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You're right, they are better for full time track use. I'd lean a little more to the HT-10 though when it comes to a dual purpose car, with more street than track use. It's really a tough call to make, and you make a good point, other than the cold temperature case. The HT-10 becomes more usable much sooner. however, it can't take quite as much heat as the DTC pads, so I'm torn on the recommendation.
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I appreciate the kind words. I'll try not to let it go to my head.
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When people are talking about the M3 conversion they don't really mean a 100% full M3 conversion including the dampers and springs but are more referring to the bits the other bits that can be straight swapped and then getting coilovers. M3 parts that can be straight swapped are: Front Lower Control Arms and Headlight Sensor Rods Front Anti-Roll Bar (E90/92 26.5mm, E93 28mm) Rear Anti-Roll Bar (E90/92 22.5mm, E93 23.5mm) Rear Upper Guide Rods Rear Upper Links Rear Lower Camber Link (will require M3 compatible rear shocks) Rear Toe Arm (compatible only if using the M3 hubs and subframe, must get an aftermarket adjustable toe arm if not using M3 hubs) Rear Subframe Rear Subframe Bushings Rear Axle Shafts Rear LSD (DCT 3.15, 6MT 3.86) The front subframe cannot be changed (1M also has a 135i front subframe). The prop shaft needs to be semi-custom fabricated as the rear joint is not compatible with the M3 LSD. The hubs can be swapped over, but you will then require a set of M3 compatible brakes as well. It is possible to do everything that I've listed without getting the rear subframe, axleshafts, LSD and toe arms but the M3 subframe is better constructed being both lighter and stronger. I've recently just done all of the above on my car with the exception of the subframe bushings (I went with solid aluminium bushings) so if you need any help with it all, please feel free to ask or check out my build thread. My take on your list would be n54 or n55: N54 Step/DCT/Man: 6MT Braking Mods: Stock (RB 2-Piece front rotors, SS brake lines, remove front dust shields, RB caliper rebuild kit, appropriate pads) OR BBK Drivetrain Mods: BMWP SSK, CDV delete, LSD Electrical Mods: JB4/Procede with Backend ECU Flash Engine Mods: Mr5 CAI, FMIC, CP, Oil Cooler Kit Exhaust Mods: Catless DPs, Catless Resonated Mids, any high flow muffler (CP-E, Berk. AA) Exterior Aero Mods: 1M or ER widebody kit Roll Cage/Harness Bar Mods: BR Racing Bolt-In Half Cage and Harness Bar Suspension Mods: M3 Bolt-ons, good set of coilovers (Ohlins R&T) Tires (specs): Hankook RS3s Wheels (specs): Apex Arc-8s
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Any other track set-ups out there? Anyone heading to TWS in College Station at the end of Jan. '14?
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Here is my setup I use for track. I use the stock differential (Non-LSD). It is quite comfortable using street tires.
Engine mods = N55 with BMW PPK2, ETS 5" Intercooler, ER charge pipe. Transmission = DCT Exhaust = Stock Differential = Stock SUSPENSION: Koni Yellow front struts Koni TCK single-adjustable rear dampers BMW Performance "T3" springs with matching bump-stops (Front) Swift 500lb 10" coilover springs (Rear) Ground Control street camber plates HPA Adjustable rear spring perches and thrust sheets Powerflex polyurethane rear damper mounts M3 E93 28mm front sway bar Non-M E92 13mm rear sway bar M3 rear subframe bushings M3 front arms M3 front tension struts M3 rear upper arms M3 rear upper guide rods 1M front strut brace WHEELS: Forgestar F14. Front 17x8.5" ET40, Rear 17x9.0 ET52. TIRES: Toyo R888 tires for Track only. Front 245/40/17, Rear 255/40/17. ALIGNMENT: Front camber = 3.0 degree Front toe = zero Rear camber = 2.1 degree Rear toe = 1/8" BRAKES: Pads = Ferodo DS2500 Front shims = Hardbrakes 1mm titanium shims Front rotors = EBC slot + dimples Rear rotors = Stock Fluid = Motul 600 Lines = Goodridge Phantom Last edited by John_01; 06-10-2015 at 06:19 AM.. Reason: Update for new parts |
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Here is my track set up that allowed me to take first place last year in my class:
2008 n54 step Exhaust: Agency Power DP's and mids, Remus muffler Intake: Burger Tuning DCI Tuning: Burger Tuning JB4 with methanol spray Agency Power intercooler Mishimoto Oil Cooler Suspension: JIC Cross coil overs with camber plates, JIC Cross strut tower brace, M3 control arms, front sway bar, and subframe bushings. Brakes: EBC Yellow pads, RB600 fluid, braided lines, EBC dimpled slotted rear rotors, BMW performance drilled fronts. Wheels and tires: 17"x8.5" square setup with Yokohama R888 for track days.(I used Kuhmho Ecsta V710's for most of the season) the R888 seems so have longer lasting grip and more consistent. Alignment: -3.1 front. -2.8 rear, zero toe up front. Belts: Schroth quick connect harness. CF Hood and rear lip spoiler. Observations: Brakes still aren't great. Going to try rebuilding calipers with steel pistons, EBC front rotors and maybe Hawk pads next change. Car still doesn't handle as well as I'd like. Never heard of JIC Cross coil overs for 135i before I got them so going to research my spring rates and see if anything is out of whack. Also LSD for rear is on my list along with a second oil cooler. I still can't run a whole race without flirting with limp modes from heat. Suggestions or comments welcome! Thanks guys.
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For cooling, I run a 70% water and 30% coolant with a bottle of water wetter and the BMS thermostat bypass. I don't have an aftermarket oil cooler and I haven't had any issues with limp mode yet (3 track events with multiple 20 minute sessions)… I am in Canada however, its probably not as hot as where some of you guys live… lol
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Here's my setup with my 2011 135i. I have no oil Cooler but haven't had an issue with limp mode as of yet. I run 70/30 water to coolant with a bottle of water wetter. Although the hottest day I've run so far has only been in the high 80s. I'm an intermediate driver and the car runs and handles great. I'm still learning the car as last year was my first year with the 135i and the modifications progressed throughout the entire track season. My previous track car was an E36 M3.
n54 or n55: N55 Step/DCT/Man: DCT Braking Mods: RB Caliper Rebuild kit, EBC slotted/dimpled w/Carbotech XP10s up front. In the rear stock rotors, RB rear caliper rebuild and Stoptech street performance pads Drivetrain Mods: none Electrical Mods: BMW PPK Engine Mods: ETS FMIC, ETS Chargepipe Exhaust Mods: Berk Sport Exhaust Exterior Aero Mods: Kerscher front lip and BMW Carbon Fiber Spoiler...so no real Aero Roll Cage/Harness Bar Mods: Schroth Quick fit Harnass Suspension Mods: M3 Bolts ons front and rear w/M3 subframe bushings. M3 front sway bar. Swift springs and Koni Yellows. Dinan Camber plates and rear shock mounts. Camber: Front -2.5 w/.05 toe out each side Rear -2.5 w/.12 toe in each side Tires (specs): Hankook RS3s Wheels (specs): Apex Arc-8s |
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Good looking setup and 1!
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What all M3 bolt ons in the front and rear did you go with, just curious?
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How do you feel about the RB rebuild kit? RB is local (20 minutes away) to me, and my front calipers are fried. After reading everything I can get my hands on, it seems like a solid fit for our cars. I will be contacting Warren and Co. over at RB in regards to bringing my car in for the caliper rebuild.
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