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      10-13-2017, 12:53 PM   #331
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I want to do trans & diff soon. This DIY is a fabulous help. One issue is access to trans filler plug. I think OP said low profile tool needed. My 8mm hex socket is 1/2 inch drive and 2 1/8 inch long. Its got vice grip marks on the body so obviously I've used it before in a tight situation. With my 1/2 inch breaker bar on the socket, I'm now at 3 inches. Will report after I do the work on exactly how things work out, ie: how much clearance we have to access the fill plug.
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I want to do trans & diff soon. This DIY is a fabulous help. One issue is access to trans filler plug. I think OP said low profile tool needed. My 8mm hex socket is 1/2 inch drive and 2 1/8 inch long. Its got vice grip marks on the body so obviously I've used it before in a tight situation. With my 1/2 inch breaker bar on the socket, I'm now at 3 inches. Will report after I do the work on exactly how things work out, ie: how much clearance we have to access the fill plug.
FWIW on an N54 1M, a regular 3/8" 8mm hex bit socket fit without any need for low profile tool modifications.
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      10-19-2017, 05:28 PM   #333
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I want to do trans & diff soon. This DIY is a fabulous help. One issue is access to trans filler plug. I think OP said low profile tool needed. My 8mm hex socket is 1/2 inch drive and 2 1/8 inch long. Its got vice grip marks on the body so obviously I've used it before in a tight situation. With my 1/2 inch breaker bar on the socket, I'm now at 3 inches. Will report after I do the work on exactly how things work out, ie: how much clearance we have to access the fill plug.
I don't know IF there is three inches of clearance up on the side of the trans. I think there is... but I am not 100% sure. Please report back.

Here is the Hazet tool I use... I got mine locally here in DE years ago for ~30 euros. I can't believe what they are charging for it now...


Here it is on Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com/HAZET-Chrom-V...+tool+17mm+hex

Here it is on Amazon.de
https://www.amazon.de/HAZET-2760-Haz...rds=hazet+2760

And here on KC Tools...
https://www.kctoolco.com/search.php?...ection=product

Maybe get yourself a "stubby" 17 mm hex socket in 3/8th from Harbor Frieght. Or from SnapOn.

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Anyone have any trouble removing the trans filler plug? Mine is on there on tight! Is it reverse thread or something? I'm a little afraid to try too hard to break torque in either direction...and there's not enough clearance for my go-to cheater bar. Any tips?
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Anyone have any trouble removing the trans filler plug? Mine is on there on tight! Is it reverse thread or something? I'm a little afraid to try too hard to break torque in either direction...and there's not enough clearance for my go-to cheater bar. Any tips?

IF its the first time removing the fill plug... yeah... it is TIGHT! Best thing is to use a new 8mm allen socket(or L-key) with a small cheater bar. It should break loose.

No its not left hand threads. Remember righty, tighty... sometime you can get disoriented when you are laying under the car.

Besure to remove the "fill" plug before draining your trans oil!!

I think the fill and drain plugs are a 8mm allen/socket/hex.

Looking on Amazon here is a nice set. But I am sure you could also pick up something at your local Harbor Freight or Sears or AutoZone.

https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-1...bby+socket+set

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IF its the first time removing the fill plug... yeah... it is TIGHT! Best thing is to use a new 8mm allen socket(or L-key) with a small cheater bar. It should break loose.

No its not left hand threads. Remember righty, tighty... sometime you can get disoriented when you are laying under the car.

Besure to remove the "fill" plug before draining your trans oil!!

I think the fill and drain plugs are a 8mm allen/socket/hex.

Looking on Amazon here is a nice set. But I am sure you could also pick up something at your local Harbor Freight or Sears or AutoZone.

https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-1...bby+socket+set

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Thanks, Dack!

I finally got both plugs off - it was just a matter of finding just the right angle that I could barely slip on my cheater bar (one-half of a floor jack handle). Not much space between the transmission and the ground on jack stands, and (like you mentioned) I was afraid that I might have been turned around and disoriented, and wanted to make extra sure it wasn't a left-handed bolt or something (although that would be a really odd place for one, admittedly).
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Hey guys! I've read through this thread and cannot make a clear decision.... I have a 2008 328Xi 6spd So which transmission fluid is best for ease of shifting for summer and winter and safe for both bearings and synchro's ??
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Hey guys! I've read through this thread and cannot make a clear decision.... I have a 2008 328Xi 6spd So which transmission fluid is best for ease of shifting for summer and winter and safe for both bearings and synchro's ??
What is specified for your vehicle?

I ran Pentoson FFL-3, IIRC, because it crossed to he ZF spec that crossed to the BMW MTL spec for my 135. Ive been happy.

Lower viscosity lubricants will perform better in the cold but compromise high temperature performance to a point. Higher viscosity will be more difficult to shift in some conditions. Some fluids may have friction modifiers that affect synchronization.
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What is specified for your vehicle?

I ran Pentoson FFL-3, IIRC, because it crossed to he ZF spec that crossed to the BMW MTL spec for my 135. Ive been happy.

Lower viscosity lubricants will perform better in the cold but compromise high temperature performance to a point. Higher viscosity will be more difficult to shift in some conditions. Some fluids may have friction modifiers that affect synchronization.

I have the GM 6spd transmission
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What is specified for your vehicle?

I ran Pentoson FFL-3, IIRC, because it crossed to he ZF spec that crossed to the BMW MTL spec for my 135. Ive been happy.

Lower viscosity lubricants will perform better in the cold but compromise high temperature performance to a point. Higher viscosity will be more difficult to shift in some conditions. Some fluids may have friction modifiers that affect synchronization.
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I have the GM 6spd transmission
I would use Redline oils. Either Redline ATF-D4 or MTL. The ATF-D4 flows better at colder temps(If you park your car outdoors). Even though it's an ATF... its safe to run in your manual trans. You can also look on Redline's own website for suggested fluids. I think they will say to use ATF-D6 or MTL. But I prefer AFT-D4 for my 135i 6 speed manual. You will need a little over 2.1 liters of trans oil

For the diff you can use either a 75w140 or a 75w90 gear oil from Redline. You will need some way to suck out the old diff fluid - with a fluid extractor. You will need a little over 1.1 liters of diff oil.

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Hi folks,

Great discussion. I struggled to find a replacement to my F82 6MT trans oil and this thread helped a lot.

1. I called redline. Interestingly enough:

BMW MTF LT-5 = Redline DCTF #31004

https://www.redlineoil.com/dctf-dual...smission-fluid

He said this is the recommendation on the newer transmissions. Check the pics & website.

2. I did an extensive search as well

BMW MTF LT-5 = Pentosin FFL3 #1052107

http://pentosin.net/catalogs/Pentosi...dGuide2016.pdf

These are 2 respectful companies offering DCT oil for manual transmission. I may go with redline and update you.

Hope this helps.

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Hi folks,

Great discussion. I struggled to find a replacement to my F82 6MT trans oil and this thread helped a lot.

1. I called redline. Interestingly enough:

BMW MTF LT-5 = Redline DCTF #31004

https://www.redlineoil.com/dctf-dual...smission-fluid

He said this is the recommendation on the newer transmissions. Check the pics & website.

2. I did an extensive search as well

BMW MTF LT-5 = Pentosin FFL3 #1052107

http://pentosin.net/catalogs/Pentosi...dGuide2016.pdf

These are 2 respectful companies offering DCT oil for manual transmission. I may go with redline and update you.

Hope this helps.

M Vier
My finding was the same as yours regarding Pentosin fluids being appropriate replacements.

To be honest, Ive never been that impressed with the longevity/sustained shift feel from Redline fluids. Ive noted this in E30 and VW manual transmissions. For both of those, Amsoil far outshined the redline fluids after "the honeymoon". Redline was also noisy in my E30 LSD, when other fluids werent, and it behaved the same way, it just degraded (got louder) over time.

People put too high a value on redline. Now, if its much easier and cheaper to get than the Pentosin or OE fluid, Im willing to give anything a try, but I dont put a ton of faith.

Redline has also sold out to big oil, FWIW.

Their Si-1 fuel additive, their grease, etc. are great. Im not anti-redline, and have and use a LOT of their products. Im just not as convinced about their gear oils personally...
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      07-15-2018, 04:49 PM   #343
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I like redline gear oils. I used them in my SUV and recently changed my manual transmission. I put in MTL when I had about 7,000 miles and put in D4 when I had 70,000. It seemed wrong to put in automatic fluid in my manual but I am happy to report it works well. The effort level with the MTL was not high but it is lower with the D4. I did not expect that. Especially on downshifts, the gears seem to engage easier. We'll see what it's like in 50K-70K miles but I suspect it will still be working well.

I used a cheap harbor freight allen socket on both fluid changes. It is 1/2 drive. I shortened it this time with an angle grinder. I could use it without shortening but it is easier now that it is shorter. I just cut off what wouldn't go into the transmission plugs anyway. Took longer to walk to the shop and get out the grinder than to make the cut.
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