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      01-27-2018, 12:44 PM   #23
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Which companies make tube & fun models?

Wagner EVO I & II competition models.

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Which companies make tube & fun models?

Wagner EVO I & II competition models.

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Only Wagner makes tube and fin intercoolers
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      04-25-2018, 10:32 PM   #27
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Wagner EVO I Performance Intercooler vs stock
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I have an opportunity to pickup a Wagner Performance EVO 1

Are there data logs/dynos available? I've been searching for a few hours now and there is some smattering of information but this 'test' keeps coming up. Done by a competitor of course, the test makes the Wagner look bad but unless they didn't weight it correctly, it seems that they weren't testing an actual Wagner unit.

http://www.mosselmanturbo.com/wp-con..._Mosselman.pdf

The Performance EVO 1 is 9kg (20lbs). The unit they claim to have tested weighed in at 5.6kg - not even close. This is lighter than any unit Wagner produces (including their tube and fin cores). What did they test? Assuming this test is BS and as Wagner FMIC have always had reasonable/good reviews - are there logs to show the results? Dyno data is somewhat useful but I'm looking for anything.

Plans for my car are never to go beyond the 550-600hp mark as I'd like the car to remain reliable, streetable but still trackable. Will be running stock turbos, FBO (currently procede but switching to JB4/MHD Backend shortly) and run stage 2 turbos once the stockers wear out.

Would the Wagner suffice until I move beyond the stock turbos or do i just bite the bullet and get the EVO 2 comp or the ER. Car will see frequent spirited driving plus some track days.

I'm particularly worried about the pressure loss with the stock turbo's. Here in Canada, this factors in as i'm not dealing with temps over 30C/85f that often. I don't want to loose power for 75% of the time due to pressure loss when IAT aren't as much of a concern...
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I plan on tracking the car around 3 times per year, otherwise its a daily. Stock for now, but I may get the pure stage 2 turbo at some point. Is this AMS unit overkill?https://www.x-ph.com/ams-front-mount...bmw-335i-135i/
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I plan on tracking the car around 3 times per year, otherwise its a daily. Stock for now, but I may get the pure stage 2 turbo at some point. Is this AMS unit overkill?https://www.x-ph.com/ams-front-mount...bmw-335i-135i/
Hi,
Are you not tuning your car at all?
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Hi,
Are you not tuning your car at all?
for the time being, no. It only has BMW's PPK1
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for the time being, no. It only has BMW's PPK1
Wagner EVO I Competition for stock tune
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Wagner EVO I Competition for stock tune
I understand. My question was where does the AMS unit fall? Too much for a fairly stock car that is tracked occasionally? What about if the car was full bolt ons? Or Pure stage 2? I only ask because AMS is the gold standard in the Evo world, and I have experience with them with the Evo I use to own.
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I understand. My question was where does the AMS unit fall? Too much for a fairly stock car that is tracked occasionally? What about if the car was full bolt ons? Or Pure stage 2? I only ask because AMS is the gold standard in the Evo world, and I have experience with them with the Evo I use to own.
I would probably place it close to Wagner EVO I Performance
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I would probably place it close to Wagner EVO I Performance
ok, thanks
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Anybody have an experience with CP-E’s FMIC...?
http://cp-e.com/shop/product/bmw-n54...t-intercooler/
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We offer it, its an ok intercooler.

Kind of outdated by today's standards
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We offer it, its an ok intercooler.

Kind of outdated by today's standards
Just out of curiosity...
What makes it outdated vs a Wagner or VRSF...?
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Just out of curiosity...
What makes it outdated vs a Wagner or VRSF...?
Its a single core 5.5" vs the newer stepped core that provide better cooling

Core density is okay not the best

For the price you can get much better intercoolers
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Its a single core 5.5" vs the newer stepped core that provide better cooling

Core density is okay not the best

For the price you can get much better intercoolers

Thanks for the input...
My plans are to stay around 400-500 range for a good while...
Any recommendations?
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Thanks for the input...
My plans are to stay around 400-500 range for a good while...
Any recommendations?
Wagner EVO II or VRSF 7" HD
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Wagner EVO II or VRSF 7" HD
Kool...
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