1M prices

[Knightelf]

Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

Anyone know if you will be able to option the HK sound on the Pure Model? Love the HK in the 1er.

Is the HiFi system in the 2 any good?

Not sure if the M2 will be the same but the 2er hifi sucks. The HK is "ok", but inferior to the HK in the 3/4 series. If you want to get a m2 pure edition with decent sound, just install aftermarket amp and speakers.

[phunky_monkey]

Originally Posted by kaitan

...when you WOT and there are no tyre slips! unlike the 1M even sometimes 3rd gear WOT tyre slips.

3rd gear wheelspin is the single best thing about our cars, next to the disgustingly fat guards

[PG]

not that I can afford it, but official prices are up:

BMW M2 pricing (plus on-road costs):
M2 Pure $89,900
M2 $98,900

BMW M2 specifications:
M2 Pure
Bi-xenon headlights
Driving Assistant with Approach Control Warning, Lane Departure Warning, Pedestrian Warning, light city braking function and Attentiveness Assistant
Reverse-view camera with rear sensors
Cruise control with braking function
Connected Drive Services, TeleServices, Intelligent Emergency Call, Remote Services, Internet, Concierge Services and Real Time Traffic Information
Dakota leather upholstery
Carbonfibre interior trim
Climate control
HiFi sound system
Navigation system Professional
DAB+ digital radio
Tyre pressure monitor
Interior and exterior mirrors with anti-dazzle
Interior lights package

M2 (adds over M2 Pure)
Seven-speed M dual-clutch transmission with Drivelogic
Adaptive headlights with BMW Selective Beam (anti-dazzle high beam assist)
Comfort Access System
Harman Kardon surround sound system
Electric front seat adjustment with electric lumbar
Heated front seats
Alarm System

[martymil]

Originally Posted by phunky_monkey

3rd gear wheelspin is the single best thing about our cars, next to the disgustingly fat guards

+1 nothing else like it

[T1M]

Originally Posted by kaitan

I had a RS3 spec up with sunroof and choice of colour. RRP was about $97 drive away and I managed to get $94 drive away. I must say the exhaust of the RS3 is intoxicating vs the 1M! The pop and crackle makes me giggle all the time! But it still does not feel as connected as the 1M.

But I like the fact that it is AWD especially when you WOT and there are no tyre slips! unlike the 1M even sometimes 3rd gear WOT tyre slips.

Yeah stock it sounds pretty damn good in that dirty 5 cylinder way. Heard a 1M with the HMS exhaust today and it sounded (IMO) way better than the RS3 - a much more highly strung tight sound - not the RS3 5 pot where you aren't sure if the car coming is a farm tractor or a car

[kaitan]

Originally Posted by einserM

Yeah stock it sounds pretty damn good in that dirty 5 cylinder way. Heard a 1M with the HMS exhaust today and it sounded (IMO) way better than the RS3 - a much more highly strung tight sound - not the RS3 5 pot where you aren't sure if the car coming is a farm tractor or a car

How much a kit like that would cost?

[Zuzu]

Originally Posted by kaitan

How much a kit like that would cost?

Here are Quangs posts with pix of his install in regards to his HMS.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=734281&page=9

[Piets94]

Originally Posted by kaitan

How much a kit like that would cost?

About 5k. Valvetronic system. Made to order in Germany

[T1M]

Originally Posted by Piets94

About 5k. Valvetronic system. Made to order in Germany

Meeting you literally cost me 5K. I can't not buy one of those now.

[Piets94]

Originally Posted by einserM

Meeting you literally cost me 5K. I can't not buy one of those now.

Yeah, I hate seeing parts on other people's cars that you then love and have to have. I'm so tempted by the Awron dash gauge, but don't want to lose a dash vent (especially in the 40+ heat we've had recently).

Getting back on topic, I see 1M prices dropping in the short term as more come onto market from those trading into the M2, but it's such a special/iconic car that if it doesn't go up again in value, it at least will reach a bottom point where prices will remain steady.

The 1M represents the pinnacle of the N54 application and has great tuning potential. I don't see the N55 in the M2 touching a tuned 1M. Stock for stock, the M2 is undoubtedly a better car - 5 years of development SHOULD see to that. But I don't think that makes the 1M any less desirable - just older.

I'm keeping mine. But IF I ever sell, I can part out the HMS to you if you haven't dropped 5k already on one

[_Ryan_]

Originally Posted by phunky_monkey

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...sweet spot seems to be high 60's for something around 40k, and then up to 80k for the sub-10k cars, with the rest proportionally priced in-between.

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I also think most cars would have been bought on a 3 year lease, hence the amount of cars for sale earlier this year. With the M2 coming out, we may see the highest influx of cars to the market next to early this year, so would probably be the time to buy.

I'm interested to see what happens in Q3.

The 1M isn't a collectable, an M3 CSL is.

[T1M]

Originally Posted by Piets94

Yeah, I hate seeing parts on other people's cars that you then love and have to have. I'm so tempted by the Awron dash gauge, but don't want to lose a dash vent (especially in the 40+ heat we've had recently).

Getting back on topic, I see 1M prices dropping in the short term as more come onto market from those trading into the M2, but it's such a special/iconic car that if it doesn't go up again in value, it at least will reach a bottom point where prices will remain steady.

The 1M represents the pinnacle of the N54 application and has great tuning potential. I don't see the N55 in the M2 touching a tuned 1M. Stock for stock, the M2 is undoubtedly a better car - 5 years of development SHOULD see to that. But I don't think that makes the 1M any less desirable - just older.

I'm keeping mine. But IF I ever sell, I can part out the HMS to you if you haven't dropped 5k already on one

Yeah, I think they're a special car and as you say the pinnacle of the N54. When BMW was still making pure cars too, hydraulic steering, 6 speed manual but with niceties like comfort access, HK stereo, adaptive lights etc and the very strong exterior styling with no expense spared M3 running gear. Few corners were cut with the 1M, they wanted to make the best 1er possible and that shows.

It remains to be seen how good the M2 really is, but from an aesthetic standpoint, it's already much tamer.

If you do sell, absolutely let me know and if I don't have one already I'll take the exhaust of your hands!

[phunky_monkey]

Originally Posted by einserM

Meeting you literally cost me 5K. I can't not buy one of those now.

Sounds good, doesn't it??

Originally Posted by einserM

Yeah, I think they're a special car and as you say the pinnacle of the N54. When BMW was still making pure cars too, hydraulic steering, 6 speed manual but with niceties like comfort access, HK stereo, adaptive lights etc and the very strong exterior styling with no expense spared M3 running gear. Few corners were cut with the 1M, they wanted to make the best 1er possible and that shows.

Yup. It's definitely the high water mark for me and I'm not sure we'll see something quite so 'pure' again, hence why mine won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

[Piets94]

The 1M isn't a collectable, an M3 CSL is.

Yeah, I agree with this. Too many examples in OZ to be collectable. Maybe a super low kms example would be 'collectable' to a few people. But, the car is no doubt desirable, and this alone will ensure prices remain robust and drop at a slower rate.

E46 CSL prices today are around 100-120k, but brand new were 210k. So if a collectable can depreciate near 50%, the 1M certainly will drop a little more.

[BMWmaniac1]

I would have to say in a year or two the 1M is going to be a collectors item. At one point this year you could pick one up for mid $60k and now they are all going for high $70k-$80k.

[kaitan]

Originally Posted by BMWmaniac1

I would have to say in a year or two the 1M is going to be a collectors item. At one point this year you could pick one up for mid $60k and now they are all going for high $70k-$80k.

Depending on mileage. Now most cars has about 30-40k Mileage. and they are asking for $80k roughly.

But definitely agree that it will be a collector as it's Analog (1M) vs Digital (M2)

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by kaitan

Depending on mileage. Now most cars has about 30-40k Mileage. and they are asking for $80k roughly.

But definitely agree that it will be a collector as it's Analog (1M) vs Digital (M2)

Disagree, there are 300 in aus, just too many thank you BMW. (It was supposed to be a 100 car number for aus, but events like the tsunami in Japan in '11 meant there were many more allocations given to aus).

The CSL, yep special and very collectible, only 23 cars came here, plus a few grey ones since.

[martymil]

here are some stats on the 1M

Funny the black ones are the rarest

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=53

I wish we could find out how many is left in the country.

Seen a few written off ones over the last few years.

[Iceman21]

RHD cars are allowed in the UK?

If yes, I wonder if the prices of the 1Ms in Oz are being held up as a hedge to the forex drop.

[martymil]

yes rhd in uk

1m in the uk fetch 100k aud plus for low km ones

[05C4R]

Originally Posted by Iceman21

RHD cars are allowed in the UK?

what?

[05C4R]

Originally Posted by Iceman21

I wonder if the prices of the 1Ms in Oz are being held up as a hedge to the forex drop.

what?