Avoiding BMW due to tune

infinitekidM2C · 06-19-2009, 11:19 AM

I have a bit over 10k miles on my car and I'm thinking about totally avoiding BMW with respect to maintenance because of my tune and mods. I dont want the hassle of pulling everything out just to get an oil change. Any downfalls or potential consequences to this? Has anyone heard that not using BMW for maintenance possibly caused a warranty to be voided?

My135 · 06-19-2009, 11:44 AM

I am going to set my JB3 using the stock map and use my BT scanner to remove all warranty codes, and then take my car in for a scheduled service with all mods on. My next scheduled visit is within the next 4 weeks and I will let you know.

LemansE82 · 06-19-2009, 11:56 AM

I wouldn't worry too much if ur there for maintance...warranty work is another story.
If ur in Nj I can likely help.

bmwzone · 06-19-2009, 01:33 PM

Performing your own oil change is "avoiding BMW"?

soupy · 06-19-2009, 01:53 PM

You can do your own service by yourself and not affect the warranty. Just keep receipts for all the maintenance parts and keep good documentation of what you've done.

Though considering this is a once a year thing, I'd just take off the tune/intake/BOV.

jkp1187 · 06-19-2009, 01:56 PM

How do you reset the oil change monitor if you don't take it to a dealership?

AlBel1214 · 06-19-2009, 01:56 PM

I have gotten my cars oil change and inspected with my JB+ on and they havent said a word.... if my HPFP goes again and I take it in and they give me a hard time then ill remove the mods and just take to another dealer which is close..

shodanusmc · 06-19-2009, 02:21 PM

remove it, but they will still know if they look.

DubSport · 06-19-2009, 03:46 PM

JB3 stock map, clear codes, done.

For an oil change they will not be pulling your engine bay apart to look in the ECU area, that is time consuming and they have no reason to. BMW dealerships in my area are extremely busy and overbooked, they are also all about making money not wasting time looking for aftermarket piggy back hardware when all they are being paid for is changing the oil.

Feyd · 06-19-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlBel1214

I have gotten my cars oil change and inspected with my JB+ on and they havent said a word.... if my HPFP goes again and I take it in and they give me a hard time then ill remove the mods and just take to another dealer which is close..

Even if its by accident, I think you'll be screwed if they find out you have a tune. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but BMW is pretty meticulous about keeping records for CPO purposes, etc. Therefore anything that is found at any dealership will get stored in their database. If you get called out at one dealership with a tune, rest asured that when the next one downloads your key they'll have the same info.

shodanusmc · 06-19-2009, 06:39 PM

Yep, and all manufactures are now really going after tunes....if there is a way for them to save money on warranty work, they will, and have to do it. I agree, an oil change will not make them search, but for any drivability problem, they will get you. They can now find anything that was on there.

cagekicker · 06-19-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DubSport

JB3 stock map, clear codes, done.

For an oil change they will not be pulling your engine bay apart to look in the ECU area, that is time consuming and they have no reason to. BMW dealerships in my area are extremely busy and overbooked, they are also all about making money not wasting time looking for aftermarket piggy back hardware when all they are being paid for is changing the oil.

i definately agree with that.

x5mad · 07-12-2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jkp1187

How do you reset the oil change monitor if you don't take it to a dealership?

There is a way to do it manually from inside the car but I forget. Do a search as I remember reading it in this forum.

Another alternative is to get the BT (Bavarian Technic) tool which can reset the oil change and can also reset or adjust any of the CBS (condition based service) items.

infinitekidM2C · 07-12-2009, 02:32 PM

Update:

I went to the dealer with all of my mods on...no problems

NihonX · 07-12-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

Update:

I went to the dealer with all of my mods on...no problems

I am scheduled to go next Thursday for an oil change. Let's see how well my experience is with my mods installed.

themyst · 07-12-2009, 06:08 PM

I went to the dealer with my BMS DCI and JB3 on for a HPFP claim they didn't care. I did take the BMS tuning gauge out though....

NihonX · 07-16-2009, 06:49 PM

Whoot!
Apparently the dealer and the mechanics love my car.

They asked about how long I've had my mods and made no mention of any problems with having mods or even catless downpipes.

Feyd · 07-16-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NihonX

Whoot!
Apparently the dealer and the mechanics love my car.

They asked about how long I've had my mods and made no mention of any problems with having mods or even catless downpipes.

Glad everything worked out, but keep in mind your mechanic doesn't make the decision on warranty issues.

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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I am going to set my JB3 using the stock map and use my BT scanner to remove all warranty codes, and then take my car in for a scheduled service with all mods on. My next scheduled visit is within the next 4 weeks and I will let you know. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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DubSport Private First Class 19 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Calgary iTrader: (1)	JB3 stock map, clear codes, done. For an oil change they will not be pulling your engine bay apart to look in the ECU area, that is time consuming and they have no reason to. BMW dealerships in my area are extremely busy and overbooked, they are also all about making money not wasting time looking for aftermarket piggy back hardware when all they are being paid for is changing the oil.
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shodanusmc Captain 21 Rep 774 Posts Drives: 09 135 Vert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago burb iTrader: (0)	Yep, and all manufactures are now really going after tunes....if there is a way for them to save money on warranty work, they will, and have to do it. I agree, an oil change will not make them search, but for any drivability problem, they will get you. They can now find anything that was on there.
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