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      04-20-2015, 11:06 AM   #1
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135i Long first Crank

I recently (6 months ago) bought 2009 E88 with only 15 600 miles which has just started having a long first crank. I have read a few things about the HPFP although most say that the car will display other alarms on the dash. I have the long first crank but no other symptoms or alarms although there is a slight rough idle. its been doing it for about 2 weeks with not much increase in problems.
I have taken it to a dealer for a check and they say the fuel pump pressure is normal although they need to update the firmware on the engine controller to get further diagnostics, they said it would take 4 to 5 hours to do the firmware upgrade as the current version is from 2008. Is this normal operation or should I just get the HPFP replaced before it goes. Its not free in Australia to have it replaced.

Also I noticed that they filled the windscreen washer bottle appeared to be very full, the next day I noticed water was leaking from a panel near the front door hinge. Is this normal for washer bottle to get hot from engine. expand and release water somehow, I noticed the level has not dropped, its still full.

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      04-20-2015, 11:18 AM   #2
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In my specific case, I had similar problems over the course of about two months. The long cranks got worse and worse and on a few occasions the car didn't start. I didn't, however, experience any hesitation, rough idle, or codes thrown.
I brought it in for a HPFP test (negative, so no replacement) and from that day on the problem, with a few exceptions, vanished. No problems at all in the last few thousand miles.

It might have been a bad tank of gas, I have no idea. In any case, there's always the chance that it's *not* your HPFP, despite its reputation.
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You do not necessarily get an engine code with a bad HPFP.
First thing i would do is check the fuel pump then check your injectors.
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      04-20-2015, 11:40 AM   #4
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Ok thanks, the rough idle is only straight after the long crank. Maybe I will proceed with the firmware upgrade and see what happens.
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      11-05-2015, 07:58 AM   #6
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Hi just a quick note, apology for the delay as I have been travelling.

I had the HPFP replaced with the latest model and the problem is definitely fixed, cost me A$800 as I got a good deal on the pump from a dealer and had it fitted somewhere else.

The car is running really well. I am now looking for a tuner I have been considering the COBB and Burger JB4. Are there suggestions from users.

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Hi just a quick note, apology for the delay as I have been travelling.

I had the HPFP replaced with the latest model and the problem is definitely fixed, cost me A$800 as I got a good deal on the pump from a dealer and had it fitted somewhere else.

The car is running really well. I am now looking for a tuner I have been considering the COBB and Burger JB4. Are there suggestions from users.

Cheers
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      11-06-2015, 07:31 AM   #8
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Thanks, also ideas on the tuners from cobb, burger ir others?
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