Think this can be plugged? (nail in OEM runflat)

soupy · 05-17-2011, 06:18 PM

On my OEM Bridgestone rear runflat tire. It looks like it's not quite at where the sidewall begins to curve over but it's hard to be sure. Might be my excuse to get new non-runflat tires I guess

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VMRWheels · 05-17-2011, 06:56 PM

That looks to be ok to plug since its not located near the sidewall.

-Charles@VMRWheels

moveswiftly · 05-17-2011, 07:50 PM

Yes

Cuz5150 · 05-17-2011, 07:55 PM

plug away.......

xerox445 · 05-17-2011, 07:57 PM

Yeah, thats not too close to the sidewall, your good to go.

soupy · 05-17-2011, 07:59 PM

thanks for the reassurance guys! I'll swing by the tire shop tomorrow

Walt White Coupe · 05-17-2011, 08:08 PM

You may be disappointed. In the Goodyear Supercar runflats on my vette, Goodyear will not repair any puncture that's in the inner or outermost tread block. That nail location would be considered "unrepairable" under Goodyear criteria since it's in the outer tread block.

xerox445 · 05-17-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe

You may be disappointed. In the Goodyear Supercar runflats on my vette, Goodyear will not repair any puncture that's in the inner or outermost tread block. That nail location would be considered "unrepairable" under Goodyear criteria since it's in the outer tread block.

Don't go to Goodyear.

You could also pick up a plug kit for 10 dollars at any local auto parts store, and fix it yourself.

Walt White Coupe · 05-17-2011, 10:44 PM

Be aware that the proper repair of a runflat is remove tire from the wheel and insert/glue a mushroom type plug with the stem pulled thru the hole and the cap glued to the inside of the tire.

Cisitalia · 05-18-2011, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerox445

You could also pick up a plug kit for 10 dollars at any local auto parts store, and fix it yourself.

That's considered a temporary fix. To maintain speed rating, a proper fix like Walt explained is required.

Walt White Coupe · 05-18-2011, 10:37 AM

And I believe the reason why Goodyear says you can't repair in the inner and outer tread block is that you can't get the inner mushroom cap to glue properly to the curved surface of the inside of the tire in those locations.

Juicehead · 05-18-2011, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerox445

Don't go to Goodyear.

You could also pick up a plug kit for 10 dollars at any local auto parts store, and fix it yourself.

+1

Just plug it yourself and don't worry about it. Plugging a tire is still perfectly safe unless you are autocrossing...

I had a plug on my motorcycle (rear) for about 1k miles. Just replaced my wife's runflat (had a plug) for about 500 miles. Had to replace the tire because it stilll had a slow leak as hole was close to sidewall.

bet · 05-19-2011, 04:37 PM

I will be surprised if you can find any reputable shop to fix that tire. Most shops will not even look at it if it on the outer tread block. Not saying it isn't "fixable" but most shops will not do it.

Vectors2final · 05-19-2011, 09:06 PM

Discount tire will do it for free. I don't know about where you're from, but the one here does decent work and are good people. I had one there in just about the exact same spot on my Dunlop SP01 Sports, and it worked out and never had any issues.

135iNewb · 05-20-2011, 04:59 PM

I've had one in my oem rft for months. You might find the cheap plugs will leak. I had to fill it up every 3 days or so. Then I pulled the plug out, and stuffed 2 of them in there. Sealed it up tighter than a ducks butt.

Hops128i · 05-20-2011, 08:30 PM

it's easier to plug it yourself than to get a major shop to repair a rft, my experience is they won't bec it's a rft. I've found plugging a tire is easy but it helps to ream a bigger hole with a drill. and you really have to get angry tool that threads the plug into tire, well that's been my experience.

Satalite · 05-20-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vectors2final

Discount tire will do it for free. I don't know about where you're from, but the one here does decent work and are good people. I had one there in just about the exact same spot on my Dunlop SP01 Sports, and it worked out and never had any issues.

+1 My shop even does special plugging for RFTs so I am confident that it is quality work.

soupy · 05-21-2011, 03:42 PM

Just to follow up what I did. I tried the cheap $7 plug kit from Advanced but it'd still leak a tiny bit of air over time. You can hear it 'pop' out air. I checked online through TireRack's preferred installers list and found a reputable local shop (amusingly, they specialized in Goodyear & Toyo). They pulled the tire off, used a mushroom patch/plug from the inside, remounted, and rebalanced. Ended up being around $32 plus tax.

ZIPNBYE · 05-24-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerox445

You could also pick up a plug kit for 10 dollars at any local auto parts store, and fix it yourself.

Temporary fix.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe

Be aware that the proper repair of a runflat is remove tire from the wheel and insert/glue a mushroom type plug with the stem pulled thru the hole and the cap glued to the inside of the tire.

Ding, a winner!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicehead

Just plug it yourself and don't worry about it. Plugging a tire is still perfectly safe unless you are autocrossing...

Bad advice. Street driving, for long periods will heat a tire way more than a 60-120sec autocross run.

The proper fix for any flat is the mushroom-shaped patch/plug combination. And per the OP's post in which it was so fixed, I'm surprised that any shop would shy away from such a fix. Properly done it'll fix any hole up to the sidewall...it's just that some shops shy away from the perceived liability...thank you to the over-litigous US.

llowlife · 05-25-2011, 04:58 PM

You guys don't need my 2 cents but your gonna get it anyway.

Background- Worked for Goodyear for many moons, still do all my own car and motorcycle tire and non tire related repairs.
The only way I will repair one of my own tires is with a plug/patch ("mushroom" as it were). A regular patch is okay for a normal street driven car retaining reasonable speeds and will never go on one of my street bikes. It costs no more to use a plug/patch. A plug has the ability even if properly installed to separate ply's within the tire which may not be noticed. You can on 4 wheels take this chance if you so desire and possible be fine. You also may not be fine. The point is you have 4 wheels. On a bike when it comes to tires, "might" is not even a consideration. To the OP, the nail was close to not being repairable, if it came into my shop I would have torn it down and made the decision when I saw it from the inside.

My long winded opinion boils down to, don't risk it guys. Spend the money to do it right the first time. The motorcycle reference is for the purpose of siting safety first. If I won't do it on a bike why do it on a car?

05-17-2011, 06:18 PM	#1
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xerox445 Damenslip-Tropfer 23 Rep 543 Posts Drives: 2008 SGM 135i Join Date: May 2011 Location: LBI, NJ iTrader: (1)	Yeah, thats not too close to the sidewall, your good to go.
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05-17-2011, 07:59 PM	#6
soupy First Lieutenant 15 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 09 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NoVa iTrader: (1)	thanks for the reassurance guys! I'll swing by the tire shop tomorrow __________________ Alpine White, Coral Red Leather, Sport Package, 6MT
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05-17-2011, 08:08 PM	#7
Walt White Coupe Captain 223 Rep 738 Posts Drives: 2013 650ix Coupe, 23 C8 Vette Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Phila, PA iTrader: (0)	You may be disappointed. In the Goodyear Supercar runflats on my vette, Goodyear will not repair any puncture that's in the inner or outermost tread block. That nail location would be considered "unrepairable" under Goodyear criteria since it's in the outer tread block.
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05-17-2011, 10:44 PM	#9
Walt White Coupe Captain 223 Rep 738 Posts Drives: 2013 650ix Coupe, 23 C8 Vette Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Phila, PA iTrader: (0)	Be aware that the proper repair of a runflat is remove tire from the wheel and insert/glue a mushroom type plug with the stem pulled thru the hole and the cap glued to the inside of the tire.
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05-18-2011, 10:37 AM	#11
Walt White Coupe Captain 223 Rep 738 Posts Drives: 2013 650ix Coupe, 23 C8 Vette Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Phila, PA iTrader: (0)	And I believe the reason why Goodyear says you can't repair in the inner and outer tread block is that you can't get the inner mushroom cap to glue properly to the curved surface of the inside of the tire in those locations.
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05-19-2011, 04:37 PM	#13
bet Enlisted Member 1 Rep 34 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana iTrader: (0)	I will be surprised if you can find any reputable shop to fix that tire. Most shops will not even look at it if it on the outer tread block. Not saying it isn't "fixable" but most shops will not do it. __________________ Brian
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Vectors2final Brigadier General 1453 Rep 3,381 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 YMB/SS ZCP Join Date: May 2011 Location: Austin, Tx iTrader: (0)	Discount tire will do it for free. I don't know about where you're from, but the one here does decent work and are good people. I had one there in just about the exact same spot on my Dunlop SP01 Sports, and it worked out and never had any issues.
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05-20-2011, 04:59 PM	#15
135iNewb Private First Class 15 Rep 146 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nunyas iTrader: (0)	I've had one in my oem rft for months. You might find the cheap plugs will leak. I had to fill it up every 3 days or so. Then I pulled the plug out, and stuffed 2 of them in there. Sealed it up tighter than a ducks butt.
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Hops128i Captain 71 Rep 675 Posts Drives: 2010 128i, manual, sport pkg Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland iTrader: (0)	it's easier to plug it yourself than to get a major shop to repair a rft, my experience is they won't bec it's a rft. I've found plugging a tire is easy but it helps to ream a bigger hole with a drill. and you really have to get angry tool that threads the plug into tire, well that's been my experience. __________________ 2010 128i manual, sport package, performance exhaust, Vorshlag camber plates, Bilstein B6 struts/shocks, 245/40/17 ZIII square on et 40 with rolled rear fenders.
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soupy First Lieutenant 15 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 09 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NoVa iTrader: (1)	Just to follow up what I did. I tried the cheap $7 plug kit from Advanced but it'd still leak a tiny bit of air over time. You can hear it 'pop' out air. I checked online through TireRack's preferred installers list and found a reputable local shop (amusingly, they specialized in Goodyear & Toyo). They pulled the tire off, used a mushroom patch/plug from the inside, remounted, and rebalanced. Ended up being around $32 plus tax. __________________ Alpine White, Coral Red Leather, Sport Package, 6MT
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llowlife Private First Class 6 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 09' 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mn iTrader: (0)	You guys don't need my 2 cents but your gonna get it anyway. Background- Worked for Goodyear for many moons, still do all my own car and motorcycle tire and non tire related repairs. The only way I will repair one of my own tires is with a plug/patch ("mushroom" as it were). A regular patch is okay for a normal street driven car retaining reasonable speeds and will never go on one of my street bikes. It costs no more to use a plug/patch. A plug has the ability even if properly installed to separate ply's within the tire which may not be noticed. You can on 4 wheels take this chance if you so desire and possible be fine. You also may not be fine. The point is you have 4 wheels. On a bike when it comes to tires, "might" is not even a consideration. To the OP, the nail was close to not being repairable, if it came into my shop I would have torn it down and made the decision when I saw it from the inside. My long winded opinion boils down to, don't risk it guys. Spend the money to do it right the first time. The motorcycle reference is for the purpose of siting safety first. If I won't do it on a bike why do it on a car? __________________ 09 135i Cobb e30 tune, VRSF DP's, 7"intercooler, Chargepipe w/ Tial BOV, RB PVC, Wavetrac LSD, KN air filter, More suspension upgrades than I can remember. Alpina tranny flash. I am putting the mods here in case I DO forget. Coming soon to a 135i near you, a one off exhaust and a one off oil cooler.
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