Which 1-Series Coupe Model will you purchase?

[Big Red One]

Current plan is 128i with Sport Package, Comfort Access, USB iPod integration, BMW Assist, and AT. Possibly NAV.

[BForbes]

Originally Posted by Brookside

I've bought my Z4 coming off lease. I'll be holding the title in my hot hands by this time next week.
Long story...but it's a good $ deal and I have ecquity...ie, the pay-off price vs what it goes for on the market today.
Yes, I've done the research and the #'s.


I'll sell the Z4 as we get closer to the 1-er's N/A debut.

I'll sell the s2000 after I drive the one. I thought I would have it forever. Boy how things can change. Lucky for me, the s2k retains over 50% of its value after 4yr 60k.

[Deutsch]

I'm not sure. With the M kit as std. equipment on the 135i I'd say I'd be tempted to go in that direction. However I don't need to power nor the acceleration, at the same time I just love the M technik look, which won't be available with out having to cough up a big chunk of change to get it for the 128. What the heck am I saying all this for?!... Don't really know til I learn more about just what we're getting... just gets me excited though!

[Brookside]

Originally Posted by Deutsch

I'm not sure. With the M kit as std. equipment on the 135i I'd say I'd be tempted to go in that direction. However I don't need to power nor the acceleration, at the same time I just love the M technik look, which won't be available with out having to cough up a big chunk of change to get it for the 128. What the heck am I saying all this for?!... Don't really know til I learn more about just what we're getting... just gets me excited though!

Deutsch, your post started me wondering...exactly which engine is the 2.8...it's the N52....but which N52? I believe there's some variations within the designation.
(if I'm reading this one entry correctly on the web, there are 2 N52 engines)
If one of you guys knows exactly perhaps what would really be helpful is a side-by-side graph with specs.

The other thing is...the twin-turbo definitely is going to be the burner, but it's a heavy engine in a small car, so....which is going to handle better?

How about fuel efficiency between the two?...surely that will sway some opinions- at least provide some food for thought.
I think there's more to consider here... more factors than what I had first thought.
There may very well be a very good arguement for the superiority of the 2.8 over the 3.5!

[atr_hugo]

Well - reading the available material seems to indicate that the 135i will have a 50/50 weight distribution. Now, if they had to put a cubic foot hunk of tungsten where the spare tire should have been to get that balance . . . ; -)

[Big Red One]

Originally Posted by Brookside

Deutsch, your post started me wondering...exactly which engine is the 2.8...it's the N52....but which N52? I believe there's some variations within the designation.

My understanding is that it will be the N52B30 that is in the 328i. It's actually a 3.0L engine (the N52B25 is a 2.5L). The engine makes 230 hp in the 328i application, and I assume it will be the same in the 128i.

[dmboone25]

As long as it passes the "in person" test. I will get the 135i for sure...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Brookside

Deutsch, your post started me wondering...exactly which engine is the 2.8...it's the N52....but which N52? I believe there's some variations within the designation.
(if I'm reading this one entry correctly on the web, there are 2 N52 engines)
If one of you guys knows exactly perhaps what would really be helpful is a side-by-side graph with specs.

The other thing is...the twin-turbo definitely is going to be the burner, but it's a heavy engine in a small car, so....which is going to handle better?

How about fuel efficiency between the two?...surely that will sway some opinions- at least provide some food for thought.
I think there's more to consider here... more factors than what I had first thought.
There may very well be a very good arguement for the superiority of the 2.8 over the 3.5!

Brookside, this might be what you are looking for....

[amdmaxx]

135 silver or 123d if it ever shows up in USA..

[xl5]

135i white with lemon interior...or whatever color I can get!

[Brookside]

3Prices (German market - incl 19% VAT):
120d: €28,750 (eg. 120d 3dr: €26,800)
123d: €32,500
135i : €38,950 (eg. 130i 3dr: €35,300 - incl M-package)



Exterior Colors:
Black
Crimson Red (from 12/07)
Alpine White (from 12/07)

Sedona Red (New! 1er coupe exclusive)
Sapphire Black metallic
Titanium Silver metallic
Montego Blue metallic
Sparkling Graphite metallic
Tahiti Green metallic (New! from 12/07)
Crystal Blue metallic (New! from 12/07)
Monaco Blue metallic (from 12/07)
Kashmir Silver metallic (New! 1er coupe exclusive from 12/07)
Le Mans Blue metallic (only available with 337 M-Sport package)



Interior trims:

Light Titanium (Standard 120d, 123d)
Brushed Aluminium (Standard 135i)
Black Gloss
Kashmir Silver
Nut Wood Light
Poplar Wood Gray



Upholstery:
Cloth ‚Elektra’; Anthracite (Standard 120d) - not avail. with Sports seats
Cloth ‚Network’ ; Anthracite or Monaco Blue (Standard 123d, 135i)
Cloth + Leather ‚Pearlpoint’ ; Anthracite + Orange or Beige - only available with Sports seats
Leather ‚Boston’ ; Black or Alaska Grey or Beige or Terra or Lemon or Coral Red



Wheels:
7J x 16 Double-Spoke Style 222; 205/55 R16 (Standard 120d)
7J x 17 V-Spoke Style 141; 205/50 R17 (Standard 123d)
7J x 17 Star-Spoke Style 256; 205/50 R17
7/7,5 J x 17 Star-Spoke Style 142; 205/50 R17 front, 225/45 R17 rear
7/7,5 J x 17 Star_Spoke Style 262; 205/50 R17 front, 225/45 R17 rear
7,5/8,5 J x 18 W-Spoke Style 263: 215/40 R18 front, 245/35 R18 rear
7,5/8,5 J x 18 Star-Spoke Style 264; 215/40 R18 front, 245/35 R18 rear (Standard 135i)

M-Sport package Wheels:
Double-Spoke Style 207 M; 205/50 R17 front, 225/45 R17 rear
Double-Spoke Style 261 M (2MR); 215/40 R18 front, 245/35 R18 rear



Interesting features:
M-sport package comes without fog lights!
123d & 135i include Electronic Differential Lock function in DSC-off mode
only 120d & 123d (not 135i) come with Automatic Start&Stop function (only avail with manual gearbox)
all three models come with 6-speed manual gearbox standard & Braking Energy Regeneraton & Active Aerodynamics & Optimal Gear Display & Servotronic steering
6-speed automatic available from 03/08


posted by EniLab 5:40pm cst/GCZ.
As some of you know I've pm'd Eni a couple times asking him to post here.
He always is very pleasant but so far has asked that we transpose his GCZ posts when they are applicable and newsworthy.

[EdgyE36]

Great forum, just found it. Been looking forward to hearing what BMW would do with the 1 here in NA for a long time.

Only car that could temp me from my E36 M3. Will probably wait a bit, let the initial wave of over MSRP sales happen, see if they will come out with a full M1.

But VERY interesting...

[emm3tt]

I lust for a 135i but it's going to depend on price. If it creeps deep into the mid 30s I don't see myself springing for one. It would be nice to have a 123d to choose from as well.

[rimmer]

i'm gunna wait for the 123d!! 204bhp Diesel? Yes Please!!!

[imported_tdc]

Going to get a 135i in the same exact colors as my current car - AW/EBD.

[Deutsch]

Originally Posted by rimmer

i'm gunna wait for the 123d!! 204bhp Diesel? Yes Please!!!

Lucky Europeans!!! I wish we got that engine over here, or something like it... one day maybe.. in the distant future.

[kere]

I was planning to buy a black 123d but I guess I'll have to go for a 120d since the 123d costs 6ke more than the 3dr 120d in Germany and will likely cost 10k more in here Finland. Also I think I'll go for a red one (btw what is the red color of the undisguised coupe called?)

[Dinos120ci]

An Alpine White BMW 120ci (4 cylinder, 170bhp) with black leather/orange cloth and brushed aluminium trim interior and M-Pack for me, when it arrives in Europe. Just because the 135i will proximately cost around 53000 Euros in Greece!:frown:

[EniLab]

123d in Kashmir Silver, with M-Sport body kit (but without M-Sport suspension).

:biggrin:

[GrFa]

I just want something that will replace all of my dearly departed e36 M3s. Depending on how much a 128i weighs, it may be the closest in terms of power to weight than the 135i. Also, I have driven of few of the turbo engines and I do not like the lag (some people say it doesn't exist, but I can feel it especially after NA and supercharged cars).

I also think that the 135i may be taking it a bit too far, ala M6. Driven the new M6? It is not any fun unless you are winding it out which quickly gets you into less than legal territory. I will definitely test drive them both, and I would prefer an M packed 128i. Actually, I think there was no reason to go with a 135i in the first place. I would have liked to see the entry level 1 be a 180hp or so 4 cylinder with the 128i as the top. I really miss my 240hp e36 M3s.

In any case, I will be holding onto my 323 convertible until next spring in preparation for the 1. Hopefully that will put me into prime convertible selling season and the 1 intro.

[Mike0105]

It's really price dependant for me. If I can get a 135 at a reasonable price then I will likely go that route provided the N54 has had its issues worked out by next Summer. I plan on doing euro delivery and I can swing a 135 if it starts around 33. I don't plan on adding many options, metallic paint, logic 7 and the cold weather package more then likely since the car already comes with the sport pack. A 128 will be plenty fast for me though and if it is a lot more affordable with the M sport pack and the above options I'd go that route instead.

I'd rather drive a slow car fast then a fast car slow =)
Mike

[Brookside]

Originally Posted by RUKnight

It's really price dependant for me. If I can get a 135 at a reasonable price then I will likely go that route provided the N54 has had its issues worked out by next Summer. I plan on doing euro delivery and I can swing a 135 if it starts around 33. I don't plan on adding many options, metallic paint, logic 7 and the cold weather package more then likely since the car already comes with the sport pack. A 128 will be plenty fast for me though and if it is a lot more affordable with the M sport pack and the above options I'd go that route instead.

I'd rather drive a slow car fast then a fast car slow =)
Mike

I'm beginning to come around to reality and realize that the 135 is probably going to msrp 33-35k with 35, I think, being closer to the price we'll see.
If that's the case, and depending on the deals being on offer at the stealership, getting into a 128 is beginning to seem the likely choice for me.