Formula 1 Grand Prix Du Canada 2015

[solstice]

Poor Alonso, first his long time inferior team mate Massa passes him and then just after comes his former car with Vettel rubbing it in by passing him twice showing that even with crappy driving and huge lock ups he can walk by him on the next straight. I wonder if the helmet will be flying into the wall this time...

[E90SLAM]

Hopeless McLaren....

[Elsabor67]

Not a bad race but I expected more after some new suspects had made it into the top 10 Quali.

None the less, great driving from Massa and Vettel.

[NickyC]

Bummer race, this is usually one of the better ones of the year and I 4x sped through the thing. YAWN.

[escobar929]

Easy win for the Mercs but good drives by VET and MAS

[hellrotm]

Hammer Time

[five_timer]

Originally Posted by solstice

Vettel rubbing it in by passing him twice showing that even with crappy driving and huge lock ups he can walk by him on the next straight.

From 18th to 5th, really crappy driving.

Weren't you one of those who thought RAI was going to walk all over VET this year?

[E90SLAM]

Highlight of the race, Vettel versus Alonso with a POS McLaren.

[E90SLAM]

Renault could quit next year, says Red Bull boss Christian Horner

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/33049962

Renault could quit Formula 1 if the sport does not allow in-season engine development next year, Red Bull team boss Christian Horner says.

Renault, which supplies engines to Red Bull and Toro Rosso, admits it cannot catch Mercedes and Ferrari this year.

Limited in-season development is permitted in 2015, but has been closed off again for next year.

Horner said a failure to open it up would be "almost waving goodbye to" Renault.

Renault has a contract with Red Bull and Toro Rosso until the end of 2016 .
Renault Sport boss Cyril Abiteboul said: "There will not be a future for Renault in F1 if we do not have a competitive engine."

When the current turbo hybrid rules were composed, the intention was that in-season engine development would be banned to keep costs under control.

Ferrari spotted a loophole that meant limited development has been allowed this season but governing body the FIA has closed it off by rewriting the 2016 rules. Manufacturers must submit all their performance improvements by 28 February next year.

To change this position would require unanimous agreement from the other teams and for now Mercedes are reluctant to agree.

Asked if he thought Mercedes would change this position, Horner said: "They don't have to obviously but it is at a precarious point in terms of Renault's commitment to the future.

"If F1 can afford to lose an engine manufacturer, stick to 28 February."

Abiteboul said the company was debating whether and in what form it should stay in F1 beyond the end of its contract with Red Bull in 2016.

Renault has the option to buy a team - with Lotus the favourite - stick with Red Bull as its works partner, or pull out all together.

Abiteboul said no decision had been made and "everything is open".

[hellrotm]

Good leave Renault. Mercedes can supply Red Bull engines, so Ricciardo can hassle Vettel all year in his old car.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by five_timer

From 18th to 5th, really crappy driving.

Weren't you one of those who thought RAI was going to walk all over VET this year?

It was crappy driving at his first attempt to pass Alonso, he overshot the braking and wasted tires for no good reason. He later on in the race run onto the grass and could have ended his race there. Who finished first of the two again

Vettel is fast in a fast car but still looks a bit flaky in wheel to wheel racing. Kimi should likely retire, he seem to have lost the edge and not taking full advantage of his spin and blaming the throttle? Redicolous.

[Petros]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Good leave Renault. Mercedes can supply Red Bull engines, so Ricciardo can hassle Vettel all year in his old car.

Unlikely. I highly doubt Merc would give engines to a top team that has the potential to challenge them. Works teams usually only give engines to smaller junior teams.

[E9TOU]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Good leave Renault. Mercedes can supply Red Bull engines, so Ricciardo can hassle Vettel all year in his old car.

I see that as a bad thing for F1. The more manufactures in F1 makes the sport more relevant and entertaining -- otherwise it turns into something like indycar. I'm hoping Renault returns with a works team, although this engine freeze rule doesn't help their case much. Also, Mercedes has already said supplying engines to 4 teams is the max they're willing to do.

[Boostin FD]

Originally Posted by solstice

I don't know what is the saddest part, Benz almost 1s pace advantage over the rest or McLaren's pitiful performance. Alonso apparently "put his helmet down slightly forcefully", that must have taken an enormous amount of restraint. Just get the Benz engine back into that disaster of a car. Honda, just keep building Corollas and dress them up with ugly beaks for the Acura lineup and keep dreaming of the glory days. You fell a sleep at the performance helm and let fat , arrogant finance guys with no interest in anything but $$$ run your company for too long....

Aren't Corollas made by Toyota

[solstice]

Ricciardo has to overcome both a crappy engine and the impact of losing the best chassis/aero engineer F1 has ever seen. With that there is little hope that they can compete. Maybe Newey can return but I doubt it, it looks rather dark for RBR.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Boostin FD

Aren't Corollas made by Toyota

Lol, yeah I'm glad someone is paying attention. Goes to show how popular those cars are here

[E90SLAM]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Good leave Renault. Mercedes can supply Red Bull engines, so Ricciardo can hassle Vettel all year in his old car.

Doubt to see that happen, Mercedes already supplying three other teams, Force India, Lotus, and Williams. I do not see an engine supplier supports more than one factory team plus three customer teams.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Doubt to see that happen, Mercedes already supplying three other teams, Force India, Lotus, and Williams. I do not see an engine supplier supports more than one factory team plus three customer teams.

I was just be facetious. The Audi and Red Bull rumors seem to keep popping up. They certainly are not going to run Honda engines.

[E90SLAM]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

I was just be facetious. The Audi and Red Bull rumors seem to keep popping up. They certainly are not going to run Honda engines.

But too bad VW group shot it down quickly.
Last year there were rumors that Red Bull might develop their own power units.

[EdM5]

My god, I feel so sorry for Fernando and Jenson.
Two great champs trapped in that piece of s$%#.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Last year there were rumors that Red Bull might develop their own power units.

They will then have no one to blame but themselves.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

They will then have no one to blame but themselves.

They will end up like Honda, at least for the first year.