1ntensified Peformance Orientation

darknightohio · 10-20-2007, 10:21 AM

Can the V8 from he M3 fit in the 1-series chassis? (New hood of course)

Feli_330i · 10-20-2007, 10:55 AM

There could be a lot of possibilities, 1 series ///M, 135i CSL??, someone mentioned the tti badge ( touring, international, injected), X1, or.... the Z2 which should be based on the E82 chassis. Although the way the "event" is being called (1ntensified Performance Orientation) it means 1-series something. Anyways here is a picture and also an article for those who did not know about this future car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...10-bmw-z2.html

BForbes · 10-20-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Redwood

The 2008 1 hatch in Europe IS the facelifted model. The coupe is based on that. We'll probably be getting a new generation 1 in 3-4 years. I wouldn't see the point of making an M version of a model that is half way through its life cycle. I'd think it would be better to debut a 1 M with the new generation.

Please enlightment me. Has BMW ever have a U.S. model out for 3-4 years and totally redesign it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Big Windy · 10-20-2007, 12:46 PM

the M department doesn't work like that...they aren't going to introduce an M1 the same year as they introduce a new 1 series. notice the carryover of the e46 m3 almost two years after the new e90 was introduced. same for the m5.

redwood · 10-20-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

Please enlightment me. Has BMW ever have a U.S. model out for 3-4 years and totally redesign it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

The problem is the 1 series is not a new platform, it came out in 2004...in Europe. They're not going to keep producing the old platform for years just because the U.S. got it later. There will probably be a staggered introduction just like with the 3 sedan, then coupe, then convertible.

Big Windy · 10-21-2007, 12:46 AM

+1

phattbam · 10-21-2007, 11:15 AM

the lights on that Z2 looks menacing.

bryan@mwerks · 10-22-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by argocarina

the M department doesn't work like that...they aren't going to introduce an M1 the same year as they introduce a new 1 series. notice the carryover of the e46 m3 almost two years after the new e90 was introduced. same for the m5.

My guess is that if there is ever an M1, it would be in the next generation of the 1 Series. There will no doubt be some performance-oriented variations, like what will be shown in Tokyo. But I'd be surprised if they launched an M1 Coupe in this version.

danp · 10-23-2007, 10:02 AM

How about the concept is a 135tii?

Breathed upon 135i with 400bhp at 7k and a few performance mods that make it an ///M in all but name? (alloy panels, carbon roof, LSD, bucket seats etc)

Garrett · 10-23-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by danp

How about the concept is a 135tii?

Breathed upon 135i with 400bhp at 7k and a few performance mods that make it an ///M in all but name? (alloy panels, carbon roof, LSD, bucket seats etc)

I like the name BMW M87

Doesn't follow the M-tradition, but does center around performance. ie. Harken back to the older days with model number with m-performance package.

danp · 10-23-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrett

I like the name BMW M87

Doesn't follow the M-tradition, but does center around performance. ie. Harken back to the older days with model number with m-performance package.

I don't mind what the name is as long as it's lighter with a screamer of an engine!

atr_hugo · 10-23-2007, 10:36 AM

M87 can also be read as a BMW engine code - M being an old gen (last gen -prior to 2002), 8 would indicate a V-10 configuration and the 7 indicating diesel TDI.

phattbam · 10-23-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

M87 can also be read as a BMW engine code - M being an old gen (last gen -prior to 2002), 8 would indicate a V-10 configuration and the 7 indicating diesel TDI.

Where do you find info like that?:iono:

atr_hugo · 10-23-2007, 12:18 PM

There was a manual (looked like something for a Service Advisor) that was found on another forum. Here's a thread with that info on this site:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901

eMINI · 10-23-2007, 02:22 PM

As Scott26 said above, there is precedent for an M prefix (ie. M135) if using the M1 moniker is considered unacceptable. That's what was done with the E28 5-series in the early 80's before the first M5's were produced. It was a stronger engine, tauter suspension and better aero treatment.

adc · 10-23-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eMINI

As Scott26 said above, there is precedent for an M prefix (ie. M135) if using the M1 moniker is considered unacceptable. That's what was done with the E28 5-series in the early 80's before the first M5's were produced. It was a stronger engine, tauter suspension and better aero treatment.

The E12 M535 from 78-80 had the modified 220BHP engine along with suspension/aero/interior.

The E28 M535 from 84-85 only had the visual bits and suspension - the engine was pure 535.

(I'm a little hazy on the years, but it should be close).

phattbam · 10-23-2007, 02:54 PM

the e34 5ers had the Msport models too.

cncmastr · 10-23-2007, 05:39 PM

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