BMW to build 5,000 1Ms?

TunedM2C · 08-30-2011, 02:05 PM

The 1M Press Day powerpoint presentation stated production numbers to come in around 800. Now could that change? Sure, however, Matt has said numerous times that there's no additional units coming to the U.S. in 2012. So unless BMWAG is keeping him in the dark, I'd have to go by what Matt has stated several times.

Skip to 2:10 to see production numbers.

Rekraps · 08-30-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Madness

No. Not United.

Not Global either...

nachob · 08-30-2011, 02:37 PM

Personally, BMW realeased a statement that there would be NO 2012 1M. Based on this I paid way over MSRP because we can only do ED in Summer. If they would've "left it open" as the poster says, then I would've waited until next summer for sure. I based my decision primarily on their statement that there would be no 2012, which was reinforced several times by the dealership when negotiating the price.

Personally, I will live with it, BUT, I don't want to hear people saying it shouldn't matter when they say they will not produce it one year, then do.

I will have to write this off as a lesson learned, but I do believe it will leave a bad aftertaste if they go with a 2012 after saying they won't.

If they reimburse what I paid over MSRP, all would be fine I guess, but I doubt that would happen.

tkbr0wn · 08-30-2011, 02:43 PM

I still dont think most of you guys can get this through your head.

Just because they will produce the car into 2012 does not mean that there will be a US 2012 model. Other countries will probably have a 2012 model just because that's the way it will be labeled because of delivery dates.

They also said all along that they will produce the car all the way through 2011 for the US market and it would be hard to get but they weren't going to limit production to a specific number, it would be based on demand.

NOTHING has changed....

Redadair · 08-30-2011, 02:54 PM

I think we need to wait to see Official Statements from BMW.

On the 8th the Delivery Specialist who went over my car with me at the Welt also said they had decided to increase production of the car. But he said it would only be a 100 to 200 cars, not 2000 - 3000. In the end we will just need to wait and see how this unfolds.

kskpsu · 08-30-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

I think we need to wait to see Official Statements from BMW.

On the 8th the Delivery Specialist who went over my car with me at the Welt also said they had decided to increase production of the car. But he said it would only be a 100 to 200 cars, not 2000 - 3000. In the end we will just need to wait and see how this unfolds.

My Delivery Specialist at Welt on 8/26 indicated a 4 digit increase for worldwide production...continues to be lots of different perspectives floating around. Agree..let it all unfold, and if you are still in the hunt, keep working at it.

darrensi · 08-30-2011, 05:47 PM

Heard this from a dealer today:

"We received an update from BMW about the 2011 1M coupes - they are now completely sold out for this model year. No news yet whether they will be offering a similar model for 2012, but there have been some hints that something is in the wings."

NPVPositive · 08-30-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

Just because they will produce the car into 2012 does not mean that there will be a US 2012 model. Other countries will probably have a 2012 model just because that's the way it will be labeled because of delivery dates.

They also said all along that they will produce the car all the way through 2011 for the US market and it would be hard to get but they weren't going to limit production to a specific number, it would be based on demand.

NOTHING has changed....

Correct. If you go back to the original BMW interviews, K Segler always said that it would NOT be a limited edition but it would be "hard to get".

Also, we have always known that the car would be mfr until about March 2012 when BMW do the line switch out at Leipzig. This doesn't mean that there will be a US 2012 model, but there will probably be some "2012" cars sold in other geographies.

Dackelone · 08-30-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dee Pee

What happens in 8-10 hours?

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Originally Posted by Papethova

The factory tour I had initially scheduled at Leipzig takes place and these questions will be asked there... waiting for Dackelone to return from the tour to post the answers

Sorry I don't really have any answers for you guys. Our tour guide while being very nice did not seem to know much about these questions. I did leave him my LONG list with my email and hopefully his will get back to me soon with the answers from his higher ups. He did say he has to "ask" what he is allowed to say and not say. But he did promise to get back to me.

I did ask him about the production numbers and about production being continued until March 2012 - as I was told in an email from Leipzig Werk. He said that was news to him.

I also asked him what about a 1M Vert and he simply smilled. I think that is a real possibilty. I did see a room with some Vert bodies getting a lot of welding done to them in teh factory. Again - no confirmation - just telling you what I saw and felt by his answers. AND... I did ask about a CSL... and he just shurugged his shoulders. SO... we wil all have to wait!

Here is my Leipzig Factory story from today...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=555206&page=3

Dackel

Dee Pee · 08-30-2011, 08:17 PM

uh--oh...convertible and csl rumors!

mikewills · 08-30-2011, 08:26 PM

I dont recall exactly, but didn't Brian Watts specifically say no 1M CSL during the bimmerfile interview.

Redadair · 08-30-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NPVPositive

Correct. If you go back to the original BMW interviews, K Segler always said that it would NOT be a limited edition but it would be "hard to get".

Also, we have always known that the car would be mfr until about March 2012 when BMW do the line switch out at Leipzig. This doesn't mean that there will be a US 2012 model, but there will probably be some "2012" cars sold in other geographies.

That isn't true about Always Knowing that the 1M would be built until March. BMW has Always said it would be produced through December of this year only.

This is why the 1M is being sold as a 2011 year, while all other 1 Series are being sold as 2012 this year. Yes the rest of the 1 Series could be produced until next March and still be sold as 2012 cars. Not true for the 2011 1M's

Zuzu · 08-30-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

This is why the 1M is being sold as a 2011 year, while all other 1 Series are being sold as 2012 this year. Yes the rest of the 1 Series could be produced until next March and still be sold as 2012 cars. Not true for the 2011 1M's

Not so true either.
In Australia, BMW dealers have started taking deposits on 2012 build 1M's..

Redadair · 08-30-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

Not so true either.
In Australia, BMW dealers have started taking deposits on 2012 build 1M's..

Are you sure about that????

Proof please!

Zuzu · 08-30-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you sure about that????

Proof please!

The only proof I have, is from what has been posted in The Australian forum, from members who have given deposits to dealers for a 2012 build..

My 1M arrives in 6 weeks...

Redadair · 08-30-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

The only proof I have, is from what has been posted in The Australian forum, from members who have given deposits to dealers for a 2012 build..

My 1M arrives in 6 weeks...

At this point it's all rumors.

I wouldn't put much faith in anything in this post beyond what has already been verified by BMW. As for 2012 1M's show us the build sheet or it didn't happen.

Couple of questions from the OP link, it says the interview was with the head of the M group Asia Pacific at the Launch of the 1M Last Night? No date on the article at all. yet at the bottom of the Magazine web site is a link to a test of the 1M from July. How old is this article? The Magazine also claims to be a Beta? (Motoring.com/au Beta) Who are these guys??

motoring.com.au is attending the local launch of the 1 Series M in Melbourne today. Check back later for a launch review. Is this true the 1M launch for Australian was last night??

hollysmac · 08-30-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T1T2GRE

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little upset by BMW's decision. On the other hand, I would have wanted this car even if they made 10,000. I still love an old-fashioned run-of-the-mill E30 325i or is - and they made zillions of those. This isn't so much about exclusivity or resale for me as it is a return to roots with weight reduction, etc.

I will still be happy when I pick up my 1SMC!

I noticed your sig. Are you in Kansas ToTo ?

Zuzu · 08-30-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

At this point it's all rumors.

I wouldn't put much faith in anything in this post beyond what has already been verified by BMW. As for 2012 1M's show us the build sheet or it didn't happen.

Couple of questions from the OP link, it says the interview was with the head of the M group Asia Pacific at the Launch of the 1M Last Night? No date on the article at all. yet at the bottom of the Magazine web site is a link to a test of the 1M from July. How old is this article? The Magazine also claims to be a Beta? (Motoring.com/au Beta) Who are these guys??

motoring.com.au is attending the local launch of the 1 Series M in Melbourne today. Check back later for a launch review. Is this true the 1M launch for Australian was last night??

Hey mate.. I am just the messanger.

Are you in Oz?
EDIT: Sorry..Just saw the USA flag in your Avatar details..

hollysmac · 08-30-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by formula M

No, I do not get upset with things I cannot control. Nor would I get upset, because "if" that were to happen, I will still have my car. Now, if it was taken away from me, then I would be upset.

btw.. I know someone who got a 1M for $44k.. should everyone who payed sticker be "upset" now..? What others do, shouldn't reflect your decision. So, having newer information, should never render YOUR decision useless, if so and you are hedging things based off other people actions, then you are not leading YOUR life.

Nobody needs this car, it is a want.

Good points. i have had a car I love since May and don't care how many others get to enjoy their cars. As much as I love this car would have passed on it if my dealer charged over MSRP. I don't care how much or how little anyone else paid. All I can worry about is my own life not what anyone else has, does, or doesn't do. I hope we do get some more cars--It's kind of lonely out here. I didn't buy this car for speculation , exclusivity, or prestige -- I bought it to enjoy and drive the snot out of it.

Holly

david.orr · 08-30-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you sure about that????

Proof please!

You gotta be kidding.

1SerieStud · 08-30-2011, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you sure about that????

Proof please!

Dude, proof has already been provided. The guy that took delivery at Palm Harbor not long ago drove to Mexico, where he saw one on display, brand new for sale, labeled as a 2012 car, took pictures and posted them. Other markets consider this car a 2012 model and that's ok. Let's not forget the main reason it is labeled a 2011 model in the US is for emission purposes.

That being said, yes production was said to end (and will end) on December of 2011 for the US market. That does not mean that other markets will not take delivery first quarter of 2012.

NPVPositive · 08-30-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

Are you sure about that????

Proof please!

Here's another data point, review today of the 1M in Sydney's leading newspaper, states: "The extra 100 units will roll into Australia through the first three quarters of 2012, eked out of a production boost that finishes mid-2012."

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/f...831-1jl2l.html

It's important to distinguish between US and non-US cars in this discussion. There may not be any 2012-spec cars sold in the US.

In Australia we don't do the US thing of calling cars 2012 even though they were purchased in mid-2011 . . . ie, the model year in the US is based on the 2012 spec sheet rather than the actual 2011 production date. Here an imported car cannot technically be called a 2012 car unless the compliance plate was attached in 2012.

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Redadair Major 105 Rep 1,417 Posts Drives: 2011 1M #293 - 88 E30 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Murray iTrader: (0)	I think we need to wait to see Official Statements from BMW. On the 8th the Delivery Specialist who went over my car with me at the Welt also said they had decided to increase production of the car. But he said it would only be a 100 to 200 cars, not 2000 - 3000. In the end we will just need to wait and see how this unfolds. __________________ 2011 1M, Valencia Orange, All options. August 8th ED (#293 of 739 or 740) 88 E30 M3 100% OEM 73K Miles 02 E39 M5 Le Mans Blue 50K Miles 06 E46 M3 ZCP 58K Miles
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darrensi Private 3 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 1M VO Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Heard this from a dealer today: "We received an update from BMW about the 2011 1M coupes - they are now completely sold out for this model year. No news yet whether they will be offering a similar model for 2012, but there have been some hints that something is in the wings."
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