Power seats?

Dave · 01-09-2008, 07:12 AM

Manual seats so I can have lower pov and Also save weight and may do after market seats later and power would make that very complicated

larryn · 01-09-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Surname

That was subtle...:wink:

I try. :wink:

mikeo · 01-09-2008, 07:42 AM

It's not trivial, MastaMind, but I'm a little foggy in my recollection on that point. You need to talk to a good CA or get a demo in a base 3-series.

ChrisK · 01-09-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

50lbs savings per seat???!!!! The whole seat doesn't weight that much. It's a couple of very small motors on each seat that drive a screw, that's all.

Think of what a 50lb motor would look like. This isn't a Bridgeport. :wink:

The biggest difference would be that the power seats might not be able to adjust lower, giving more head room. This can be up to an inch, but is likely less than that.

You are absolutely correct. I took the drivers seat out of my 2k M roadster, it wasn't heavy at all. The seat motors are tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if the motors vs. adjusting hardware is almost a wash.

johnny1019 · 01-09-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskurn

The seat motors are tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if the motors vs. adjusting hardware is almost a wash.

Agreed, the weight savings seems negligible to me as the two seats will pretty much have all of the same adjustment capabilities. Personally, I'll be getting the manual seats as I will be the only driver and don't want to deal with any maintenance issues that might arise with power seats.

MastaMind · 01-09-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeo

It's not trivial, MastaMind, but I'm a little foggy in my recollection on that point. You need to talk to a good CA or get a demo in a base 3-series.

Gotcha, I plan on going there this weekend, actually, and test drive a manual 335 w/ sports package. I just wanted to get excited beforehand. This would really be a benefit to those in my situation.

imported_Azzurri · 02-18-2008, 10:24 PM

I know it's a older topic, but does power seats affect resale value? Or is it better to have Manual?

ChrisK · 02-19-2008, 06:57 AM

I would say power seats would definitely help with resale.

Thud · 02-19-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1ster

I didn't make it up. This issue has been discussed here several times previously.

I think it's true that a pair of power seats weighs 100lbs.

But how much does a pair of non-power seats weigh? I'm pretty sure it's not 0 lbs.

The difference in weight is NOT 100lbs.

B25 Jim · 02-19-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thud

I think it's true that a pair of power seats weighs 100lbs.

But how much does a pair of non-power seats weigh? I'm pretty sure it's not 0 lbs.

The difference in weight is NOT 100lbs.

60 to 80 lbs max for a pair of seats. They don't weigh 50 apiece.

E82tt6 · 02-19-2008, 12:05 PM

I didn't get them, waste of money IMO. Why would I want all that extra weight in the seats? I'm perfectly capable of lifting a handle to move the seat back and forth.

60Driver · 03-09-2008, 02:44 PM

Does anybody know if the power seats sit higher than manual seats? Is so, any idea how much? The reason I ask is because when I bought a Ford Explorer for my wife I sat in one with manual seats and had plenty of headroom up to the moon roof. The Explorer we bought had power seats and I'm a little cramped vertically at 6' 2".

I test drove a 135i in Germany with manual seats and had tons of head room but ordered the Premium Package which comes with power seats.

Am I repeating a past mistake? Only time (or your accurate reply) will tell.

Bdh821 · 03-09-2008, 03:04 PM

I really want lumbar support but can't see myself getting premium package just for that. Do the sport seats with sport package have a manual lumbar support adjustment? Thanks in advance for anyone who knows!

taylor82 · 03-09-2008, 03:24 PM

I've got power seats in my current car and have ordered them in my 1er. I would settle for semi power seats (with manual forward - backwards) but since they don't exist i'm going all out power. On a long drive it's great to be able to adjust your seat to take the numbness of your ass! I wouldn't want to even attempt to adjust a manual seat whilst on the move.
However i do understand where people are coming from in regards to "more to go wrong", after nearly 6 years my drivers side power sat has stopped going forwards and backwards, i'm hoping it's just a fuse, anyone with any suggestions/experiences? (sorry, not meening to hijack the thread but i guess it has some relevance)

larryn · 03-09-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bdh821

I really want lumbar support but can't see myself getting premium package just for that. Do the sport seats with sport package have a manual lumbar support adjustment? Thanks in advance for anyone who knows!

No they do not have lumbar in the non-powered sport seats. Lumbar is added to the std seat and the sport seats with the addition of the premium package.

taylor82 · 03-09-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bdh821

I really want lumbar support but can't see myself getting premium package just for that. Do the sport seats with sport package have a manual lumbar support adjustment? Thanks in advance for anyone who knows!

Do you have lumbar support on your current car or any previous car? I just ask because i have it on mine right now and IMO it's a complete waste of money. It only seems to serve as a bit of a gadget when i'm bored and stuck in traffic to entertain me. I haven't really found a more comfortable position when using it, maybe for 5 mins untill i'm sick of feeling my spine being bent forward.
Maybe others have better past experiances than me with it? :iono:

Numb3rs · 03-09-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskurn

Here is my two cents:

Get the power seats. IMHO they give you more precise control over your seating position.

+5
Power seats might weigh, what 3lbs more? But you also have several presets that remember different drivers or even different positions for city or highway driving.

TunedM2C · 03-09-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by taylor82

Do you have lumbar support on your current car or any previous car? I just ask because i have it on mine right now and IMO it's a complete waste of money. It only seems to serve as a bit of a gadget when i'm bored and stuck in traffic to entertain me. I haven't really found a more comfortable position when using it, maybe for 5 mins untill i'm sick of feeling my spine being bent forward.
Maybe others have better past experiances than me with it? :iono:

In your opinion maybe but for myself who suffers from lower back problems, I need it. On my current cars I always have the bladder filled to it's capacity to correct posture. I may end up having to keep a lumbar pillow in the car if the manual sport seats do not offer even the slightest support.

BMW Dreamer · 03-09-2008, 07:35 PM

I am getting the manual sport seats because I sat in them and was amazed. AWESOME. But if the power seat option was $200, I would get them. NO way I will pay $1,000 for a couple little motors and switches. Plus I AM the only person driving it.

Numb3rs · 03-10-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff1962

I am getting the manual sport seats because I sat in them and was amazed. AWESOME. But if the power seat option was $200, I would get them. NO way I will pay $1,000 for a couple little motors and switches. Plus I AM the only person driving it.

That is not all you get with the powered option.

60Driver · 03-10-2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Numb3rs

That is not all you get with the powered option.

Really, what else do you get?

d3syd · 03-10-2008, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by UR2SLOW1

Yeah, I agree with "1ster" all the way...... in fact I won't let my wife get the boob job she wants because it's gonna add 3-5lbs per side.

"Weight is the enemy of performance !"

Ahh but a nice rack might be worth the penalty.

I have no choice, power seats are standard on the 135i in Australia.

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60Driver Lieutenant 6 Rep 459 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	Does anybody know if the power seats sit higher than manual seats? Is so, any idea how much? The reason I ask is because when I bought a Ford Explorer for my wife I sat in one with manual seats and had plenty of headroom up to the moon roof. The Explorer we bought had power seats and I'm a little cramped vertically at 6' 2". I test drove a 135i in Germany with manual seats and had tons of head room but ordered the Premium Package which comes with power seats. Am I repeating a past mistake? Only time (or your accurate reply) will tell. __________________ ~My other car is a Blackhawk~ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Bdh821 Major 44 Rep 1,265 Posts Drives: 2021 M550i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MA iTrader: (3)	I really want lumbar support but can't see myself getting premium package just for that. Do the sport seats with sport package have a manual lumbar support adjustment? Thanks in advance for anyone who knows!
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taylor82 Private First Class 9 Rep 169 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	I've got power seats in my current car and have ordered them in my 1er. I would settle for semi power seats (with manual forward - backwards) but since they don't exist i'm going all out power. On a long drive it's great to be able to adjust your seat to take the numbness of your ass! I wouldn't want to even attempt to adjust a manual seat whilst on the move. However i do understand where people are coming from in regards to "more to go wrong", after nearly 6 years my drivers side power sat has stopped going forwards and backwards, i'm hoping it's just a fuse, anyone with any suggestions/experiences? (sorry, not meening to hijack the thread but i guess it has some relevance)
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