Does anyone run 19's?

miro2296 · 04-20-2010, 01:48 PM

I am running 19X10's(265/30/19) in the back and no rubbing. i am still on stock suspension though, but i believe tire choice usually makes or breaks the rubbing issues on custom wheels.

adrean8j · 04-20-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Eyeman

Wishbone, that's a similar setup to what a lot of us run. On the stock suspension you'll have few options. Where you'll have to be very careful is if you lower. I'd for sure try to get a 255/30 rear in a tire that tends to run small. That pretty much means Toyo T1r's to me. I'd use 225/35 fr to play it safe but a Toyo 235/35 will work also.

Adrean, I'm confused. I thought you asking about what to buy. As for your wheels, no doubt they are great looking but also no doubt they did not provide you good offsets. There have been others with custom wheels that had the same problem. I bet much of the problem comes from the fact that it's just hard to get a wheel to look good when you make the offset in the +52 kind of range.

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Originally Posted by miro2296

I am running 19X10's(265/30/19) in the back and no rubbing. i am still on stock suspension though, but i believe tire choice usually makes or breaks the rubbing issues on custom wheels.

Yeah I had to set my suspension back to stock heights and I was rubbing on dips with the Goodyears and really rubbing with the Yoko's...the offset is obviously off and I hope that they will fix it without a huge fight....right now it is more a pain in the a$$ and time lost right now.
I was more asking about issues others have had getting 19's to fit properly WITHOUT a lot of fender modification or playing tire roulette.

WishBone33 · 04-20-2010, 10:37 PM

So what offsets did they send you, adrean?

91Kevin · 04-20-2010, 10:56 PM

I was on Advan RZs
19x8 front
19x9 rear with a 50mm offset

I had AD08 tires all around in a 235mm width, and Im lowered on coils about an inch and a half. I rubbed in the rear even with that, and it actually cut part of the sidewall of my passenger side rear tire.
itll be difficult. The car is in the shop now getting my rear fenders rolled and basically pulled out lol

mshahidz · 04-20-2010, 10:56 PM

Adrean, the fact that you are running round side-walled tires seems to be the problem. Specially ad08's along with any other ultra high perf. rubber is rounded. However, that SHOULDNT be your problem as you're running a custom set up.

Hope it gets figured out for you.

I have 19" LM's on the way, 245/30/19 in the rear, 225/35/19 in the front.

91Kevin · 04-20-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mohammadz

Adrean, the fact that you are running round side-walled tires seems to be the problem. Specially ad08's along with any other ultra high perf. rubber is rounded. However, that SHOULDNT be your problem as you're running a custom set up.

Hope it gets figured out for you.

I have 19" LM's on the way, 245/30/19 in the rear, 225/35/19 in the front.

what are the offsets on the LMs you've ordered?
Those are the wheels I always wanted, but i thought they didnt fit

WishBone33 · 04-20-2010, 11:17 PM

Do you guys think i'll be straight with
19x8.5 et45 with 225/30/19 toyos
19.9.5 et48 with 255/35/19 toyos

on stock suspension?

mshahidz · 04-21-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 91Kevin

what are the offsets on the LMs you've ordered?
Those are the wheels I always wanted, but i thought they didnt fit

they dont fit, but i plan to make them

19x8.5/9.5 +30

mshahidz · 04-21-2010, 03:27 AM

Am i the only who see's everyone using the WRONG tire size?

I ordered 245/30/19 and 225/35/19

everyone is going to be racking on at least 4% more mileage on their cars!

We have to run at least a 30 series tire in the rear for 19s, and 35 series up front!

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 04:08 AM

Sorry mohammadz! I'm clueless when it comes to wheels and tires that's why i was asking. Could you explain why we need 35's in the front and 30's in the rear? Also, why 245's instead of 255's?

adrean8j · 04-21-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WishBone33

Sorry mohammadz! I'm clueless when it comes to wheels and tires that's why i was asking. Could you explain why we need 35's in the front and 30's in the rear? Also, why 245's instead of 255's?

Good training!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=46&

Eyeman · 04-21-2010, 09:46 AM

Wishbone, you just wrote it down wrong, otherwise it should work. You need 225/35fr and 255/30r. That will work with those wheels and your suspension. I doubt it will ever rub but if it does it will be when you have a few passengers and the passenger side rear fender will rub a little.

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 02:26 PM

anyone have any recommendations on tires? I was thinking toyos but they are too expensive. anyone with experience with hankooks?

eyeman, are you saying that i might rub with passengers in the rear seats or do you think i would rub with just 1 passenger in the passenger side?

adrean8j · 04-21-2010, 02:41 PM

I would recommend the Goodyear Eagle F1's or Nitto Invo's

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

I would recommend the Goodyear Eagle F1's or Nitto Invo's

Im assuming that these don't rub very much and are fairly affordable? I like the hankooks price but i'm not sure if they'll rub.

adrean8j · 04-21-2010, 03:18 PM

The rub is dependent upon your offsets more than anything. From what I have heard from several vendors (with project cars) the Nitto's have the best "sidewall" for running 19's.

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 04:49 PM

My vendor recommended toyos, kumho, general exclaim, and hankooks.

Eyeman · 04-21-2010, 06:52 PM

Wishbone, I'm sure that just Toyos and Falkens run so abnormally small and that seems to be your main concern. I just looked it up for you, with Falken FK452 you'd order 245/35 rears, with Toyo T1r 255/30. Basically those are your two choices given your concerns. So if you want to save go Falkens. With either of these choices you might rub a little if you have 200+ lbs of passengers in your car. If you chose any other tire you are likely to rub more. The cheapest tire I know of that runs small are Nexxens but they don't come in our sizes.

ptack · 04-21-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WishBone33

anyone have any recommendations on tires? I was thinking toyos but they are too expensive. anyone with experience with hankooks?

eyeman, are you saying that i might rub with passengers in the rear seats or do you think i would rub with just 1 passenger in the passenger side?

Hankooks seem to have a pretty square shoulder so I think they are more likely to rub that Toyos.

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 08:01 PM

Alright now I'm really confused. My vendor told me that the falkens would def rub because falkens are known to be "oversized"? I'm not sure what that means but I'm totally confused.

adrean8j · 04-21-2010, 09:06 PM

Ok so lets put it this way Wishbone....On 19" wheels w/stock suspension you will not rub in every day driving (given that the offsets are correct for whatever wheels you purchase) this is with pretty much what ever tire you choose.....BUT....if you hit a doozy of a dip or have heavy passengers you will have a slight to moderate rub.....that is part of the reason I opened this thread, because I do not think I have heard of ANYONE with 19's with ZERO rub without some type of fender mod.

**Addendum** This is with 255/30's for the rear tires...

WishBone33 · 04-21-2010, 09:20 PM

Sorry adrean, i kinda feel like i hijacked your thread lol. Anways, what would be considered "correct" offsets? I got et45 front and et48 rears. I know in the rear, the higher the offset the better it is. This has the be the most confusing car the try to buy proper wheels and tires for.

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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	So what offsets did they send you, adrean?
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91Kevin Lieutenant 17 Rep 419 Posts Drives: White 2011 Subaru STI Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC iTrader: (3)	I was on Advan RZs 19x8 front 19x9 rear with a 50mm offset I had AD08 tires all around in a 235mm width, and Im lowered on coils about an inch and a half. I rubbed in the rear even with that, and it actually cut part of the sidewall of my passenger side rear tire. itll be difficult. The car is in the shop now getting my rear fenders rolled and basically pulled out lol
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mshahidz Major 129 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: M4, 991 GT3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (7)	Adrean, the fact that you are running round side-walled tires seems to be the problem. Specially ad08's along with any other ultra high perf. rubber is rounded. However, that SHOULDNT be your problem as you're running a custom set up. Hope it gets figured out for you. I have 19" LM's on the way, 245/30/19 in the rear, 225/35/19 in the front. __________________ JRZ RS2 \| Capristo \| Eisenmann \| Volk Racing TE37SL \| Endless Brakes \|
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	Do you guys think i'll be straight with 19x8.5 et45 with 225/30/19 toyos 19.9.5 et48 with 255/35/19 toyos on stock suspension?
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mshahidz Major 129 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: M4, 991 GT3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (7)	Am i the only who see's everyone using the WRONG tire size? I ordered 245/30/19 and 225/35/19 everyone is going to be racking on at least 4% more mileage on their cars! We have to run at least a 30 series tire in the rear for 19s, and 35 series up front! __________________ JRZ RS2 \| Capristo \| Eisenmann \| Volk Racing TE37SL \| Endless Brakes \|
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	Sorry mohammadz! I'm clueless when it comes to wheels and tires that's why i was asking. Could you explain why we need 35's in the front and 30's in the rear? Also, why 245's instead of 255's?
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Eyeman Colonel 121 Rep 2,037 Posts Drives: 2008 135 blk, blk, step Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1994 Porsche 968 Cab [0.00] 2017 AMG GTS [0.00] 1994 Porsche 968 Coupe [0.00] 1977 Mercedes 450SE ... [0.00] 2008 135 [8.00]	Wishbone, you just wrote it down wrong, otherwise it should work. You need 225/35fr and 255/30r. That will work with those wheels and your suspension. I doubt it will ever rub but if it does it will be when you have a few passengers and the passenger side rear fender will rub a little. __________________ Injen, RR OCC, MadDad Whisper, donut spare, 19x8.5et43fr 19x9.5et45r Volk LE37's, rear fenders rolled/pulled, PSS4S 225/35fr 255/30r, KW V1's, AR coated catless dps, Cross strutbar, CF grills and license plate holder, iCarbon diffuser, ETS black anodized FMIC, M3 control arms, Quaife, ER chargepipe, ForgeDV's, Topspeed Custom Tune, V3sims, Braille, Andrey_GTA rear hub mod, Ebay Mstyle front bumper and performance style side skirts.
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	anyone have any recommendations on tires? I was thinking toyos but they are too expensive. anyone with experience with hankooks? eyeman, are you saying that i might rub with passengers in the rear seats or do you think i would rub with just 1 passenger in the passenger side?
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	My vendor recommended toyos, kumho, general exclaim, and hankooks.
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Eyeman Colonel 121 Rep 2,037 Posts Drives: 2008 135 blk, blk, step Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1994 Porsche 968 Cab [0.00] 2017 AMG GTS [0.00] 1994 Porsche 968 Coupe [0.00] 1977 Mercedes 450SE ... [0.00] 2008 135 [8.00]	Wishbone, I'm sure that just Toyos and Falkens run so abnormally small and that seems to be your main concern. I just looked it up for you, with Falken FK452 you'd order 245/35 rears, with Toyo T1r 255/30. Basically those are your two choices given your concerns. So if you want to save go Falkens. With either of these choices you might rub a little if you have 200+ lbs of passengers in your car. If you chose any other tire you are likely to rub more. The cheapest tire I know of that runs small are Nexxens but they don't come in our sizes. __________________ Injen, RR OCC, MadDad Whisper, donut spare, 19x8.5et43fr 19x9.5et45r Volk LE37's, rear fenders rolled/pulled, PSS4S 225/35fr 255/30r, KW V1's, AR coated catless dps, Cross strutbar, CF grills and license plate holder, iCarbon diffuser, ETS black anodized FMIC, M3 control arms, Quaife, ER chargepipe, ForgeDV's, Topspeed Custom Tune, V3sims, Braille, Andrey_GTA rear hub mod, Ebay Mstyle front bumper and performance style side skirts.
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	Alright now I'm really confused. My vendor told me that the falkens would def rub because falkens are known to be "oversized"? I'm not sure what that means but I'm totally confused.
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WishBone33 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 361 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC iTrader: (0)	Sorry adrean, i kinda feel like i hijacked your thread lol. Anways, what would be considered "correct" offsets? I got et45 front and et48 rears. I know in the rear, the higher the offset the better it is. This has the be the most confusing car the try to buy proper wheels and tires for.
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