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      01-05-2011, 05:45 PM   #1
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Subaru STI engine might be installed in the upcoming FT-86

Motor Trend: Toyota FT-86 to be Powered by Subaru STI Engine..

http://www.ft86club.com/

This will be a close competition to the 1M when it comes out late 2011.
...perhaps

...If they can keep their initial quoted price of mid $20,000 in the US...
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      01-05-2011, 10:27 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, that engine has had quite a few reliability issues. I'm hoping that the 2012 STI and Toyota version use a new turbocharged version of the Subaru Double Overhead Chain-driven Cam motor that has just been introduced in normally aspirated form in the 2011 Forester.
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      01-06-2011, 12:31 AM   #3
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I love the design of the car. Looks great overall. Just waiting to see how much legs it has.
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There'll actually be a flurry of new car releases through 2011 now that the GFC is recovering around the globe...

I'm actually waiting to see the new Merc C class coupe which will be a direct competitor to the 1 series...

So far it has it all over the beemer with the interior (based on the already released new updated C class) and if all the speculated print turns out to be true about offering both a TTV6 and the new TTV8 engine options, it'll end up being more than a match performance wise...

Although that TTV8 AMG variant will probably end up costing as much or more than an M3.
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Typical Japannese following German style, whats new? Ft86 concept (production track version?) looks like a 1M copy. Wonder if the side/rear vents are real?
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There'll actually be a flurry of new car releases through 2011 now that the GFC is recovering around the globe...

I'm actually waiting to see the new Merc C class coupe which will be a direct competitor to the 1 series...

So far it has it all over the beemer with the interior (based on the already released new updated C class) and if all the speculated print turns out to be true about offering both a TTV6 and the new TTV8 engine options, it'll end up being more than a match performance wise...

Although that TTV8 AMG variant will probably end up costing as much or more than an M3.
I liked the 03 C with I4SC which was priced way better than a 325Ci, but stupid MB didn't offer a proper coupe version.
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      01-06-2011, 09:31 PM   #7
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Motor Trend: Toyota FT-86 to be Powered by Subaru STI Engine..

http://www.ft86club.com/

This will be a close competition to the 1M when it comes out late 2011.
...perhaps

...If they can keep their initial quoted price of mid $20,000 in the US...
I find it hard to believe that price, same engine as the Subie but for 10k less? Subaru would lose sales unless they beef up the STI....anyone care to add on my thoughts?
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I find it hard to believe that price, same engine as the Subie but for 10k less? Subaru would lose sales unless they beef up the STI....anyone care to add on my thoughts?
I agree - they'll probably have at least 2 versions with the STI-motored version going in the $30k's and a WRX-motored version (or even a normally aspirated version) going in the $20k's.
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Typical Japannese following German style, whats new? Ft86 concept (production track version?) looks like a 1M copy. Wonder if the side/rear vents are real?
I dont see any connection
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      01-06-2011, 11:09 PM   #10
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I dont see any connection
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I find it hard to believe that price, same engine as the Subie but for 10k less? Subaru would lose sales unless they beef up the STI....anyone care to add on my thoughts?
The story I read is that it is a boxer motor produced in collaboration with subaru. Not the STi motor.

The guys on the toyota forums sound like we did (naive) when they mentioned the 1M. Only they might have more cause to rejoice lol.
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I dont see any connection
http://www.ft86club.com/?p=345
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      01-06-2011, 11:16 PM   #13
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God how long have they been talking about this car? Years now?
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You might have to spell it out. I don't think it's as clear as you think it is.
I see a lot of sexy carbon and an exsposed FMIC.

Have you driven it in GT5? Doesn't even remotely remind me of a german anything. It also is modeled after the AE86 in case you didn't know.
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Typical Japannese following German style, whats new? Ft86 concept (production track version?) looks like a 1M copy. Wonder if the side/rear vents are real?
Looks like a 370Z copy to me.
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If this has a decent engine and handling that lives up to the original AE86 I think this car will be a winner. My guess is if the engine is really that good it will be competition with the 370z in price and performance.
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I love the design and don't think it resembles anything other than a very tame version of the LF-A, which makes sense. I guess it resembles a 1SMC in that it has 4 wheels but that's where the similarities end for me.
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If it has power and maintains the current style I will buy it.
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I doubt Subarus flagship motor will make it into a Sub $30k car. My bet is it'll be just like current subaru setup. Base model gets a N/A motor, Then you have a mid-model with the WRX motor, then your top of the line (over $30k) with the STI motor.
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There'll actually be a flurry of new car releases through 2011 now that the GFC is recovering around the globe...

I'm actually waiting to see the new Merc C class coupe which will be a direct competitor to the 1 series...

So far it has it all over the beemer with the interior (based on the already released new updated C class) and if all the speculated print turns out to be true about offering both a TTV6 and the new TTV8 engine options, it'll end up being more than a match performance wise...

Although that TTV8 AMG variant will probably end up costing as much or more than an M3.
I was in Argentina recently and saw a hatch/coupe version of the current C-class which looks pretty decent. That's it.
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^ Jeez, either make it a hatch or make it a coupe. That looks worse than the 5er GT.
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