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      01-27-2018, 05:35 PM   #1
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Abort them all!!

So okay, maybe not.


Lets try something different and lets be reasonable!

In my view, birth control sometimes fails and before the week 12, you should be allowed to have an abortion for social reasons. On the second trimester horrible birth defects are easier to spot, so then the prognosis should be the guide. After that, up to 18 weeks is basically to save the mother in my view.

easy access to birth control, educating kids and knowing their friends are the only ways to go.

Lets talk about abortions.
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Easy access to birth control and education has been the best thing for reducing abortions, yet some pro-lifers seem to be against that which makes no sense. PPH also helps reduce the number, too.
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Easy access to birth control and education has been the best thing for reducing abortions, yet some pro-lifers seem to be against that which makes no sense. PPH also helps reduce the number, too.
Yes.

An abortion is always seen as a sin where as having sex is just something you do.

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Let's ratchet this conversation up a notch: are pregnancy tests a form of birth control?
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Let's ratchet this conversation up a notch: are pregnancy tests a form of birth control?
Yes, if you believe miscarriages should be investigated as involuntary manslaughter.
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Yes, if you believe miscarriages should be investigated as involuntary manslaughter.
I help with pregnancy (and miscarriage) daily and of course I don't think that. But I've watched some people go really red in the face trying to say those tests are just another form of murder.
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I help with pregnancy (and miscarriage) daily and of course I don't think that. But I've watched some people go really red in the face trying to say those tests are just another form of murder.
I hope you took my post in the very facetious way that I intended.
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I did, just figured I'd need the disclaimer eventually.
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Let's ratchet this conversation up a notch: are pregnancy tests a form of birth control?
I don't know, when i did my first one ever I was on week 11, and I had been puking my guts out for 8 weeks before that but since I didn't even dare to hope I could have a kid, I cried like a baby while my bestie ran to a pharmacy and he had to read me the instructions five times before I accepted the result (then he had to go buy 10 more tests before I stopped crying).

After a week a doctor told me and my husband we were expecting and I was ill at all times for a reason. After the baby was born, it took me a week to actually understand I was lucky enough to be a mom.
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I help with pregnancy (and miscarriage) daily and of course I don't think that. But I've watched some people go really red in the face trying to say those tests are just another form of murder.
Really?

As an European, I ask this sincerely.

I was told at the mature age of 23 that I'd better hurry the fuck up if I wanted to have kids. We got married so that we would have a the case to for infertility treatments as early as possible and/ or the paper trail to adopt too.
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1. Studies have shown that some level of life lasting depression hits a majority of women who in their lifetime abort their child. One could imagine that a woman's soul must take some damage for “voluntarily” ending a life.

2. As a male its my belief that if birth defects are detected that the option to abort should be allowable. Other than physiological issues which can put the life of child or mother in jepordy i would not condone the practice.

3. Lastly and most importantly... As a male i dont think i have any right to an opinion as the issue deals with a woman and her own body.

4. And no i dont know Alex Jones’s opinion on it. I don't really watch his vids. I just post them.
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I don't know, when i did my first one ever I was on week 11, and I had been puking my guts out for 8 weeks before that but since I didn't even dare to hope I could have a kid, I cried like a baby while my bestie ran to a pharmacy and he had to read me the instructions five times before I accepted the result (then he had to go buy 10 more tests before I stopped crying).

After a week a doctor told me and my husband we were expecting and I was ill at all times for a reason. After the baby was born, it took me a see to actually understand I was lucky enough to be a mom.
This is an awesome story and IMO why these tests are a blessing and not a curse.

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Really?

As an European, I ask this sincerely.

I was told at the mature age of 23 that I'd better hurry the fuck up if I wanted to have kids. We got married so that we would have a the case to for infertility treatments as early as possible and/ or the paper trail to adopt too.
I see pregnancies where mom is 50 and dad is 65... it can happen. But after 35 the risk of birth defects goes through the roof.

Edit: It tends to be the "natural family planning" people who refuse the tests. To them anything beyond the baby bump goes against God and as far as they're concerned it's not official until the kid pops out.
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As long as a bunch of old white men get to make the decisions about what a woman does with her body then I'm good.

I especially think that Christians and Catholics have time and time again proven to be the true moral compass of us all. Simply put they konw best.

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This is an awesome story and IMO why these tests are a blessing and not a curse.

I see pregnancies where mom is 50 and dad is 65... it can happen. But after 35 the risk of birth defects goes through the roof.

Edit: It tends to be the "natural family planning" people who refuse the tests. To them anything beyond the baby bump goes against God and as far as they're concerned it's not official until the kid pops out.
In a way, I got extremely lucky in life. My cousin started to have weird symptoms when she was 25, at the ripe age of 33 she had gone through all options to have a baby and they were told that seven years of treatments was enough. When my system started to act up, my boyfriend and I decided that we would not wait a second to see how it would go, we would be doing our best (my cousin's diagnosis was told to me a month earlier).

Yeah, your experiences are different than mine for sure but that's just so fucking weird to hear. It's pretty funny that someone would find a test so offensive when my experience was so different (and my bestie still makes fun of me for it. I think there is a mild chance that the ten extra tests were a mild over do).
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Mandatory implantable birth control for all. You can have it removed for purposed of procreation only after you:

1) Pass an intelligence test
2) Demonstrate financial stability
3) Put forth a parenting plan that shows your ability to raise and care for that baby
4) Prove you have no more than 1 other child already
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1. Studies have shown that some level of life lasting depression hits a majority of women who in their lifetime abort their child. One could imagine that a woman's soul must take some damage for “voluntarily” ending a life.

2. As a male its my belief that if birth defects are detected that the option to abort should be allowable. Other than physiological issues which can put the life of child or mother in jepordy i would not condone the practice.

3. Lastly and most importantly... As a male i dont think i have any right to an opinion as the issue deals with a woman and her own body.

4. And no i dont know Alex Jones’s opinion on it. I don't really watch his vids. I just post them.
Abortion is not something any woman wants to have. The depression is real and I don't know a person who has had one who doesn't struggle with it. This is an epic reason to protect our girls by giving them access to birth control and knowledge to only have sex with double protection.

My eldest son has microtia. His scans were normal during the whole pregnancy and Finland is not exactly a third world country in those. The kid drives me nuts daily and he is extremely good at annoying me and I live every second of him to bits. Considering what all could've been on our way with his condition I'm thankful I didn't know. I don't sleep for a month when he has his doctors appointments even now, seven years later, when he has a cold I go nuts since every time i close my eyes i remember the times when a doctor scanned his he's to see if his brains were okay, or the times his heart was studied again, again, and again and when his kidneys and liver were looked up...

My son was in ultrasounds a normal boy, he is an extraordinary boy and i consider selling him daily to the Hughes bidder but a part of me clearly likes the sharks vs Statham conversations.

Men has a right to comment and to have an opinion in this, but if you're pro abortions you need to welcome the mental health costs, if you're against abortions, you need to be willing to pay halfsie for the healthcare cost that a double birth control inflicts .

A good post. Edit aj out of this tho since in his view birth control makes women ugly probably (or was that bb...)
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As long as a bunch of old white men get to make the decisions about what a woman does with her body then I'm good.

I especially think that Christians and Catholics have time and time again proven to be the true moral compass of us all. Simply put they konw best.

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Oh for fucks sake, I'm already a Bp member. Isn't that hell enough?!

Hey, a man is the head of the family. Dads gets a say how his teenagers handles the aftermath of sliding just a to in goes!

Well, if the grandpa is white. All other skin colors should consult the closest white grandpa.
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