BMW M Engineer Jürgen Schwenker Provides More 1M Insights

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by DriveHard

I like this too....

I say there will be 2012 models.... They way i look at it, They developed a new car for relatively little money... and have a success story on there hands.. why wouldnt they continue.. the only thing is they cant flood the market... i say they will release new ones for 2013 along the same lines of this year or slightly greater...

you can also say the planet will end as of last Saturday and you would be just as wrong.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/24/b.../#aol-comments

[TunedM2C]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/24/b.../#aol-comments

It's spreading like wildfire and will most likely drive prices up further...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/one-and-...fter-2011.html

[M3 Adjuster]

.. this has been common knowledge since early this year. I reported it myself back in January or February after the former BMW M Brand manager reported it to a group of BMW CCA members at a board meeting. Unfortunately some people can't read the writing on the wall...

Another reason 1M production likely will not continue is that BMW is going to ramp up X1 production as much as posssible. The X1 is produced on the same line as the 1 series in Leipzig. The launch of the X1 in the US has already been delayed a full year because of the high demand in Europe, and the fact that they can barely produce enough X1s for Europe, let alone handle the flood of demand from SUV (SAV) crazed Americans.

[elitt13]

Where i can found the “racing brake linings” available for the 1 M ???

I don't have any information from bmw !!!

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

How long is to the BMW 1 Series M Coupé to be built and is there a limit on numbers?

This is not a limited edition.



I guess this won't be limited as first thought?

This "not limited edition" to me means that it does not have a predetermined set number of units to be built.

Not we will make as many as people order, or we will make them beyond 2011. Just simply we will not cap production at a fixed number.

[HondaGoneRogue]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Do you think BMW will ever admit the fact that they saw how HP Autowerks, Inc. was able to do on the 135i and 335i with the M3 bits and how well the cars handled after the conversion, they decided to come out with something of their own? It would be interesting to see if BMW had this in mind back in 2008 or it's something thought up recently.

I said the same thing in another thread. I know who the props go to.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Papethova

This "not limited edition" to me means that it does not have a predetermined set number of units to be built.

Not we will make as many as people order, or we will make them beyond 2011. Just simply we will not cap production at a fixed number.

That is not what BMW marketing is saying: "This is special, buy this, buy this now, or forever miss the opportunity to own a limited production 1M."

They should stop producing 1M and make X1M.

[21450]

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2008 i series have "one of one" on the start stop button ( designating the first year of production)[/QUOTE]

IIRC the stop start button said "Year of One"

[Pamlico]

Originally Posted by 21450

IIRC the stop start button said "Year of One"

Nope, just checked. Says "Year One Of The 1"

[21450]

Originally Posted by Pamlico

Nope, just checked. Says "Year One Of The 1"

Ooops. Thanks.

[Redadair]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Do you think BMW will ever admit the fact that they saw how HP Autowerks, Inc. was able to do on the 135i and 335i with the M3 bits and how well the cars handled after the conversion, they decided to come out with something of their own? It would be interesting to see if BMW had this in mind back in 2008 or it's something thought up recently.

Are you serious?

Don't flatter yourself to this point. I don't think the BMW M division needs any help from the anftermarket.

Sorry I am sure your stuff is the Shi* but to pretend that BMW M group would use your ideas???. Since they did all the original engineering and built the original M3 suspension bits that you decided to use on your 135i and then re-engineered these pieces for the 1M...

No I don't think so.....

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you serious?

Don't flatter yourself to this point. I don't think the BMW M division needs any help from the anftermarket.

Sorry I am sure your stuff is the Shi* but to pretend that BMW M group would use your ideas???. Since they did all the original engineering and built the original M3 suspension bits that you decided to use on your 135i and then re-engineered these pieces for the 1M...

No I don't think so.....

I got a good laugh from that myself!

[l888apex]

I don't care if you are either way but if that's the reason I have a 1M, I love u and thanks cuz its awesome hahaha

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you serious?

Don't flatter yourself to this point. I don't think the BMW M division needs any help from the anftermarket.

Sorry I am sure your stuff is the Shi* but to pretend that BMW M group would use your ideas???. Since they did all the original engineering and built the original M3 suspension bits that you decided to use on your 135i and then re-engineered these pieces for the 1M...

No I don't think so.....

The M division certainly don't need our help in the engineering department, but the aftermarket and enthusiasts(us) has certainly give them many ideas on the building of the 1M.

Would you ever have thought about using the M3 bits on your 1 or 3 series? Probably not! Try some M3 suspension bits, you will like them!

Perhaps some BMW internal documentations can prove my theory.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Perhaps some BMW internal documentations can prove my theory.

I take it that I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for the internal memos from the M division? Lol.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The M division certainly don't need our help in the engineering department, but the aftermarket and enthusiasts(us) has certainly give them many ideas on the building of the 1M.

Would you ever have thought about using the M3 bits on your 1 or 3 series? Probably not! Try some M3 suspension bits, you will like them!

Perhaps some BMW internal documentations can prove my theory.

Please, they have been reusing M3/M5 parts on other M cars for a long time. Z4M carried many E46 M3 suspension pieces.

No offense, but I would bet the guys in Munich don't even know who most of the tuning companies are stateside.

[Robert]

So does this mean BMW won't bring 1M pace car exhaust to market? Since it's probably in violation of noise restriction and two emission standards? That is a really awesome exhaust, if 1M sounds like that I'd probably go to a dealer and order one

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by chris719

Please, they have been reusing M3/M5 parts on other M cars for a long time. Z4M carried many E46 M3 suspension pieces.

No offense, but I would bet the guys in Munich don't even know who most of the tuning companies are stateside.

The engineers at Munich may not, but I bet someone from marketing is lurking these forums.

[Redadair]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The engineers at Munich may not, but I bet someone from marketing is lurking these forums.

Why would the M group care?

[DriveHard]

Originally Posted by blacknbean

what about the z4is and 335is? they still have atleast 1yr of production left.

Thats a good point.. but here are the actual EPA documents stating the expiration of the engine family.. I have to go look for newer info, but i pulled this stuff just a few weeks ago..

see below BTW in my orig post i should have said N54T ( i will edit that so the info is consistent)

BTW also when you open up "cert1M" you will see that the 335is and the z4is are also listed

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by DriveHard

One of 450 of 2011 model year.......

Nope, 2012 model year over here, as it falls into line with the other coupes and 'verts which are 2012 with the new lights etc.
You have to remember, you don't have the 3dr and 5dr hatches which haven't been updated and are still onsale here as 2011 cars, as they will be replaced by the F20 in Sept-ish.

[Hotrod99]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

How long is to the BMW 1 Series M Coupé to be built and is there a limit on numbers?

This is not a limited edition.



I guess this won't be limited as first thought?

I noticed that too. Thats crap if thats the case. A number of cars sold have probably been on the pretence that this is a exclusive car! False advertising if BMW plan to continue making it!

This will effect resale value too.