Finally a widebody kit!

[WAY]

Let me just clarify what Fred and I are saying. For the production units that we will be buying, the side skirt will be molded to match the rest of the flared arch. However it will be a Tii side skirt design. The photos above is without said sideskirt but that will be part of what Evolution Racewerks will be selling.

Oh, and it is US dollars because the vendor is local to most of you.

[ki__]

if it the side skirts flush..im in

[Evolution Racewerks]

The side skirt in the picture is the factory side skirt. We have not made the side skirt yet.

So to clarify the situation so everyone understands. We originally was not going to go into mass production on the front end wide body until later in the year. Therefore, the only priority we had with the front end wide body was to get it to "work" so we can go racing. That is why the side skirts aren't done yet as they weren't necessary to run the bigger wheels. We made some mud flaps and called it a day.

I have been given a small budget for R&D for this first quarter of the year and I have allocated all of my budget to our "super secret project" that will be completed in late April (this is why I have been MIA from the forums). The plan was to go into production on the front end wide body after the completion and release of the "super secret project". Now WAY is a very impatient man hehe. He wants our wide body ASAP and has been pushing me hard to get this kit finished and into mass production. Now at the current moment that is difficult for me to do since I have no budget left. To make sure fitment is great, we need to build compression molds which are very expensive. However the end product will be top notch.

So, it comes down to this. We're putting out a feeler on the front end wide body. If I can show upper management that there is enough interest in our front wide body kit, I will be able to get additional funding to push this project through. For those who are really interested and willing to make the commitment, I'm offering a one time special pricing which WAY has listed in the beginning. With enough preorders and additional company funding, there is no problem funding the project.

Now as for the timeline of production. I will start building the skeleton for the front bumper next week. The skeleton will hold the bumper in the correct orientation with the body of the car so that when it goes into the mold, it will sit in the exact same orientation as it did on the car. This will ensure the mounting points as well as the body lines match up. After that, we will make the mold for the front bumper. The side skirts will take about 3-4 days to get them perfectly molded. If we start now, I think we can finish everything by late April.

So, if you're really interested let me know so we can push this project through.

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Make the bottom side skirts match the buldge of the rest of the fenders, and Then I would be interested... it looks like the sideskirts are not designed for the fenders...

[WAY]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

Now WAY is a very impatient man hehe. He wants our wide body ASAP and has been pushing me hard to get this kit finished and into mass production.

Only impatient when I see something good out there and I want it! It's a big compliment to your product really!

[rcracer_tx]

Thanks for the quick explanation Fred. With My upcoming turbo upgrade project, I will probably have to wait awhile for enough money.

Any rough timeline for the rear widebody kit for the car? I should no longer be broke from my current project then

[Papethova]

So does this flare out the front beyond the rears? Youre running wider wheels on the front vs the rears?

Im interested but I think I'd want to flare out all four corners not just the fronts.

[Evolution Racewerks]

Wow, big project. Is it a secret or can I inquire about it. I have turbo upgrades already but they're not going on the car just yet. I foresee major hurdles in the fuel system to support it that I'd rather not deal with it at the moment.

No real timeframe on the rear widebody as it depends on when we need it. Right now we don't. We don't have major issues with rear traction. Only reason why we did the front is because we needed it and it has worked out great for us. The car handles unbelieveably. Take for example, our driver VJ Mirzayan was looking over the data at Buttonwillow raceway and was shocked that he was able to go a couple MPH faster in corners on our almost full weight car running street tires versus his Lotus Exige S (supercharged) running R-compounds. We don't run a LSD at the moment so with it, traction issues in the rear will be even less. Our rear tires are the same as the fronts and widening the rear will imply that we increase rear track. The benefits of increased traction I feel will not outweigh the increase in understeer. The car is perfectly balanced right now. Obviously, if the front end wide body sells well and there's a demand for the rear, it will get done ASAP.

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Thanks for the quick explanation Fred. With My upcoming turbo upgrade project, I will probably have to wait awhile for enough money.

Any rough timeline for the rear widebody kit for the car? I should no longer be broke from my current project then

[Evolution Racewerks]

Yes, the front end is wider than the rears. Because of this, the front track (how wide apart the front wheels are) is as well.

No, we're running the same size 18x10 Forgeline ZX3R rims front and rear. Same size 285/30/18 Yokohama Advan Neovas.

We did it for our racing program. It looks unorthodox but it works. It does look different and to some that actually might be appealing. In fact many who have seen it in person says it actually looks pretty cool this way. We didn't do it to win car shows. We did it to try to win races.

The rear section will be available too. Most likely later in the year after I've finished off some of the R&D projects I'm already doing. These R&D projects are power mods and with more power, we'll probably need to get the rears done.

Originally Posted by Papethova

So does this flare out the front beyond the rears? Youre running wider wheels on the front vs the rears?

Im interested but I think I'd want to flare out all four corners not just the fronts.

[twenzel]

Originally Posted by 993 911

And I assume this would allow the car to fit 8.5's in the front?

There are many of us running 8.5" wheels in the front already.

This looks like a pretty sweet setup. So you can run 18x10's all around then?

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

Wow, big project. Is it a secret or can I inquire about it. I have turbo upgrades already but they're not going on the car just yet. I foresee major hurdles in the fuel system to support it that I'd rather not deal with it at the moment.

It's not the secret... I will hopefully be done in the next couple months, and will be the third to do it. Down4it is the first person who is doing it, and should be done within the next couple weeks. Terry Burger at BMS will be doing the tuning.

Heres the thread: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2547

I am doing more so to keep the turbos in the efficiency range and be more reliable than to make more power, but being able to push 18-20psi is always a plus. Fueling will wait until we see what exactly the stock system can put out, and then it might be time for ASR upgraded fueling...

The price is very reasonable to at $1600 to upgrade the turbos, and then install. (which I am sure you know the tolerances are too tight, so you have to drop the motor)

[Berduderunner]

holy shit.

[Evolution Racewerks]

Yes, we run Forgeline ZX3R Comp 18x10's all around
Front +24
Rear +62

Originally Posted by twenzel

There are many of us running 8.5" wheels in the front already.

This looks like a pretty sweet setup. So you can run 18x10's all around then?

[Evolution Racewerks]

Interesting. I'll watch the thread for development. We have a 800 whp Supra in our class that is kicking our butts. Need more power...

Don't need to drop the motor. Just have to suspend the motor and drop the subframe. It's a lot of work though. I'd say about 8-12 hours depending on installers skill level.

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

It's not the secret... I will hopefully be done in the next couple months, and will be the third to do it. Down4it is the first person who is doing it, and should be done within the next couple weeks. Terry Burger at BMS will be doing the tuning.

Heres the thread: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2547

I am doing more so to keep the turbos in the efficiency range and be more reliable than to make more power, but being able to push 18-20psi is always a plus. Fueling will wait until we see what exactly the stock system can put out, and then it might be time for ASR upgraded fueling...

The price is very reasonable to at $1600 to upgrade the turbos, and then install. (which I am sure you know the tolerances are too tight, so you have to drop the motor)

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

Yes, we run Forgeline ZX3R Comp 18x10's all around
Front +24
Rear +62

On the front wheels, is their any stock car that has specs close to that in order to look up possible wheels?

[Evolution Racewerks]

Sorry, I'm not a wheel specialist so I have no idea. As you go wider in your wheel selection (like a 10" wheel), wheel manufacturers generally start to drop the offsets that are available so you'll generally start see offsets like +25, +28, +35 in stock. If not, the wheel would tuck in so much that it will not work with any car so I don't see a problem finding wheels to work. With the bigger fender, you'll probably have more options than to try to cram in 8.5" on a stock fender. I would imagine that you can find the offsets that will work from a high hp RWD car (use the rear wheels as the front).

There is a lot of room to play with if you run the fenders. Forgeline wheels are custom made wheels so we had to option of running any offset we chose. Therefore, the offset i chose put the inside of the new wheels where the OEM wheels used to sit. The extra width was then pushed outwards. You can push the inside of the wheel inwards a few millimeters if you chose to. That and if you run high camber, you can push the wheels outwards a little bit as well. This is assuming you run a 10" wheel with wide tires. If you run a skinnier tire like a 265 or even run a 9.5" wheels, you have even more room to play with.

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

On the front wheels, is their any stock car that has specs close to that in order to look up possible wheels?

[WAY]

I just heard from Fred that this kit will now likely see production! Woohoo!

[wu2x]

badass. Can't wait to see the full widebody conversion.

[amsfoto]

This looks so sick, I wish I had the money to spend...but I am picking up KWs

[Evolution Racewerks]

So here's a quick update:

Front bumper skeleton is built and the mold for the front bumper is currently being made.



Since the OEM front bumper is urethane, it will flex and twist. The skeleton is made from pickup points on the car so that when the bumper is mounted on the skeleton, it sits exactly how it does on the car. This way, the front bumper is sitting how it's suppose to be when the mold is made of it. This will ensure excellent fitment of the production piece.


We got the Tii side skirts that we will be using for the prototype. Thanks to Dan@UnitedBMW for helping us out!!! Also got the shadowline kidney grill from him. Great service!


Picture of the OEM side skirts off.


Tii side skirts on the car.

We're currently working on the side skirts. Should be done and painted next week. I'll post pics.

We should have the first prototype unit ready by the end of the month to show off at Bimmerfest on May 2nd.

[wu2x]

Sweet! Is your prototype also going to include the rear parts or is it just the front? Either way I can't wait to see the results.

[ptack]

I wish BMW had done this from the get go along with doing the rears. I think wider fenders would have improved the ovrall look of the car. It would have gone from eager-looking to ravenous.

[Evolution Racewerks]

At the current moment, it is just the front.

I also want to add. Since this is a front end wide body, it is 100% bolt on. No need to get it flushed into body. You can install it with just basic hand tools. The side skirts only take 10 minutes to install. Fenders about 30 minutes. Front bumper about 15 minutes. That and it is very easy to revert back to factory panels.

There rear quarter panel is spot welded to the chassis. A rear wide body would require a body shop to install (unless you can do body work).

On the side note of the rear wide body (full widebody kit), I just ordered a new rear bumper to use when we do it. If the front end sells well, we'll probably do the rears right away even if we don't need it for our race program. Personally though, I like the look of just the front end only.

Originally Posted by saikelol

Sweet! Is your prototype also going to include the rear parts or is it just the front? Either way I can't wait to see the results.