automatic 1M

[blueshark]

Want to know why the 1M is only offered with a manual transmission? Ask the M boss, Dr. Segler:

http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/03/08/ex...re-of-m-brand/

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by BMW86

An Automatic 1M? Just look for a used N54 135i steptronic and add in the M3 suspension, LSD and better tyres and you're good to go mate. May as well throw in a tune whilst your at it and you've got yourself a 1M

Or Z4 sdrive 35is.

[superchargedman]

Or, you could use a search button and notice that this topic has been rehashed and well discussed in the past.

Originally Posted by danizzz

If it's killing you....simple....... don't read it!!! lol

[blueshark]

Originally Posted by superchargedman

Or, you could use a search button and notice that this topic has been rehashed and well discussed in the past.

+1

[Jblack4083]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

When you look at the 1M and it's unique skunkworks development and especially the engine. The car is handicapped because of the M3 and the desire to not let the car get within the distance of the M3 is evident.
Afterall they do not want to kill the golden goose (yet).

From the informant himself!

[Beemer323]

Originally Posted by HERR FSTIR

Asking about availability of DCT at this point is an irritating faux paux.

Hoping for a slush box in the 1M is blasphemy!

Tell me how a paraplegic can drive a manual and I will validate your point...

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

Or Z4 sdrive 35is.

Or a 335is...

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by BBK

Well yes... one of the reasons. They gave it a only slight bump in power so it wasn't faster. Obviously, putting suspension bits and diff was the cheapest way to make it 'slightly slower' than the M3.

If that's the case then why have they essentially ordained the 1M as current successor to the original M3, placing it in alongside the original?

Does anyone make these ridiculous statements about the M5 or M6 vs the M3? Clearly the m5/m6 are the more expensive vehicles. I guess they forgot to dumb the m3 down enough because it's faster than the m5.

[gazz]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I guess they forgot to dumb the m3 down enough because it's faster than the m5.

That's a good point too.

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Does anyone make these ridiculous statements about the M5 or M6 vs the M3? Clearly the m5/m6 are the more expensive vehicles. I guess they forgot to dumb the m3 down enough because it's faster than the m5.

Got a point there, but I still feel that the "target audience" gap between an M5 and M3 is much bigger than between M3 and 1M.
M5 owners, not the ones putting videos on youtube but the majority who buy M5 just because they can afford it, care less there's another M that's as fast as their M5, for less money: the M3.
Why? Because they drive a "big fat M5 : respect!" as quoted from Vicky from 5th gear.

M3 owners are in more for the speed/performance, than for the status/show.
Their ego hurts more if baby M would be as fast.

My 2 cents

[gazz]

That's a good point three.

[Future M1 owner]

I'd like to see the new high boost 3l TT diesel from the X6XDrive40 in a 1 series, 306PS and 600NM.
That would beat the 1M, M3, M5 and M6 to 60.....

Oh no, but we can't have that can we.....

[Jblack4083]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

Got a point there, but I still feel that the "target audience" gap between an M5 and M3 is much bigger than between M3 and 1M.
M5 owners, not the ones putting videos on youtube but the majority who buy M5 just because they can afford it, care less there's another M that's as fast as their M5, for less money: the M3.
Why? Because they drive a "big fat M5 : respect!" as quoted from Vicky from 5th gear.

M3 owners are in more for the speed/performance, than for the status/show.
Their ego hurts more if baby M would be as fast.

My 2 cents

This. I feel like the lines between M3 and M5 drivers dont blend as much as the lines between 1M and M3 drivers. The M5 is also a car that moves into a different size class being that it is much bigger.

[Robert]

Also keep in mind that M3 and M5 owners are more likely to have a deeper pocket, translating to high revenue for BMW. There's no way BMW will be willing to jeopardize a good thing it has going.

[///M1]

Originally Posted by Jblack4083

This. I feel like the lines between M3 and M5 drivers dont blend as much as the lines between 1M and M3 drivers. The M5 is also a car that moves into a different size class being that it is much bigger.

+1000

Having been an M5 owner with a gazzilion posts on the various M5 boards, I can attest to this. The average M5 owner/buyer does not particularly care if the M3 will outpace the M5 as much as he cares if the RS6 or E-klass AMG will do so. You are dealing with a totally different demographic in terms of age, income bracket, family priorities, perception of needs (e.g. plushness and luxury vs. strippedd down raw to the bone experience), etc. etc. FWIW I can tell you that there are not gonna be many exisiting or ex- M5 owners that are gonna jump on the 1 ///M. But the buyer group of the 1 ///M and M3 is indeed very similar, and the lines are very much blended. Hence why you have all this 'polarity' (a polite world for trolling).

[E821M]

I believe when all is said and done that this little 1M may just give its big brother a run for its money.

[Grey Dove]

Originally Posted by rps1m

I believe when all is said and done that this little 1M may just give its big brother a run for its money.

+1

[1Mer]

BMW normally quote a 50-75mph time in 4th gear on their web-sites. Somehow that box has been left blank on the 1M. Maybe they didn't have enough spare time on the rushed development program to time it - or maybe, it's quicker then the M3

[///M1]

Originally Posted by 1Mer

BMW normally quote a 50-75mph time in 4th gear on their web-sites. Somehow that box has been left blank on the 1M. Maybe they didn't have enough spare time on the rushed development program to time it - or maybe, it's quicker then the M3

Could very well be, at that speed/RPM, it is all about TQ, which the 1 ///M has a 75 lbs advantage (counting the overboost that will kick in)