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      10-21-2008, 03:56 PM   #1
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So, what DOES the VP do?



Apparently VP is now in *charge* of US Senate. Yep.
Perhaps she needs to re-read the Constitution of the United States?

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Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … They’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
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WHAT? I love this women. She has single handedly done more for Obama than Obama. Thank goodness she will never have to read a job discripetion.
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If I were VP...I would & & & &

'cause really...what does the VP really do...break an occassion tie in the senate...not in this senate with a filabuster proof majority...
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If I were VP...I would & & & &

'cause really...what does the VP really do...break an occassion tie in the senate...not in this senate with a filabuster proof majority...
That settles it. You should be the next V.P. Now only one more test. Can you see Russia from your house.
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That settles it. You should be the next V.P. Now only one more test. Can you see Russia from your house.

Thank you, thank you very much...

I cannot see Russia...but I refer to Ukraine as "Ukraine" and not "THE Ukraine"

We don't say "the Russia" or "the Iran"...but for some reason...we never just say "Ukraine"
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Thank you, thank you very much...

I cannot see Russia...but I refer to Ukraine as "Ukraine" and not "THE Ukraine"

We don't say "the Russia" or "the Iran"...but for some reason...we never just say "Ukraine"
i dont get it.

are you voting for the palin or not??
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Thank you, thank you very much...

I cannot see Russia...but I refer to Ukraine as "Ukraine" and not "THE Ukraine"

We don't say "the Russia" or "the Iran"...but for some reason...we never just say "Ukraine"
I love you McCain does that shit too...
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Thank you, thank you very much...

I cannot see Russia...but I refer to Ukraine as "Ukraine" and not "THE Ukraine"

We don't say "the Russia" or "the Iran"...but for some reason...we never just say "Ukraine"
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/ukraine.html
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If I were VP...I would & & & &
In that order? LOL
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'cause really...what does the VP really do...break an occassion tie in the senate...not in this senate with a filabuster proof majority...
Well in the case of Bush Cheney, I think the VP is the one running the country.....
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I cannot get over how she makes Quayle seem brilliant.
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I cannot get over how she makes Quayle seem brilliant.
That might be a stretch.....no, no it isn't
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So, she STILL doesn't know ...

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Thank you, thank you very much...

I cannot see Russia...but I refer to Ukraine as "Ukraine" and not "THE Ukraine"

We don't say "the Russia" or "the Iran"...but for some reason...we never just say "Ukraine"
I wonder if that is just left over from refering to it as "THE Former Soviet Republic Ukraine? I know alot of Ukrainians that say 'I am from The Ukraine'. Often times names have a geographical/regional meaning, like The South.
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According to some nationalist Russians the word "ukraine" means "by-the-edges, or that which lies next to the edges", and therefore they apply different grammar to the word than they do to other countries. As for Ukrainians that say "the Ukraine", I think it's just bad grammar which is not very hard to pick up locally in the United States.
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According to some nationalist Russians the word "ukraine" means "by-the-edges, or that which lies next to the edges", and therefore they apply different grammar to the word than they do to other countries. As for Ukrainians that say "the Ukraine", I think it's just bad grammar which is not very hard to pick up locally in the United States.
According to some "nationalist Russians"? What is that supposed to mean? The word means what it means. In Serbia we have a very similar word that means 'at the end of'.
I'm sticking to my thoery, after refering to it as The Ukrainian SSR(Soviet Socialist Republic) for so many years, when the SSR portion was dropped, people continued to refer to it as 'The Ukraine.'
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Palin says Obama's policies could lead to crises

By SANDRA CHEREB – 1 hour ago

RENO, Nev. (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Tuesday that Democrat Barack Obama's own foreign policy proposals could create crises that would test him as president.

The Alaska governor raised the idea of a "looming crisis" in response to Democratic rival Joe Biden's remark at weekend fundraisers that Obama would face a "generated crisis" within six months of becoming president because he would be tested by adversaries of the U.S. On the campaign trail, Republican presidential candidate John McCain also was using Biden's remarks to question Obama's readiness.

"I guess we gotta say, 'Well, thanks for the warning, Joe,'" Palin said to cheers from about 2,500 supporters at the Reno-Sparks Convention Center. "But I guess the looming crisis ... is Joe Biden's next speaking engagement."

In Palin's view, the potential crises would be sparked by Obama's own actions. Playing off the Republican ticket's previous criticisms of the Democratic nominee, she criticized Obama for:

_Advancing the idea of invading Pakistan without that government's permission. Obama has said he would authorize an attack if the whereabouts of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden were known and Pakistan's government were unable or unwilling to go after him.

Palin's criticism, however, comes as the Bush administration has authorized attacks on al-Qaida targets within Pakistan, sparking criticism at times from Pakistan's government. McCain, for his part, has said he would pursue bin Laden "to the gates of hell."

_Advocating sitting down with "the world's worst dictators" without preconditions. Palin noted that Obama has said he would meet with the Iranian regime even though it has threatened Israel with destruction. For his part, Obama has contended that the U.S. should not be afraid to meet with its adversaries.

_Opposing the troop surge in Iraq and voting to cut funding to troops, which Palin said left those in Iraq at grave risk. Obama's lone vote against a funding measure came because the bill did not include a timetable for withdrawal of troops; he followed with a vote for funding and has supported every other funding measure.

_Offering a weak response to Russia's invasion of Georgia, which Palin said would encourage Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to invade the Ukraine. In August, when the two sides were fighting, Obama condemned Russia's action and called for diplomacy and restraint by both countries.
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I wonder if that is just left over from refering to it as "THE Former Soviet Republic Ukraine? I know alot of Ukrainians that say 'I am from The Ukraine'. Often times names have a geographical/regional meaning, like The South.
I am fairly certain that most Americans are not this informed. In fact, I believe that most Americans are not aware of the exisitence of the breakaway republics that emerged in the post-communist era.

The American venacular was to call it "USSR" or "The Soviet Union" or "The Evil Empire"

My only point is....I WANT TO BE VP......I am more qualified
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I wonder if that is just left over from refering to it as "THE Former Soviet Republic Ukraine? I know alot of Ukrainians that say 'I am from The Ukraine'. Often times names have a geographical/regional meaning, like The South.
Let's try this one more time. See post #8 above. From http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/ukraine.html:
"Some country names are preceded by an article—like “The United States” and “La France”—but most are not. Sometimes it depends on what language you are speaking: in English we call the latter country simply “France” and “La República Argentina” is just “Argentina” although in the nineteenth century the British often referred to it as “The Argentine.” When the region formerly known as “The Ukraine” split off from the old Soviet Union, it declared its preference for dropping the article, and the country is now properly called simply “Ukraine.” "
Is that too difficult?
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According to some "nationalist Russians"? What is that supposed to mean? The word means what it means. In Serbia we have a very similar word that means 'at the end of'.
I'm sticking to my thoery, after refering to it as The Ukrainian SSR(Soviet Socialist Republic) for so many years, when the SSR portion was dropped, people continued to refer to it as 'The Ukraine.'
My point was that analyzing what the word means is irrelavant. Before it became a country,reference could have been to the region. Now, since it is a country, Ukraine is the official name, so normal grammar applies.
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