Stolen 1M

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Hm, but a 1M is just a souped up 135i, no ?

If it were, then I wouldn't want one so bad

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Artemis

...Wondering wheter the car can still be (un)locked, alarm armed, etc. without fuse #74. Wanna test, Dackel ?

Well... I tested it tonight! I took one for the 1M team!!

So... I went to my 135i's fuse box... nearly drew blood trying to open that damm fuse box/glove box door. Pinched my finger real good. lol But I was able to pull fuse #74. When you do that you will loose access to your OBDII port. I tried using my BT scan tool and my generic CAN/BUS code reader. both could not access the engine ECU. When the fuse is plugged in... both tools can access the DME.

So... looks like pulling fuse #74 is a good defense. Only problem is... you also loose your instrument panel(kombi) lights! When you pull your clock will also loose its time/date function.

I think the best way would be to wire a remote switch for fuse #74 - for when you park your car. I also use some black gaffers tape over my OBDII port as a small measure of defense.


Here are some pics I took...




my black gaffers duct tape - defense...


BT scan tool...


Generic OBDII scan tool...






disconnect the damper... bottom of shock from glove box door...


Push in tab, so glove box can swing down. Note there is another tab on the LEFT side near the damper too! That is what "crimped" my finger! Then your glove box door will drop straight down...








fuse card/chart...


fuse #74 is on the very bottom row of fuses, third from left. Just under that harness at the bottom of the fuse box!


scan tool has no signal when fuse #74 is pulled!

[ozinaldo]

Dackel, you are the man! Thanks a lot for all that job and pictures.

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Well... I tested it tonight! I took one for the 1M team!!

[Drillslinger]

Great pics David, thanks

I went another route on mine. Don't have pics but while installing my P3 gauge I simply put a small screw in the OBD cover:

(I used David's pic to illustrate)

So the cover is screwed in AND the P3 Gauge is plugged into the port so I think that should work pretty well, what do y'all think?
(When I get a chance I'll take a quick pic)

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Well... I tested it tonight! I took one for the 1M team!!
So... looks like pulling fuse #74 is a good defense.

Thanks Dackel !

As I commented earlier, according to the fuse box diagram fuse #74 powers two things: OBD + dashboard (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=143 and http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=153). That's why not only the OBD, but also the dashboard lights were brain dead once you had removed fuse #74.
Gives thieves a hard(er) time to clone a key.

Couple of questions:

• about the clock reset: did you notice any other reset (radio settings, seat position if powered seats, programmable memory keys on the radio, etc.) ?
• did you try whether the car can still be (un)locked, alarm armed, started, etc. without fuse #74 (I guess it should) ?
• was it absolutely impossible to get (decent) access to the fuse box without unlocking/unclicking the glove box bar handles (never got to go through that hassle with my M3) ?

Alternative idea: when you look at the picture of the opened OBD port, you got quite some space to install a DIY cover plate in front of the port itself. Purpose: if thieves open the OBD port cover, they stumble on another cover.

For anyone's convenience, below is shown a picture where fuse #74 is located inside the fuse box (third left of the last row of fuse slots) (5 Ampère - grey/brown color ...or is that Sepang Bronze ):

[euro2fast4u]

Im not sure if the 1 series have this but the e30 and e36 have a code you can enter that disables the car from starting even with the key, if the hood is opened on the e36 it wont start for some long period. Very simple to enter a 4 digit code and the car will never start.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Thanks Dackel !

...Couple of questions:

• about the clock reset: did you notice any other reset (radio settings, seat position if powered seats, programmable memory keys on the radio, etc.) ?

• First thing I noticed after plugging the #74 fuse back in was that my instrument pannel/gauges had no clock... just some"-- --" lines. No date, and the outside temp was in 'F and not in 'C like I have it set on my US spec car.
  
  I simply inserted my key fob and started the engine. The car seemed to switch back to 'C temp for outside temp and HVAC controls. I simply just set the clock and date/year and everything was ok. My trip odometer also got reset to zero after plugging back in the fuse.
  
  I do not have power seats on my car - so I can't comment. I think they would be Ok. I
  
  
  

  Originally Posted by Artemis

  did you try whether the car can still be (un)locked, alarm armed, started, etc. without fuse #74 (I guess it should) ?

  No I did not. I kind of forgot to check for that when I tested the OBDII port. I do not see why the car would not start with the OBDII port fuse pulled.
  
  
  

  Originally Posted by Artemis

  was it absolutely impossible to get (decent) access to the fuse box without unlocking/unclicking the glove box bar handles (never got to go through that hassle with my M3) ?

You have to release both tabs (Left and Right) of the glove box, and unhook the shock damper on the left side. Then the glove box drops STRAIGHT DOWN! Make sure your glove box is empty and don't pinch a finger like I did. My finger is still hurting me. lol

Once the glove box is hanging down - open, you can see the fuse box. Its quite TIGHT... just a small opening where my fist could barley get inside the square opening. Things are very tight in there. But you can use the red tweezers - to pull out fuse #74. Don't drop it... bc you will never find it deep inside that opening. You might want to have some micro fuses on hand before "testing" your fuse pulling prowess.

Originally Posted by Artemis

Alternative idea: when you look at the picture of the opened OBD port, you got quite some space to install a DIY cover plate in front of the port itself. Purpose: if thieves open the OBD port cover, they stumble on another cover.

I think someone else posted that pin #7 in the OBDII connector is the power(+12v) for the OBDII port. It might just be easier to put a switch in for that pin/wire harness.

Originally Posted by Artemis

For anyone's convenience, below is shown a picture where fuse #74 is located inside the fuse box (third left of the last row of fuse slots) (5 Ampère - grey/brown color ...or is that Sepang Bronze ):

Yup! That is the fuse I pulled. But in your photo you have TONS of room for your hand. On my car it was VERY tight in there!




Dack

[Upturn666]

this is my little mod to slow the scum down. Moulded a cover that screws into place under the door rubber seals so the door has to be open to get it off.

[brownie815]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

this is my little mod to slow the scum down. Moulded a cover that screws into place under the door rubber seals so the door has to be open to get it off.

nice!!

[woosh]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

this is my little mod to slow the scum down. Moulded a cover that screws into place under the door rubber seals so the door has to be open to get it off.

Please put this into production for the rest of the UK 1M guys!

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

this is my little mod to slow the scum down. Moulded a cover that screws into place under the door rubber seals so the door has to be open to get it off.

thats some awesome work, but it will be even more awesome when you get some left hand drive action going on that! props!

[Upturn666]

UK 1M owners.
I will look into making a few of these.
How many people are interested?

[edwardio]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

UK 1M owners.
I will look into making a few of these.
How many people are interested?

Hi there...will happily take one !!

[as7920]

Great solution.

If your custom part gets wedged in the door sill when shut, does it need to be screwed in?

[ChrisBuer]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

UK 1M owners.
I will look into making a few of these.
How many people are interested?

Definitely!! Please count me in.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Upturn666

this is my little mod to slow the scum down. Moulded a cover that screws into place under the door rubber seals so the door has to be open to get it off.

Looks great ! Can you conceive one for LHD cars too ?

[Dackelone]

I still think you would be better off rendering the OBDII port inactive rather than covering it up with some plastic trim. These thieves will stop at nothing to get your ride. I am sure they would not mind breaking the door handle or door or ripping apart the underside of the dash to drive off in your car.

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Looks great ! Can you conceive one for LHD cars too ?

yesss Pleaseee!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I still think you would be better off rendering the OBDII port inactive rather than covering it up with some plastic trim. These thieves will stop at nothing to get your ride. I am sure they would not mind breaking the door handle or door or ripping apart the underside of the dash to drive off in your car.

Have a CDV to strip and OBD port at the dealer back home waiting for me

Can anyone point me in a good direction for removing the hood latch panel that sits over the port? Thx

[MGL9X]

I am now exceedingly concerned about the security of the 1M after an incident which happened last night. Some scumbag smashed the passenger side window by ripping it out

Even after reaching into the car and opening the glove box, the alarm did not activate

Nothing was stolen (there was nothing worth steeling, or anything on display to steel). After cleaning up the mess of broken glass I tried waving my arm around in side the car to try and activate the alarm. The alarm on most occasions did not activate. Based on these results a fully tooled up car thief could pretty much take his time to access the OBD port and make off with the car. If BMW say they have no concerns over of the security of the 1 Series vehicles then they could not have tested it properly or there is problem specific to the 1M...

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by MGL9X

I am now exceedingly concerned about the security of the 1M after an incident which happened last night. Some scumbag smashed the passenger side window by ripping it out

Even after reaching into the car and opening the glove box, the alarm did not activate

Nothing was stolen (there was nothing worth steeling, or anything on display to steel). After cleaning up the mess of broken glass I tried waving my arm around in side the car to try and activate the alarm. The alarm on most occasions did not activate. Based on these results a fully tooled up car thief could pretty much take his time to access the OBD port and make off with the car. If BMW say they have no concerns over of the security of the 1 Series vehicles then they could not have tested it properly or there is problem specific to the 1M...

Sorry to hear someone broke into your car. Lucky nothing was taken or damaged that much.

I think its time for everyone to put a switch on their OBDII port (power supply - pin #7 ???) or install a switch on fuse #74(but then you will loose your clock/date).

This is not just a 1M problem but a BMW problem - since it effects all 1er's and 3er's as far as I know.


Dack

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MGL9X

I am now exceedingly concerned about the security of the 1M after an incident which happened last night. Some scumbag smashed the passenger side window by ripping it out
Even after reaching into the car and opening the glove box, the alarm did not activate
Nothing was stolen (there was nothing worth stealing, or anything on display to steal).

Classic case of thieves looking for car papers in the glove box: either for use for a similar stolen car, or (if the car is just parked in the street) to know where you're living and pay you a visit in the future to get the car keys.

[philooo]

BMW should have think of that !