The 1-Series is BMW's Entry Line. Yes, I agree with this general statement.
The 128i is the Entry Model The 135i MSport is the Top Line of the 1-Series You can compare price of the Entry 128i to the Entry 3 Series when released. I will not be surprised to see the Top of the 1-Series Line (135i) priced within $2,500 of the Base 335i Coupe (MSRP $40,800). |
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Your assumption, though, that a higher price must maximize profit is incorrect. Generally, the lower BMW prices the 135i, the more revenue they will make at which point the cost of each car becomes critical. The 135i is not using many 'unique' parts, apart from the brakes, so I can not image the production costs being that high.
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Its been basically an assumption thats stuck that BMW is coming out with a car that is somewhat smaller and looks like a three series to compete in a lower price bracket. In no such words has BMW ever marketed this car that way. Theyve only compared it to the 2002 as a revolutionary new class of car for BMW. There is going to be plenty of people like myself who like the looks of the 1 series more than the 3 series, and if there is any type of savings over the 3 series they will be satisfied. With the production numbers they are talking about, thats exactly who BMW is targeting. If I was a definite buyer of either a 1 or 3, and I had to make a decision, and the car was 3K difference, like I originally posted, I would take the 1 series, because I like the looks better. It has the same engine, its faster, and the savings albeit small is still a bonus.
That being said as a weekend fun car like I intended to use it for, Im going to have to think twice if the car options out in the low 40's. |
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