No more guessing Pothole, here's the surprise

[Taskmaster]

LOVE it.

Question though, I always thought they would be $$$ to maintain, no?

[MarkkyyMan]

Cool car. I always love the shape of those rear quarters, reminds me of a woman's hips. The whale tail is always a plus too.

How is the maintenance and reliability for air cooled engines?

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Pothole

So are you going to mod this? Maybe a euro rear bumper?

She is going to stay pretty stock. I'm in it for the expierence of the car.

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Coincidentally, did you catch the discussion on the 911 on AFTER/DRIVE...?

I did not, I'll get on it when I have some free time.

Originally Posted by NorthernDancer

I'm a former owner of an older 911T and yes they are very special cars, truly like no other. Two years ago I wanted a 993 & looked long and hard but didn't find one before winter. This was the time when they were jumping up in price; when I started looking a good 993 could be had for $25-$30K. Next year, they were $30-$40K and I stopped looking & bought the 128. Nowadays smart money goes to the Carrera models of 1983 (I think) to 1989. Congrats on the car, its gorgeous and these cars are generally best kept stock except for updated Porsche parts (chain tensioners come to mind). Also I recommend joining PCA.

'84 to '88 is the 3.2 Carrera like I have. '83 would still be the SC and '89 would be the first year of the 964, which had an engine that was unsealed from the factory. Basically necessitates a reseal right away. Chain tensioners are an upgrade to the SC that originated from this model.

Already a member of the PCA, they have the best track days.

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

LOVE it.

Question though, I always thought they would be $$$ to maintain, no?

If you buy a good one that has been properly garaged and taken care of, it really doesn't cost much more than a 128i to maintain.

Highly labor intensive things like fixing rust and trashed engines from poor maintenance/crap driving will cost you.

Originally Posted by MarkkyyMan

Cool car. I always love the shape of those rear quarters, reminds me of a woman's hips. The whale tail is always a plus too.

How is the maintenance and reliability for air cooled engines?

Absolutely rock solid in the SC and 3.2 Carreras. They used the the turbo block with the turbos removed, so they are quite understressed from the factory. Maintenance is your normal fluid changes(though 13.5 quarts of oil), valve adjustments, and engine fan belt checking. Think of it like a pre-flight check list.

With proper fluid changes and such, people usually go ~300k before a rebuild.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Yes, even at 6'5" I fit fine.

If Walter fits in it, everyone can too.



Congrats, StIG. Drive her, drift her, rev her and feel the good ole times... and upload some vids for us, plebs, who aren't as lucky as you!

[bmw1racer]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I did not, I'll get on it when I have some free time.

Great.

I thought it was a really interesting discussion.

[Black Prinz]

Very nice! Although in all honesty those diving board bumpers got to go.

BRZ is gone?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by swagon

If Walter fits in it, everyone can too.



Congrats, StIG. Drive her, drift her, rev her and feel the good ole times... and upload some vids for us, plebs, who aren't as lucky as you!

LOL'd at the 'polishing'

[631twentyeighteye]

Sweet jesus! 13.5 quarts. I thought 7 quarts in our 3.0's was a lot

Then again, the more oil the longer it has to lose some heat before it gets recirculated.

[hatepotholez]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Don't worry, 128i is still in the garage.

I wasn't planning on doing this so soon, but with classic car/air-cooled 911 market going through the roof, I felt like I had to get on it before the opportunity got away(1015, get on this before the market gets completely away). Long story short, my years of eying up the market turned into only two weeks of searching, and resulted in finding a really nice example of what I wanted.

The end result was a 1985 3.2 Carrera coupe. My perfect blend of unassisted steering, unassisted clutch, no ABS, no traction control, a wonderfully fiddly transmission, and mechanical everything. The steering is immediate and unbelievably feelsome, the shifter works at it own speed, the engine grumbles about everything, the car feels rock solid despite weighing ~2500lbs, cable drive throttle and clutch are perfection, the view is excellent and you can see what every part of the car is doing at all times.

It is the most fundamentally different driving experience I have ever had. Nothing relates in the slightest.

I'm never selling this car.


Few shots around the car:

















Safely arrived home via the trailer. I saw no reason to subject it to driving through New York city and general highway awfulness. Plus, I want to give a thorough once over before I go on a 4 hour trip.





Yes, even at 6'5" I fit fine. I do have a steering wheel spacer on the way though to bring it up off the dash. And eventually I will probably swap it to the Momo Protipo.

Beautiful, congrats on the 911! Classic all the way!

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by NorthernDancer

...Nowadays smart money goes to the Carrera models of 1983 (I think) to 1989.

+1. Yup.

A good friend of mine has a '86 930S flacht bau(slope nose). It's a factory slope nose car(all metal) and it's wonderful. I think the price back in the day was close to $170K. It's a rare bird. My buddy calls "it" his white elephant, jokingly. It's a very rare car.

The guy he bought it from bought a even rarer 911. He got a 965 Turbo S2 slope nose. This was the last air-cooled turbo before the 993TT. It had 928-like headlights with a slope nose from the factory AND it had 959-like air intakes in/on top of the rear quarter flares. I forget how much power it had from the factor but I want to say 460 HP. I remember it had more power than the AWD 993TT did(400 HP) back then.

[edisapimp]

Really Nice car! It's pretty. I am in the market for a 911 Targa (because I like shit without roofs).

You're right about the market. I couldn't believe how it's gone up in the last 3 years. I should have bought one when nobody wanted them.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by edisapimp

Really Nice car! It's pretty. I am in the market for a 911 Targa (because I like shit without roofs).

You're right about the market. I couldn't believe how it's gone up in the last 3 years. I should have bought one when nobody wanted them.

Targas are easily the most prevalent(and usually 10% cheaper), so you should have pretty good variety to pick from. Just factor in the cost of replacing the seals as most of them are shot.

[Iron Man]

Congrats! That is a beauty. One day I will own a Porsche, just might be awhile. That is what will replace my 128i when I do.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Congrats! That is a beauty. One day I will own a Porsche, just might be awhile. That is what will replace my 128i when I do.

Any thoughts on time period?

[Dafttt]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Congrats! That is a beauty. One day I will own a Porsche, just might be awhile. That is what will replace my 128i when I do.

Jump on it! 964/993's are turning into investments, and will be absurdly priced in 5 years.

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Any thoughts on time period?

I was thinking in about 5 years. I haven't done much research yet.

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by Daft Auto

Jump on it! 964/993's are turning into investments, and will be absurdly priced in 5 years.

That is good to know. Might have to change my timeline.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

That is good to know. Might have to change my timeline.

Everything is currently getting pushed through the roof. 964s have stayed the most stable. 993s by virtue of being the last ones made are up to $35k-$50k for a standard Carrera. SCs and 3.2 Carreras are up 50% from two years ago. Even the mid years are getting close to SC pricing.

[wolfe]

Very nice, congratulations! It's crazy how much stuff PCA puts on for members.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Sweet jesus! 13.5 quarts. I thought 7 quarts in our 3.0's was a lot

People always say they are "air cooled" engines. They are actually "oil cooled" engines.

[andrey_gta]

Brings back NFS - Porsche edition memories

[Southjersey128]

Congrats Stig, she's beautiful. I keep telling my boss, now is the time to buy one before they're too expensive. He's closing in on 60 years old, kids are out of college, but he just won't pull the trigger. Of course I just want it to happen so I can drive it.