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View Poll Results: How would you vote if Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh were somehow proven true?
Yes 12 24.00%
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      10-03-2018, 08:43 AM   #1
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Poll On Kavanaugh Allegations If Somehow Were Proven To Be True How Would You Vote?

This is an anonymous poll so you can vote with you true feelings. Even if somehow the sexual assault allegations are proven to be true would you vote to confirm him still. A simple yes or no.
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      10-03-2018, 08:51 AM   #2
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Voted NO as I believe ALL should not because of what he did (one can contend he was a teenager, and so was she, so he made a mistake but is not a sex predator, etc) but because he'd then have lied about it. And that is not only wrong, but also a crime.

For that reason, it's a hard No.
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      10-03-2018, 08:51 AM   #3
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i mean, isnt this a pretty obvious poll?

if he did it, he did it and would have to pull himself from the nomination
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Voted NO as I believe ALL should not because of what he did (one can contend he was a teenager, and so was she, so he made a mistake but is not a sex predator, etc) but because he'd then have lied about it. And that is not only wrong, but also a crime.

For that reason, it's a hard No.
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i mean, isnt this a pretty obvious poll?

if he did it, he did it and would have to pull himself from the nomination
Agreed, but sadly no, I don't think it is that obvious otherwise I wouldn't have posted the poll. I made it anonymous in the hopes people would vote honestly.

There are people saying even if he did it, it was just a drunken mistake and shouldn't affect his confirmation to the SC.
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      10-03-2018, 08:54 AM   #5
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Voted NO as I believe ALL should not because of what he did (one can contend he was a teenager, and so was she, so he made a mistake but is not a sex predator, etc) but because he'd then have lied about it. And that is not only wrong, but also a crime.

For that reason, it's a hard No.
This.
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      10-03-2018, 08:58 AM   #6
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FYI, apparently it isn't a completely anonymous poll. It comes up in my notifications that a person voted, but not how they voted.

I thought I would throw that out there for fairness/transparency sake.
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I'd also say that if she is found to be lying/falsely accusing that she should be harshly punished.
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Whoops - I misread the poll - I would vote no because he would have been lying.

I agree with CT - that if she's found to be lying, she should be prosecuted. I would also add that she has already been lying about a lot (not being able to fly, yet did her graduate work in Hawaii, put a second front door in her house for AirBnb, not because of fear, constantly changing her story, etc.) - I wonder if K could sue her in civil court?
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Finally a political thread that i agree with.

As others have said. It's ok to be wild in your teens but not to lie about it and mislead the people - thats unacceptable especially for a judge.

Also any sexual assault at ANY age, if proven is a big no-no too.
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      10-03-2018, 09:16 AM   #10
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NO.

But with what I have seen so far, Yes.
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100% no so far...

Maybe you should retract your assertion on the BK thread...
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I'd also say that if she is found to be lying/falsely accusing that she should be harshly punished.
Yes, but demonstrating that this was intentionally done out of malice, not simply a case of unclear recollection would be an EXCEEDINGLY high bar to meet.

In other words - never going to happen.
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Does the FBI have the power to violate the Dr/patient privilege and get session notes?
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I am not exactly sure what she is claiming or what Criminal Sexual assault is being bantered about this week but if they can prove definitively he intentionally lied (not under played his drinking, bla bla bla) during the hearing he should not only be denied this appointment but be bared from practicing law indefinitely and face criminal charges as should she if it goes that way for her.
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100% no so far...

Maybe you should retract your assertion on the BK thread...
While this is helping restore some of my faith in humanity, unfortunately from what I’m reading and comments elsewhere I’ll wait for it to play out as they say.
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NO.

But with what I have seen so far, Yes.
Sexual assault allegations aside, I’m a no based on his own actions (and a few other things) in the hearing. But thanks for the vote/comment.

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Does the FBI have the power to violate the Dr/patient privilege and get session notes?
I would think so, but I would also hope she would freely release the ones having to do with the allegations to help prove said allegations etc.
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Does the FBI have the power to violate the Dr/patient privilege and get session notes?
In this scenario, I doubt it. I don't believe they have any sort of subpoena power in this particular "investigation".
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I am not exactly sure what she is claiming or what Criminal Sexual assault is being bantered about this week but if they can prove definitively he intentionally lied (not under played his drinking, bla bla bla) during the hearing he should not only be denied this appointment but be bared from practicing law indefinitely and face criminal charges as should she if it goes that way for her.
Completely disagree with this
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Sexual assault allegations aside, Iím a no based on his own actions (and a few other things) in the hearing. But thanks for the vote/comment...
He 100% lost me with his opening tirade claiming the allegations against him were "on behalf of the Clintons" or something to that effect.

Plus I'm convinced he's lying about his drinking and sexual past. Good thing for him - I don't get a vote.
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Completely disagree with this
You "completely disagree" that he, or she, should be punished if they lied under oath during their Congressional testimony???

Why?
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Sexual assault allegations aside, I’m a no based on his own actions (and a few other things) in the hearing. But thanks for the vote/comment...
He 100% lost me with his opening tirade claiming the allegations against him were "on behalf of the Clintons" or something to that effect.

Plus I'm convinced he's lying about his drinking and sexual past. Good thing for him - I don't get a vote.
Just as reflection: he was trying to show what that was really all about: a political circus.

And his view was promptly corroborated by the Hawaiian senator (forgot her name) who immediately started talking about Trump and "kids separated at the border".

So, he's not wrong... you may not like the fact that, in your view, "he's trying to make it political", but I believe he's not the only making it "overly" political, it's the Dems. I say overly because the position is political in nature; some people here don't seem to understand that, and claim he's a "judge", and his position should be purely technical. It's not. It's also a political position, and he has to play the politics whether we like it or not. I'd want it not to be political as well...
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He 100% lost me with his opening tirade claiming the allegations against him were "on behalf of the Clintons" or something to that effect.

Plus I'm convinced he's lying about his drinking and sexual past. Good thing for him - I don't get a vote.
Agreed, when he took the Trump/Hillary and many other politician way out and started blaming this on a conspiracy. That almost always makes me think they are hiding something. And yah he is full of crap/outright lying IMO with a lot of his answers about drinking and things in his yearbook etc.

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