BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-03-2018, 12:34 PM   #67
buddalun
Lieutenant Colonel
buddalun's Avatar
United_States
678
Rep
1,932
Posts

Drives: 911 x 2, Tesla M3P & MYP
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: USA

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post


Aaah, another who's quoting from clickbait reviews. I and many, many others can unequivocably state that it does not sound like a Subaru. Two closer comparisons: a V-twin literbike and (oooh!) an air-cooled 911.
I've driven the 718 base. It does NOT sound like an air cooled flat 6 Porsche.

Just for fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4abUj5JgFlw

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...like-a-subaru/

Last edited by buddalun; 09-03-2018 at 03:08 PM..
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2018, 01:11 PM   #68
Pig Farmer
Major
340
Rep
1,293
Posts

Drives: E92M
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by buddalun View Post
I've driven the 718 base. It does NOT sound like an air cooled Porsche.
Are you trying to give this guy a heart attack?
Appreciate 1
buddalun678.00
      09-03-2018, 01:36 PM   #69
c1pher
Primo Generalissimo
c1pher's Avatar
United_States
4546
Rep
3,995
Posts

Drives: All of them
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: DC area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
I'm not a fan of front engine, I4 Porsches, but saying that people don't respect flat four Porsches seems a little silly. Some one has paid seven figures for one.
[IMG]https://www.sportscarmarket.com/wp-c...00-front-2.jpg[/IMG]

Of course I'd also have a Dino over all but a few V12 Ferraris and only one V8.
I would like an Alfa 4c but don’t think that could be a daily driver lol.
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2018, 01:57 PM   #70
SakhirM4
Major General
SakhirM4's Avatar
United_States
10783
Rep
8,852
Posts

Drives: '15 SO M4/'20 Z4 M40i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW Z4 M40i  [10.00]
2015 BMW M4  [8.76]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
All great points. Forgive me if I feel a need to defend the car against stereotypes that, in most cases, are unfounded or that stem from ignorance, either purposeful or undetected. As a de facto ambassador for the 718, I simply feel that it's part of my role.
And you feel the need to come to a BMW forum to be the de facto ambassador for the 718 because ....
__________________
Tejas Chapter, BMW CCA, mem #23915, President 27 years, www.tejaschapter.org
Appreciate 1
Not Sure212.50
      09-03-2018, 07:48 PM   #71
10"
Colonel
10"'s Avatar
No_Country
4946
Rep
2,262
Posts

Drives: orange BMW 1M.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: world

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
I'm not a fan of front engine, I4 Porsches, but saying that people don't respect flat four Porsches seems a little silly. Some one has paid seven figures for one.
[IMG]https://www.sportscarmarket.com/wp-c...00-front-2.jpg[/IMG]

Of course I'd also have a Dino over all but a few V12 Ferraris and only one V8.
That IS a VW. Literally...

It had a flat 4 engine because the Beetle had a flat 4 engine. Doesn't make it that unique or interesting really..

Now a V4 engine as seen in Lancias? Swoooooon. They sound like a Mini-V8.
__________________
don't read this. too late...
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2018, 08:56 PM   #72
Teeone
Second Lieutenant
United_States
156
Rep
220
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Southeast Michigan

iTrader: (0)

Why do people who love their brand and car to death go on forums for other brands when all they do is brag about the car they own? All I can think of is that they are insecure. They must not sleep at night knowing that someone out there has a better (or bigger) one than they do. Go back to your 718forum. Please.
Appreciate 4
SakhirM410783.00
Run Silent15127.00
Not Sure212.50
      09-03-2018, 09:02 PM   #73
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
9720
Rep
6,445
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [9.74]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teeone View Post
Why do people who love their brand and car to death go on forums for other brands when all they do is brag about the car they own? All I can think of is that they are insecure. They must not sleep at night knowing that someone out there has a better (or bigger) one than they do. Go back to your 718forum. Please.
OP appears to drive an M240 and has been a member since 2016. :
__________________
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2018, 09:25 PM   #74
Teeone
Second Lieutenant
United_States
156
Rep
220
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Southeast Michigan

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
OP appears to drive an M240 and has been a member since 2016. :
I was not referring to the OP.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2018, 06:44 AM   #75
c1pher
Primo Generalissimo
c1pher's Avatar
United_States
4546
Rep
3,995
Posts

Drives: All of them
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: DC area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teeone View Post
Why do people who love their brand and car to death go on forums for other brands when all they do is brag about the car they own? All I can think of is that they are insecure. They must not sleep at night knowing that someone out there has a better (or bigger) one than they do. Go back to your 718forum. Please.
This is the non BMW section. Many of us own other brands and we enjoy talking cars. I don’t think there is anything wrong with extolling the virtues of other vehicles. For example, there is a long section of “M2 vs” to help people decide if the M2 or another car is for them. I enjoy posting in bimmerpost/addicts more than the Corvette and Porsche forums as the conversation is more engaging and friendly overall and there are more diverse topics.
Appreciate 3
Red Bread4462.00
mkoesel7505.50
Viffermike1753.00
      09-04-2018, 08:08 AM   #76
baege
Lieutenant Colonel
1321
Rep
1,590
Posts

Drives: 2022 Cayman GTS 4.0 6MT
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MGM135is View Post
This is the non BMW section. Many of us own other brands and we enjoy talking cars. I don’t think there is anything wrong with extolling the virtues of other vehicles. For example, there is a long section of “M2 vs” to help people decide if the M2 or another car is for them. I enjoy posting in bimmerpost/addicts more than the Corvette and Porsche forums as the conversation is more engaging and friendly overall and there are more diverse topics.
.this particular forum is great for gearheads...I strayed from BMW for a good 5 years but I still posted here on the regular because it is a great space to talk cars
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2018, 01:37 PM   #77
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1753
Rep
2,942
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10" View Post
the M4 is 3500-3600lbs. 718 is 3000. Unlike the 718 the M4 is actually practical...and you can transport people.

I would never want to buy a 4 banger Porsche. I'm sure others will agree that is a total waste of money...to buy a Porsche and not get one of the best things about it; a sweet, singing 6. It's like buying a decaf coffee; triple filtered to remove the kick. A product of clever advertising and product placement.
You, sir, plainly don't know your Porsche history. It ain't all 911, and it ain't all sixes, flat or otherwise.

And, I will add, the engine is not the best reason to buy a 981/982 Porsche. It's the handling. The 718 is, by a considerable consensus among professional auto writers and others, the best-handling street car available below $200ish K ... and, some would argue, the best at any price point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SakhirM4 View Post
And you feel the need to come to a BMW forum to be the de facto ambassador for the 718 because ....
Teeone Look ay my posts/rep figures and my sig. I've been on this forum since 2014 because I owned a 2 Series and became one of the 'experts' on the car here. I traded up to a 718 a year ago, but I stick around here to provide advice and context, quell misinformation, play devil's advocate, and continue to teach and learn. It's fun. So, I didn't 'come' here. I've 'been' here.

Heck: There are forums I've been an off-and-on part of since the mid-1990s. So, Teeone : Don't tell me to go, because beyond being banned (never happened, :: knock on wood :: ), I'm likely not going anywhere. Besides: This isn't your forum. This isn't even a BMW owners forum. It's everyone's. Internet forums are a populist microcosm rendered from 1s and 0s. Obey the rules and contribute, and that's all you need: you're in.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2018, 01:53 PM   #78
c1pher
Primo Generalissimo
c1pher's Avatar
United_States
4546
Rep
3,995
Posts

Drives: All of them
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: DC area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
You, sir, plainly don't know your Porsche history. It ain't all 911, and it ain't all sixes, flat or otherwise.
And wasn't the 912 a flat four? A pretty popular 911 variant.
Appreciate 1
Viffermike1753.00
      09-04-2018, 03:17 PM   #79
Never_Enough
Banned
United_States
2202
Rep
2,476
Posts

Drives: Satan's Chariot 2.0
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: PA

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teeone View Post
Why do people who love their brand and car to death go on forums for other brands when all they do is brag about the car they own? All I can think of is that they are insecure. They must not sleep at night knowing that someone out there has a better (or bigger) one than they do. Go back to your 718forum. Please.
& you have "various" as what you drive.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2018, 03:40 PM   #80
SakhirM4
Major General
SakhirM4's Avatar
United_States
10783
Rep
8,852
Posts

Drives: '15 SO M4/'20 Z4 M40i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW Z4 M40i  [10.00]
2015 BMW M4  [8.76]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
The 718 is, by a considerable consensus among professional auto writers and others, the best-handling street car available below $200ish K ...
Sources please .....
__________________
Tejas Chapter, BMW CCA, mem #23915, President 27 years, www.tejaschapter.org
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2018, 04:02 PM   #81
SunnyD
Major
SunnyD's Avatar
United_States
452
Rep
1,287
Posts

Drives: M4 GTS
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, CA

iTrader: (0)

Played with a 718 non-S in my Fiesta ST and was not impressed by it. For something that costs 3 times as much as my car new and should absolutely leave me in the dust performance-wise, it had a lot of trouble doing so and wasn't very successful at it. And 3,000 lbs isn't light - my FiST stock weighs 2,780 lbs.
__________________
'16 ///M4 GTS
'11.75 ///E90 M3 ZCP | DCT
'06 ///M5 | SMG - Gone
'98 ///M3 | 5MT - Gone
'07 ///M Coupe | 6MT - Gone
Appreciate 1
Run Silent15127.00
      09-04-2018, 04:16 PM   #82
Red Bread
Major General
United_States
4462
Rep
9,160
Posts

Drives: Smog machines
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SakhirM4 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
The 718 is, by a considerable consensus among professional auto writers and others, the best-handling street car available below $200ish K ...
Sources please .....
Anyone who has never heard of a Corvette.
Appreciate 1
SakhirM410783.00
      09-04-2018, 04:28 PM   #83
bueller
First Lieutenant
Canada
174
Rep
310
Posts

Drives: 2018 EB F31 2018 LG F80
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Nice choice in roads, 94 out to Palomar used to be my goto on my motorcycle when I lived in SD. Put the 243 on your list for your next trip, its a little further north, but an amazing road.

The Cayman is an amazing car, it does everything well. Handling is amazing, quality is top notch. I enjoy the way the 6s sound, but the 4s sound fine. I find with the frunk / trunk combo, it has plenty of space.

On the down side, by the time you add some options, it's going to be spendy when you compare what you get for how much.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RotorOver View Post
Had the opportunity to rent a base Cayman from Luso via Turo in San Diego. Did a drive out to Lake Cuyumaca via Hwy 94 then north from Jamul on some fun roads.

The car was an eye catching Miami Blue with 20" Carrera S wheels and equipped with a PDK, NAV, Apple CarPlay, along with the 14-way Power Sport seats, but that was about it from what I could tell.

Wow, that car handled incredibly! Steering was really direct and it cornered really flat. It was quicker than I thought it would be, slower than my Dinan stage 1 tuned M240i right off the line, but once the boost kicked in it produced a similar acceleration. The ride was firm, but better than the m lite in sport/sport plus on Dinan springs & bump stops.

I'm thinking a Cayman is in my future! Can't imagine how an S or GTS with more hp and performance options would drive! Here are some pics:
Appreciate 1
RotorOver295.50
      09-05-2018, 12:53 AM   #84
Crimson92
Smiling Politely
Crimson92's Avatar
United_States
1380
Rep
29,118
Posts

Drives: Like a boss
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Whales Vagina

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
And, I will add, the engine is not the best reason to buy a 981/982 Porsche. It's the handling. The 718 is, by a considerable consensus among professional auto writers and others, the best-handling street car available below $200ish K ... and, some would argue, the best at any price point.
Ok I was being nice before but you just lost all credibility.

The 718 is nice and good n all but best handling car under 200k....go home you're drunk.
__________________
Quote:
Some people are like slinkies...not really good for much but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs"
Appreciate 1
10"4946.00
      09-05-2018, 01:49 AM   #85
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1753
Rep
2,942
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson92 View Post
Ok I was being nice before but you just lost all credibility.

The 718 is nice and good n all but best handling car under 200k....go home you're drunk.
Do an internet search, guys. That's all I'm gonna say in defense of my sobriety.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 0
      09-05-2018, 11:43 AM   #86
10"
Colonel
10"'s Avatar
No_Country
4946
Rep
2,262
Posts

Drives: orange BMW 1M.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: world

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson92 View Post
Ok I was being nice before but you just lost all credibility.

The 718 is nice and good n all but best handling car under 200k....go home you're drunk.
Do an internet search, guys. That's all I'm gonna say in defense of my sobriety.
I did a search and found your 718 is the best sounding car of the past 4500 years. Even better sounding than a lion. Slightly beating the wild growling Turtle of the subsaharan swamps of sarimisirena.
__________________
don't read this. too late...
Appreciate 1
jeff11363.50
      09-05-2018, 01:05 PM   #87
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1753
Rep
2,942
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10" View Post
I did a search and found your 718 is the best sounding car of the past 4500 years. Even better sounding than a lion. Slightly beating the wild growling Turtle of the subsaharan swamps of sarimisirena.
Nice try. Not taking the bait.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:36 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST